1st edition vs. 2nd edition

NYTFLYR · December 13, 2006, 11:24:19 AM

Quote from: GabrielObviously you've never encountered Mekton II, which was also much improved from it's predecessor.

If you consider the Marvel Super Heroes Advanced Set as the second edition of that game, then it joins the list of improved next editions.

That was something else that came to mind, the revised/updated versions in the 80s/mid 90s like Mekton II, Cyberpunk 2020, Chill, HERO, etc (again IMO) really were improvements. maybe its just that Im getting older and dont like change.

the comment on Warhammers magic was right on however, it is an improvement, we never had a problem with the naked dwarf issue however and played the same campaign for years. As for the sourcebooks, with the 1st edition you only needed one book, everything was included.

Caesar Slaad · December 13, 2006, 11:37:19 AM

Quote from: James McMurrayIt's also a matter of personal preference too. For instance, there are large groups of people that think 3E was the worst thing that ever happened to D&D, or even that it doesn't deserve to bear the name.

That's a perfectly understandable situation. Those people are wrong.

James McMurray · December 13, 2006, 11:39:31 AM

Yep, but only subjectively so.

Akrasia · December 13, 2006, 01:35:57 PM

Quote from: Sosthenes...
I consider AD&D 3 better than previous editions ...

There was a 3rd edition of AD&D? :confused: Do you mean C&C?

(Exactly why '3e D&D' is considered the 'third edition' -- as opposed to the 8th or 9th 'edition' -- has 100% to do with marketing and 0% with reality.)

Akrasia · December 13, 2006, 01:38:28 PM

Quote from: James McMurrayYep, but only subjectively so.

They're subjectively wrong, but objectively right. :vulcan:

James McMurray · December 13, 2006, 02:07:37 PM

Brain... melting... Can't hold logic...

Aiieeeee!1!!1

Sosthenes · December 13, 2006, 02:15:50 PM

Quote from: AkrasiaThere was a 3rd edition of AD&D? :confused: Do you mean C&C?

:rimshot:

Well, I consider both C&C and D&D 3 better than previous editions. And yes, dropping the "Advanced" might have been suggested by marketing, but when you don't have the Basic game anymore it makes perfect sense. You reallly don't need to be "advanced" to hack some orcs using the D20 rules...

Blackleaf · December 13, 2006, 02:35:52 PM

Actually I think it went D&D > AD&D > Basic D&D...

Dominus Nox · December 13, 2006, 04:35:09 PM

Speaking as someone with 3 and 4 edition gurps, I can say that gurps 4e was something of an improvement, but it lost some of the detail that gurps 3e had. Still, if you want the details from 3e, like hollowpoint bullets fired from low power weapons often failing to mushroom and do more danage, you can easily port them over.

So sometimes even a fourth ed can be an improvement.