Now that I have the custom banners to show off, I'm officially announcing next July's Madison, WI old-school, OSR, and traditional RPG convention... VENGER CON II: Electric Boogaloo!
Here's the page: https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
If you have questions, please ask.
VS
Love the banner.
How about hosting the first ever Freedom Awards? Freedom loving people of all stripes and walks of life answer to the corrupt ennies.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 10, 2022, 11:53:38 AM
Love the banner.
How about hosting the first ever Freedom Awards? Freedom loving people of all stripes and walks of life answer to the corrupt ennies.
Yes, I'm definitely open to hosting some kind of Old-School RPG awards at
VENGER CON. Feel free to suggest stuff, guys. Just... keep it simple. I'm already going to have a lot on my plate with running the convention.
Also, thanks for coming up with the initial design for the VENGER CON font, hoss. The one-horned "V" was genius! ;)
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 10, 2022, 01:54:31 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 10, 2022, 11:53:38 AM
Love the banner.
How about hosting the first ever Freedom Awards? Freedom loving people of all stripes and walks of life answer to the corrupt ennies.
Yes, I'm definitely open to hosting some kind of Old-School RPG awards at VENGER CON. Feel free to suggest stuff, guys. Just... keep it simple. I'm already going to have a lot on my plate with running the convention.
Also, thanks for coming up with the initial design for the VENGER CON font, hoss. The one-horned "V" was genius! ;)
Great! We need to come up with some categories anbd maybe some volunteers to run it, so you don't have to.
Awshucks! It was nothing, drawed inspiration from your namesake from the cartoon.
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
Geocities wants its webpage back!
I'm all for the convention, pity I can't go, but it is what it is. I wish you the best of luck. We need more cons to matter than gen con.
I love seeing some of the wokesters clicking on that sad emoji whenever you post this topic on Facebook.
Maybe at your next convention you should offer a stack of X-card toilet paper at each table.
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
I used to think it was any 1970s or 80s (maximum 1986) role-playing game, but I have recently been notified that it is only OD&D, Basic/Expert, BECMI (Rules Cyclopedia), and AD&D derivatives. :o
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Quote from: Timothe on August 17, 2022, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
I used to think it was any 1970s or 80s (maximum 1986) role-playing game, but I have recently been notified that it is only OD&D, Basic/Expert, BECMI (Rules Cyclopedia), and AD&D derivatives. :o
Yeah, the definition changes a lot. I like the way you used to view it - 1986 and earlier.
But then does new traveller count as OSR? Most would say no. That then leads me to think games based from that period and done by smaller named publishers using traditional rp styles. Hard saying. Someone will come in and tell me I'm wrong. This is the rpgsite. ;)
Quote from: Timothe on August 17, 2022, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
I used to think it was any 1970s or 80s (maximum 1986) role-playing game, but I have recently been notified that it is only OD&D, Basic/Expert, BECMI (Rules Cyclopedia), and AD&D derivatives. :o
You say "been notified," but by whom? Is there any true authority? I don't believe there is, which is why I suggested Venger write out the criteria he will be using.
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 17, 2022, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: Timothe on August 17, 2022, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
I used to think it was any 1970s or 80s (maximum 1986) role-playing game, but I have recently been notified that it is only OD&D, Basic/Expert, BECMI (Rules Cyclopedia), and AD&D derivatives. :o
You say "been notified," but by whom? Is there any true authority? I don't believe there is, which is why I suggested Venger write out the criteria he will be using.
RPGPundit – the guy who owns this forum – stated as such to me on a recent video comment.
Quote from: Timothe on August 18, 2022, 02:24:54 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 17, 2022, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: Timothe on August 17, 2022, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
I used to think it was any 1970s or 80s (maximum 1986) role-playing game, but I have recently been notified that it is only OD&D, Basic/Expert, BECMI (Rules Cyclopedia), and AD&D derivatives. :o
You say "been notified," but by whom? Is there any true authority? I don't believe there is, which is why I suggested Venger write out the criteria he will be using.
RPGPundit – the guy who owns this forum – stated as such to me on a recent video comment.
That's his opinion. It may not be shared by everyone, perhaps not by Venger.
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 17, 2022, 04:22:47 PM
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What?
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
Just like the convention, I think the Tentacular Awards should be old-school, OSR, and traditional. If I was just going by OSR, I'd probably say anything after 1992 would be out, and not just D&D mechanics.
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 18, 2022, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
Just like the convention, I think the Tentacular Awards should be old-school, OSR, and traditional. If I was just going by OSR, I'd probably say anything after 1992 would be out, and not just D&D mechanics.
May I suggest staying with OSR = D&D up until 1982 and the OTHER old Scholl gets it's own category OSG.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 18, 2022, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 18, 2022, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
Just like the convention, I think the Tentacular Awards should be old-school, OSR, and traditional. If I was just going by OSR, I'd probably say anything after 1992 would be out, and not just D&D mechanics.
May I suggest staying with OSR = D&D up until 1982 and the OTHER old Scholl gets it's own category OSG.
I don't think that's a good idea. We had Traveller before 1982, and it has clones. The original Role Master (two words, IIRC) came out before 1982 too. Villians & Vigillantes was before 1980. Hero System/Champions started in 1981. I'm sure others here have many more examples. I'd rather not see any awards limited to only D&D-based DNA.
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 19, 2022, 06:04:56 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 18, 2022, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 18, 2022, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
Just like the convention, I think the Tentacular Awards should be old-school, OSR, and traditional. If I was just going by OSR, I'd probably say anything after 1992 would be out, and not just D&D mechanics.
May I suggest staying with OSR = D&D up until 1982 and the OTHER old Scholl gets it's own category OSG.
I don't think that's a good idea. We had Traveller before 1982, and it has clones. The original Role Master (two words, IIRC) came out before 1982 too. Villians & Vigillantes was before 1980. Hero System/Champions started in 1981. I'm sure others here have many more examples. I'd rather not see any awards limited to only D&D-based DNA.
Then don't call it the OSR awards, call it the OSG awards (Old School Gaming for those out of the loop).
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 19, 2022, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 19, 2022, 06:04:56 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 18, 2022, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 18, 2022, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
Just like the convention, I think the Tentacular Awards should be old-school, OSR, and traditional. If I was just going by OSR, I'd probably say anything after 1992 would be out, and not just D&D mechanics.
May I suggest staying with OSR = D&D up until 1982 and the OTHER old Scholl gets it's own category OSG.
I don't think that's a good idea. We had Traveller before 1982, and it has clones. The original Role Master (two words, IIRC) came out before 1982 too. Villians & Vigillantes was before 1980. Hero System/Champions started in 1981. I'm sure others here have many more examples. I'd rather not see any awards limited to only D&D-based DNA.
Then don't call it the OSR awards, call it the OSG awards (Old School Gaming for those out of the loop).
Why? Why the need to put D&D derived works on a pedestal of theor own?
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 19, 2022, 03:30:23 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 19, 2022, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 19, 2022, 06:04:56 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 18, 2022, 09:46:27 PM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 18, 2022, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 13, 2022, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 12, 2022, 04:33:22 PM
The convention info has been updated. The OSR award show, held each year at VENGER CON, will be called The Tentacular! I'll be asking for volunteer judges and submissions at some point next Spring. I'm thinking each celebration of The Tentacular will be for OSR products released between the last convention and the current one.
https://tabletop.events/conventions/venger-con-ii:-electric-boogaloo
While I still have pondering to do (mostly, the exact wording), I want these awards to reflect the VS aesthetic. So, plain Jane, super-crunchy, card based RPG supplements and similar fare won't even be recognized.
You'll probably want to start by nailing down how your awards will define what is/isn't OSR since that's often ambiguous.
Just like the convention, I think the Tentacular Awards should be old-school, OSR, and traditional. If I was just going by OSR, I'd probably say anything after 1992 would be out, and not just D&D mechanics.
May I suggest staying with OSR = D&D up until 1982 and the OTHER old Scholl gets it's own category OSG.
I don't think that's a good idea. We had Traveller before 1982, and it has clones. The original Role Master (two words, IIRC) came out before 1982 too. Villians & Vigillantes was before 1980. Hero System/Champions started in 1981. I'm sure others here have many more examples. I'd rather not see any awards limited to only D&D-based DNA.
Then don't call it the OSR awards, call it the OSG awards (Old School Gaming for those out of the loop).
Why? Why the need to put D&D derived works on a pedestal of theor own?
Why not?
I'd bet that D&D has sold more RPGs than all of their competitors combined. And it has certainly had a far greater impact on the hobby than any other RPG or even group of RPGs. Why shouldn't its derivative get their own category?
Maybe we can get closer to the same page if I shared my expectations with y'all...
So, let's say I get 50 attendees (I'd be happy with that) and 5 products entered into The Tentacular (VENGER CON awards for OSR products). Instead of worrying if a particular product is OSR or traditional or old-school, the judges can evaluate all 5 products and determine the winner, 2nd place, and 3rd place. Done.
Just like the convention itself, I don't intend for the award show to be this vast mecca of international gaming, uniting all old-school roleplayers together. 50 people, half a dozen products, that's enough for me.
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 21, 2022, 03:11:19 PM
Maybe we can get closer to the same page if I shared my expectations with y'all...
So, let's say I get 50 attendees (I'd be happy with that) and 5 products entered into The Tentacular (VENGER CON awards for OSR products). Instead of worrying if a particular product is OSR or traditional or old-school, the judges can evaluate all 5 products and determine the winner, 2nd place, and 3rd place. Done.
Just like the convention itself, I don't intend for the award show to be this vast mecca of international gaming, uniting all old-school roleplayers together. 50 people, half a dozen products, that's enough for me.
Let those that bring the products judge the products? Sounds good to me. If you somehow attract writers that publish very non-traditional stuff, they can still throw it in and see how everyone feels about it, yes?
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 22, 2022, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 21, 2022, 03:11:19 PM
Maybe we can get closer to the same page if I shared my expectations with y'all...
So, let's say I get 50 attendees (I'd be happy with that) and 5 products entered into The Tentacular (VENGER CON awards for OSR products). Instead of worrying if a particular product is OSR or traditional or old-school, the judges can evaluate all 5 products and determine the winner, 2nd place, and 3rd place. Done.
Just like the convention itself, I don't intend for the award show to be this vast mecca of international gaming, uniting all old-school roleplayers together. 50 people, half a dozen products, that's enough for me.
Let those that bring the products judge the products? Sounds good to me. If you somehow attract writers that publish very non-traditional stuff, they can still throw it in and see how everyone feels about it, yes?
Yes.
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 23, 2022, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 22, 2022, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 21, 2022, 03:11:19 PM
Maybe we can get closer to the same page if I shared my expectations with y'all...
So, let's say I get 50 attendees (I'd be happy with that) and 5 products entered into The Tentacular (VENGER CON awards for OSR products). Instead of worrying if a particular product is OSR or traditional or old-school, the judges can evaluate all 5 products and determine the winner, 2nd place, and 3rd place. Done.
Just like the convention itself, I don't intend for the award show to be this vast mecca of international gaming, uniting all old-school roleplayers together. 50 people, half a dozen products, that's enough for me.
Let those that bring the products judge the products? Sounds good to me. If you somehow attract writers that publish very non-traditional stuff, they can still throw it in and see how everyone feels about it, yes?
Yes.
I love it.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 23, 2022, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 23, 2022, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on August 22, 2022, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on August 21, 2022, 03:11:19 PM
Maybe we can get closer to the same page if I shared my expectations with y'all...
So, let's say I get 50 attendees (I'd be happy with that) and 5 products entered into The Tentacular (VENGER CON awards for OSR products). Instead of worrying if a particular product is OSR or traditional or old-school, the judges can evaluate all 5 products and determine the winner, 2nd place, and 3rd place. Done.
Just like the convention itself, I don't intend for the award show to be this vast mecca of international gaming, uniting all old-school roleplayers together. 50 people, half a dozen products, that's enough for me.
Let those that bring the products judge the products? Sounds good to me. If you somehow attract writers that publish very non-traditional stuff, they can still throw it in and see how everyone feels about it, yes?
Yes.
I love it.
For this one thing, GB and I have found a point of agreement.