Quote from: CTPhipps;1065705They're basically a new kind of Merit and Flaw that's more like a non-consecutive background. They take an NPC or group of the setting like, say, Helena from Chicago by Night or the Succubus Club and you can buy a relationship to them.

A * in Succubus Club gives you knowledge and a reputation in the Succubus Club so you are viewed as a regular.

A **** in Succubus Club allows you to have your own franchise of it, with a Resources 3 coming in from it as well as all the accumulated mortals coming in to enjoy your drinks and dancing.

A * in Helena, for instance, might make you of Helena's line and slightly more prestigious among Toreador.

A ***** in Helena would allow you to call upon the Methuselah's influence once per adventure in some way because you're her favored pet or lover.

Their big benfit is a lot of fascinating information about characters and groups are placed in them.

For my V5 game I created a 1-3 lore sheet collection for Modius, Juggler, and "Gary Kindred."

So it's a hybrid of Ally, Contacts, Status, Resources, and other backgrounds all tied to a single person/location/organization then?

Quote from: HappyDaze;1065713So it's a hybrid of Ally, Contacts, Status, Resources, and other backgrounds all tied to a single person/location/organization then?

Basically they say to be more flexible with points if it means your characters are better defined.

So yes.

Instead of Resources 5, you get a business described and the ST can maybe give you a few extra points here and there for it.

Same for your "Predatory Style" which is basically describing who and what you feed on every night. You're even capable of being given an extra discipline dot if it's really good and tied with it.

The latest update for Backers has explained why the Lasombra have joined the Camarilla.

It makes surprising sense.

Quote from: CTPhipps;1065777The latest update for Backers has explained why the Lasombra have joined the Camarilla.

It makes surprising sense.

Wow, awesome news, I have long wanted the Lasombra to be in the Camarilla

Quote from: CTPhipps;1065777The latest update for Backers has explained why the Lasombra have joined the Camarilla.

It makes surprising sense.

That's a one up from the rest of the 'clans'.

Quote from: ShieldWife;1065794Wow, awesome news, I have long wanted the Lasombra to be in the Camarilla

Yes, Chicago by Night is doing double-duty as a city sourcebook as well as the Lasombra Clanbook for 5E.

It will include loresheets for Clan Lasombra, the stats for Talley the Hound, an explanation of what the Sabbat have been up to during the Gehenna War, why it was a REALLY bad idea to go Antediluvian hunting, and their current status.

Oh and their new Discipline of Oblivion which combines shadow casting with access to the Underworld.

90K hit!

That means the next Chronicle update will be Gary, Indiana!

FINAL STRETCH GOALS ANNOUNCED!

They hit 90K today.

At $93,000 in funding -  ART BUDGET INCREASE – Additional funds will be allocated to the art budget for Chicago By Night, allowing Onyx Path to include even more awesome art in the city supplement.

At $95,000 in funding - CHICAGO-THEMED GAMING GEAR - Dog Might Games will make Chicago By Night-themed gaming gear available for order (including a Chicago skyline Screen and a Lasombra symbol sheath). Click HERE to see their current Vampire offerings.

AT $96,000 in funding - LET THE STREETS RUN RED – A fourth and final chronicle will be added to Let the Streets Run Red.

At $100,000 in funding -  NEW ADD-ON REWARD: VAMPIRE: THE MASQUERADE 5th Edition Core Book PDF - A new Add-On Reward will be created. For +$24.99, backers will receive a PDF version of the Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition Core Book, the new edition that honors the deep story of the original, advancing the metaplot from where it left off and detailing exactly what has happened in the world of the Kindred up until tonight.

At $105,000 in funding - CHICAGO FOLIO: HERETICAL THREATS AND OBSERVATIONS – A fourth section will be added to the Chicago Folio, including the perspectives of the Church of Caine.

At $110,000 in funding - NEW ADD-ON REWARD: LET THE STREETS RUN RED - A new Add-On Reward will be created. For +$10, backers will receive the PDF version of Let the Streets Run Red. This Add On is available to Chicago By Night PDF Backers – Note: Chicago By Night hardcover backers will already have this reward automatically added to their rewards list.

Yeah, but how many of those people were expecting to pay for a new Woke WoD?

Quote from: RPGPundit;1066061Yeah, but how many of those people were expecting to pay for a new Woke WoD?

Yeah, that is my issue. When ever I hear something interesting about the new edition of Vampire, I have to remind myself that I don't want any of my money going to proselytize leftist ideology. The developers have said that they aren't interested in having me as a customer and I'll respect their wishes.

Now, if we could get a "red pilled" WoD rather than a "woke" one then I might be on board.

Quote from: ShieldWife;1066065Now, if we could get a "red pilled" WoD rather than a "woke" one then I might be on board.

Personally, I wouldn't want either.  Both are horrifically depressing and not all that fun or empowering to play in.

Quote from: ShieldWife;1066065Yeah, that is my issue. When ever I hear something interesting about the new edition of Vampire, I have to remind myself that I don't want any of my money going to proselytize leftist ideology. The developers have said that they aren't interested in having me as a customer and I'll respect their wishes.

Now, if we could get a "red pilled" WoD rather than a "woke" one then I might be on board.

You should never buy any product which you don't believe in. But I'm fairly sure Vampire: The Masquerade has always been Punk.

Which is the Man (Elders) vs. The Working Class (Anarchs) vs. Sabbat (Demon worshiping terrorists)

Vampires have always been black, white, gay, man, and women eating people while enjoying the excesses of being the secret masters of the world.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1066061Yeah, but how many of those people were expecting to pay for a new Woke WoD?

The World of Darkness has always been full of social satire.

I think part of the controversy is the fact the books refuse to conform to a fuzzy leftist ideology but are about cynical disdain of politicians, big money, and mind-control pf the masses no matter what claimed politic.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1066061Yeah, but how many of those people were expecting to pay for a new Woke WoD?

Hopefully less than just want a game supplement based on a successful early 90s property that most people remember fondly?

White Wolf was cynical, edgy, politically aware, and Gothic Punk.

But Chicago by Night is about its characters.

Having read Chicago by Night 5E as a backer, I know what the book is about.

The book is about playing vampires.

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