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[4e is not for everyone] The Tyranny of Fun: quit obsessing over my 2008 post already

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Zalmoxis

#1275
October 04, 2010, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: Benoist;408057No. It's not the case. :)

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P&P

#1276
October 04, 2010, 12:58:29 PM
And did he swallow?
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LordVreeg

#1277
October 04, 2010, 02:43:13 PM
Yeah, but of all the threads to cast thread necromancy on...did it have to be this one?
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#1278
October 04, 2010, 03:14:10 PM
Quote from: LordVreeg;408064Yeah, but of all the threads to cast thread necromancy on...did it have to be this one?

Indeed.
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ColonelHardisson

#1279
October 04, 2010, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: Zalmoxis;408047Warning! Personal, un-objective opinions follow!


I don't like 4e, and didn't care much for 3e either. I prefer games with more focus and structure, like AD&D and AD&D 2e. Not a fan of skill-based gaming. That is all.

4e and 3e aren't skill-based. They are games with skill systems.
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Benoist

#1280
October 04, 2010, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: ColonelHardisson;4080674e and 3e aren't skill-based. They are games with skill systems.
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#1281
October 04, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
Quote from: Zalmoxis;408047I don't like 4e, and didn't care much for 3e either. I prefer games with more focus and structure, like AD&D and AD&D 2e. Not a fan of skill-based gaming. That is all.

Quote from: ColonelHardisson;4080674e and 3e aren't skill-based. They are games with skill systems.

He said skill based gaming, not skill based system.

Having run into this confusion before (albeit coming from the direction of liking skill driven gaming instead of disliking it), I think I get what he's getting at.
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Zalmoxis

#1282
October 13, 2010, 05:45:45 PM
I think it comes from an effort to have a mechanic for everything, a sort of "kitchen sink" approach to character design. That appeals to some folks (obviously) but not to me. But I'm a convert to Grognardism and am one step away from the old folks home...

Benoist

#1283
October 13, 2010, 07:00:47 PM
Some threads never die. :D

StormBringer

#1284
October 13, 2010, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: Benoist;409559Some threads never die. :D
This is the thread that never eeeeends...
It just goes on and on my friends...
Some people started posting it,
not knowing what it was.
And they will continue posting it forever,
Just because...
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#1285
October 13, 2010, 07:32:56 PM
Quote from: Zalmoxis;408047Warning! Personal, un-objective opinions follow!


I don't like 4e, and didn't care much for 3e either. I prefer games with more focus and structure, like AD&D and AD&D 2e. Not a fan of skill-based gaming. That is all.

Despite 3.0 being my favourite version, I actually liked 2nd ed's NWP/kits system moreso than the 3e/4e skill sets. More flavourful. 3.x forces you to choose between either putting skill points into useful stuff (Spot, Search) or background stuff (Craft, Profession, Perform etc.), while 4e just dumped the wrong half of the skill set IMHO. Pointless if you're basically going to turn every action into a level check anyway.
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