[Vampire: The Masquerade] [Kickstarter] Chicago by Night 5E is already funded!

CTPhipps · November 17, 2018, 03:53:47 PM

Quote from: Lurtch;1065006Plus OPP can do their best to keep pesky conservatives and orthodox Christian's from their game. Good on them! They can continue gatekeeping their insignificant product to the point that Vampire doesn't matter in the market....

Oh! Wait! They've done that already.

Speaking as a theist...

It's the World of Darkness. It's the place where you play a damned soul and a literal ecoterrorist living in worlds controlled by corrupt monstrous ancient evils.

It's not a very conservative sort of place/

Lurtch · November 17, 2018, 04:02:57 PM

Quote from: CTPhipps;1065025Speaking as a theist...

It's the World of Darkness. It's the place where you play a damned soul and a literal ecoterrorist living in worlds controlled by corrupt monstrous ancient evils.

It's not a very conservative sort of place/

That's great. Has nothing to do with OPP not wanting political conservatives in the club house. Having people around that disagree with them on tax policy is bad for diversity

CTPhipps · November 17, 2018, 05:45:13 PM

Fair enough.

We've hit the 3rd tie for THE CHICAGO FOLIO. The next is 90K for a 3rd chronicle in LET THE STREETS RUN RED.

They have notes for 4 tiers for both.

I've also asked if it's possible to use my NPC purchases to get older characters updated like Allicia and Evelyn Stephens.

They're not adverse.

Armchair Gamer · November 17, 2018, 09:51:01 PM

Quote from: Lurtch;1065006Plus OPP can do their best to keep pesky conservatives and orthodox Christian's from their game. Good on them! They can continue gatekeeping their insignificant product to the point that Vampire doesn't matter in the market....

Oh! Wait! They've done that already.

Well, as Charles Phipps pointed out, WW has never been particularly welcoming to conservatives and orthodox believers. I've never minded, because I've never been very interested in their games anyway.

But it does seem that the 'big names' in the hobby are, more and more, closing ranks in support of the Progressive Heresy.

Lurtch · November 17, 2018, 09:59:15 PM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1065074Well, as Charles Phipps pointed out, WW has never been particularly welcoming to conservatives and orthodox believers. I've never minded, because I've never been very interested in their games anyway. But it does seem that the 'big names' in the hobby are, more and more, closing ranks in support of the Progressive Heresy.

Well in order to make the hobby more diverse, inclusive, and welcoming, we must purge all the nonbelievers.

You know where we never hear this nonsense out of? Palladium Books and Steve Jackson.

Armchair Gamer · November 17, 2018, 10:02:19 PM

Quote from: Lurtch;1065079You know where we never hear this nonsense out of? Palladium Books and Steve Jackson.

I haven't heard it from Pinnacle, either, or is that just wishful thinking?

Lurtch · November 17, 2018, 10:07:43 PM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1065080I haven't heard it from Pinnacle, either, or is that just wishful thinking?

Sean Patrick Fannon was run out of town and he was the big tool over at PEG. I think the rest of the crew being here in Arizona makes it easier for them to know a diverse group of people and have friends from all backgrounds .

CTPhipps · November 17, 2018, 11:33:02 PM

I remind you guys that in DEADLANDS, they had the Confederacy renounce all sexism and racism let alone slavery.

Even I found that ridiculous.

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The stretch goals I'm looking forward to for Chicago by Night 5E are:

1. The Prince's Gambit card game

2. The 3rd section of Let the Streets Run Red

3. An art stretch goal for both Let the Streets Run Red and Chicago Folio

4. The 4th section of both Chicago Folio and Let the Streets Run Red

5. A possibility of getting them in stores.

Not sure how much the Kickstarter will have to raise to get that.

CTPhipps · November 18, 2018, 12:21:48 PM

Armchair Gamer · November 18, 2018, 12:46:29 PM

Quote from: CTPhipps;1065102I remind you guys that in DEADLANDS, they had the Confederacy renounce all sexism and racism let alone slavery.

Even I found that ridiculous.

And that's one of the things that's earned them the ire of some vocal Progressives, by not making the Confederacy perpetual and universal Black Hats. I believe them when they say it was done for playability, but I may be naive.

CTPhipps · November 18, 2018, 02:19:32 PM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1065183And that's one of the things that's earned them the ire of some vocal Progressives, by not making the Confederacy perpetual and universal Black Hats. I believe them when they say it was done for playability, but I may be naive.

I dunno, I'm a Southerner and have read the Confederacy's Constitution which is for the eternal preservation of the institution of slavery and white supremacy.

If it didn't exist as a motive, they'd be part of the Union.

But that's my .02.

CTPhipps · November 20, 2018, 10:59:04 PM

86K

Will we hit 100K?

I hope so!

CTPhipps · November 21, 2018, 08:32:55 PM

In any case, for those who might feel inclined to back the Kickstarter, Chicago by Night 5E is really awesome. I've gotten to read the manuscript (which any backer can since the book is complete, sans art)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/200664283/chicago-by-night-for-vampire-the-masquerade-5th-ed/description

* The Lasombra clan getting detailed.
* Their new discipline of Oblivion.
* 40 NPCs for Chicago and its surrounding areas
* A adventure hook generator with other forty story seeds.
* The new system for detailing NPCs that include current plots and hooks and roleplaying methods.
* A full-chronicle detailing whether the PCs will help the Lasombra join the Camarilla or prevent it from happening.
* A coterie guide
* An actual write-up of Chicago by Chicago natives
* New Loresheets

That's in addition to the two stretch goals which have been met but could always use more padding.

* THE CHICAGO FOLIO - A supplement of in-universe documents, letters, e-mails, and transcripts of the various characters interacting. Plus a whole new collection of [=NPCs=] and plot hooks.

* LET THE STREETS RUN RED - Milwaukee, Indianopolis, Chicago's suburbs, and rural Illinois get detailed in 3 (at present) new chronicles showing the rest of the Rust Belt and how it relates to the Windy City.

Fans had the chance to insert their own NPCs into canon (within reason), be used as art models, and determine the fate of certain NPCs.

I bought Prince Maxwell, 3 NPCs (I've okayed it that I can use two to bring back Allicia and Evelyn from FORGED IN STEEL), and a piece of art I'm going to use for myself as an Anarch.

HappyDaze · November 21, 2018, 08:53:24 PM

For those that don't own V5, what are Loresheets and how are they used?

CTPhipps · November 21, 2018, 09:06:34 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1065703For those that don't own V5, what are Loresheets and how are they used?

They're basically a new kind of Merit and Flaw that's more like a non-consecutive background. They take an NPC or group of the setting like, say, Helena from Chicago by Night or the Succubus Club and you can buy a relationship to them.

A * in Succubus Club gives you knowledge and a reputation in the Succubus Club so you are viewed as a regular.

A **** in Succubus Club allows you to have your own franchise of it, with a Resources 3 coming in from it as well as all the accumulated mortals coming in to enjoy your drinks and dancing.

A * in Helena, for instance, might make you of Helena's line and slightly more prestigious among Toreador.

A ***** in Helena would allow you to call upon the Methuselah's influence once per adventure in some way because you're her favored pet or lover.

Their big benfit is a lot of fascinating information about characters and groups are placed in them.

For my V5 game I created a 1-3 lore sheet collection for Modius, Juggler, and "Gary Kindred."