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What are the 4e fanboys saying now?

Started by 1989, January 21, 2011, 09:25:50 PM

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GoneForGood

#150
January 24, 2011, 05:16:35 AM
Quote from: StormBringer;434819I happen to know for a fact that uniform does not conform to UPS regulations for attire on the job.

;)

Here in the UK "on the job" serves as a suitable euphamism. This makes that outfit perfect "on the job" attire.

Imperator

#151
January 24, 2011, 05:23:06 AM
Quote from: Shazbot79;434469The only thing that could help 1989 with his feelings is a haliperidol big gulp.

Absolutely. The next is an sterling example.

Quote from: 1989;434752The problem with 4e is that it's a pile of shit -- a tactical boardgame of fantasy superheroes.

How to improve 4e? Throw it in the garbage and bring back AD&D.

If enough people voice their displeasure (and vote with their wallets), then we may eventually get a game that can meet the needs of many playstyles (as was the case with AD&D) instead of just one playstyle.

Dude, your threads are the saddest. And, by the way, not enough people is going to voice their displeasure because most people seems to be OK with 4e D&D or even with other different games than D&D, God forbid it.

4e is not my favourite edition (that would be RC), and it has things I dislike, but it has also some good ideas. We tried it, it was nice, maybe we will play a longer campaign some day. Right now, I'm running Cthulhu, and next Aquelarre.

This threads based oon uninformed wishful thinking and sad bile need to die.
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Reckall

#152
January 24, 2011, 05:24:12 AM Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 05:26:21 AM by Reckall
Quote from: Spinachcat;434713If I took Uwe Bol's next movie and switched out the credits with Lars von Shitty, there is no doubt the critics would swoon and exclaim breathlessly about the "daring" and the "brilliance" of the movie.

Maybe you are right: I see that happening with 4E, for example.
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#153
January 24, 2011, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: 1989;434752How to improve 4e? Throw it in the garbage and bring back AD&D.

If enough people voice their displeasure (and vote with their wallets), then we may eventually get a game that can meet the needs of many playstyles (as was the case with AD&D) instead of just one playstyle.

I know everyone else has already mocked this post, but this is only a slightly more extreme post of what I've seen a fair amount of people say online.

Look guys, it's not the 1980's anymore.  It's just not.  It's never going to be the 1980's again.  Ever.  It's been 30 years since 1980.

Those of us who were alive in the 80s had some fun then, but that time is over now.  Stop being the uncle from Napoleon Dynamite and figure out how you can enjoy the 2010's instead of obsessing about how much you loved 1987.  Seriously, I liked 1987 too, but its time to move on.

No matter what happens with 4e or WotC, I can guarantee one thing - the next edition is not going to look like 1980's AD&D.
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Seanchai

#154
January 24, 2011, 10:56:48 AM
Quote from: Shazbot79;434806It's actually random aspie basement cases like 1989 that get so emotionally invested in this stuff as to become incensed and actively antagonize fans of games that they don't themselves enjoy.

They're not random. It's the same folks, time and time again, saying the same tired, mindless thing again and again. You can, for example, almost count the seconds between the time I say something positive about 4e and jeff37923 pops up with his typical bullcrap.

But if you feel the RPGsite is the place to have a debate about 4e, I wish you the best. Please, do us the honor of kicking off the discussion.

(I'll just stand here with a stopwatch, timing how long it takes for the thread to be swamped to the point of uselessness in venom and crap.)

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jeff37923

#155
January 24, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Quote from: Seanchai;434857They're not random. It's the same folks, time and time again, saying the same tired, mindless thing again and again. You can, for example, almost count the seconds between the time I say something positive about 4e and jeff37923 pops up with his typical bullcrap.



(I'll just stand here with a stopwatch, timing how long it takes for the thread to be swamped to the point of uselessness in venom and crap.)

Seanchai

This made me smile.

Why? Because a while ago Seanchai made a big production about placing me on his Ignore List. Now if I am on his Ignore List, then how can he see my posts and then see out what they say?

Unless he lied about putting me on his Ignore List, because he finds my commentary rivetting and insightful. :D
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Shazbot79

#156
January 24, 2011, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;434876This made me smile.

Why? Because a while ago Seanchai made a big production about placing me on his Ignore List. Now if I am on his Ignore List, then how can he see my posts and then see out what they say?

Unless he lied about putting me on his Ignore List, because he finds my commentary rivetting and insightful. :D

I don't believe that anyone actually uses their ignore function...our egos won't permit it. Afterall, how are we supposed to find out how someone responded when we told them we were putting them on our ignore list?
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Peregrin

#157
January 24, 2011, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: Shazbot79;434878I don't believe that anyone actually uses their ignore function...our egos won't permit it. Afterall, how are we supposed to find out how someone responded when we told them we were putting them on our ignore list?

Ignore functions generally give you the option to view specific posts of a blocked person by clicking a button.
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#158
January 24, 2011, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Peregrin;434881Ignore functions generally give you the option to view specific posts of a blocked person by clicking a button.
That's it! Educate the forum noobs, now. :D

Seanchai

#159
January 24, 2011, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: Peregrin;434881Ignore functions generally give you the option to view specific posts of a blocked person by clicking a button.

And I believe you can see what they say when they're quoted. Don't they also indicate that a post is there, just don't show it to you?

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#160
January 24, 2011, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: Seanchai;434889And I believe you can see what they say when they're quoted. Don't they also indicate that a post is there, just don't show it to you?

Seanchai

So you do keep reading my posts even though you have me on your Ignore List. You are merely another one of the thousands of fans who just cannot get enough of me. I appreciate that, I really do. It is fans like yourself that make me want to keep posting my wisdom and brilliant commentary. Its all for the fans like Seanchai. :D
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crkrueger

#161
January 24, 2011, 03:43:23 PM
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Kinetic

#162
January 24, 2011, 05:42:02 PM Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 05:44:28 PM by Kinetic
Quote from: Drohem;434302My long time group of friend literally swore off any other RPG when 4e D&D was released, and literally threw away their old gaming books.  They've only played 4e D&D since its release.  I was interested to seeing their reaction to the Essentials line and changes, and so keep my opinion quiet and listened to them.  It turns out that they have unilaterally decide to stick with 4e D&D and shunned the new Essentials line.  I was kind surprised since I thought for sure that they had drank the "WotC Kool-Aid" (as it were) and would jump over to the Essential line without blinking.  All but one of them canceled their DDI subscription.

I honestly don't know anyone that has switched to Essentials from 4E here.  Doesn't seem like any of the local 4E players see any reason to make the change, which is kind of funny... It's the same thing that a lot of the 3x guys said to them when they jumped on 4E and now they're saying it about Essentials after berating the 3x people for not "moving forward".  I don't play D&D any more (in any version) but I am with the crowd that thinks Essentials is too little, too soon.

Spinachcat

#163
January 24, 2011, 06:04:19 PM
I see 4e players treating Essentials like the PHB 2.  It's just new classes to add to your existing game.  

In 2e speak, remember how the kit supplements didn't negate your PHB, nor were they required to continue playing 2e.  

4e GMs seem to prefer the Essentials monsters, but I am still getting plenty of punch from my MM1 and MM2.  For me, I dealt with the low damage issue by granting +1W to all monsters, granting 1 AP to elites and 2 AP to solos and that accomplished everything I needed.

I hope everyone who stuck with 3e is having a great time.  I'm just glad there are other RPG options for me and my players.

Abyssal Maw

#164
January 24, 2011, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;434937I see 4e players treating Essentials like the PHB 2.  It's just new classes to add to your existing game.  

In 2e speak, remember how the kit supplements didn't negate your PHB, nor were they required to continue playing 2e.  

4e GMs seem to prefer the Essentials monsters, but I am still getting plenty of punch from my MM1 and MM2.  For me, I dealt with the low damage issue by granting +1W to all monsters, granting 1 AP to elites and 2 AP to solos and that accomplished everything I needed.

I hope everyone who stuck with 3e is having a great time.  I'm just glad there are other RPG options for me and my players.

That's all I see it as. I just see it as more stuff. Andf I allow everything so it's all good.

I'm agnostic on monsters. I just use the online compendium and the monster builder to build stuff, so I usually never even think about whether a monster is from whatever book. It's just monsters. I do a lot of customization, but I don't mess with mechanics much.

ie- I just changed a bronze-warder into a police riot-squad robot for Gamma World. I changed a half-ogre knight into a Carrin Dark Emperor.
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