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V5 is happening?

Started by Jason Coplen, April 28, 2018, 02:51:38 PM

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Rod's Duo Narcotics

#15
April 29, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: RF Victor;1036504OMFG.

It gets worse.

https://icv2.com/gallery/38269/3

https://icv2.com/gallery/38269/2

HAHAHA


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NeonAce

#16
April 29, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Rod's Duo Narcotics;1036569HAHAHA

What you want your friends to think you do
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What you actually do

You're just making fun of a different kind of nerd, but fact is, we're all nerds. The whole goddamned industry is ridiculous if you're not into its kind of fun. We're playing pretend. It's fine.

RF Victor

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April 29, 2018, 11:39:57 PM
Quote from: Rod's Duo Narcotics;1036569HAHAHA


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HAAHAHHAHAHA well said!


Quote from: NeonAce ;1036569You're just making fun of a different kind of nerd, but fact is, we're all nerds. The whole goddamned industry is ridiculous if you're not into its kind of fun. We're playing pretend. It's fine.


White Wolf is the one who started, and that's why I have no reserves about making fun of them. Did you see the trailer for the WOD documentary? "Everything before Vampire was dorky fantasy" is their argument. Have a look!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UMf8SgSH5A

And then they release... A game so MATURE it has cheap softcore SEXAY pictures of vampire chicks making out instead of some decent art? HAAHAHHAHAAHHA :D

RF Victor

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April 29, 2018, 11:55:17 PM
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Ulairi

#19
April 30, 2018, 03:38:57 PM
Looks awful.

The Star Trek Borg cube was awesome sauce and the best money I've ever spent.

Mordred Pendragon

#20
April 30, 2018, 05:28:36 PM
White Wolf went to shit when Mark Rein-Hagen and Andrew Greenburg left and Justin Achilli took over.

Even with Achilli gone, Ericsson wants to continue Achilli's legacy.
Sic Semper Tyrannis

Christopher Brady

#21
April 30, 2018, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Doc Sammy;1036668White Wolf went to shit when Mark Rein-Hagen and Andrew Greenburg left and Justin Achilli took over.

Even with Achilli gone, Ericsson wants to continue Achilli's legacy.

OK, we get it, you hate Justin Achilli.  Unfortunately, you're also wrong.  Rein-Hagen was the reason it's not that good a game system.  Ignoring his rather obvious pretentiousness, he saddled a Vampire game based on conflict without answering the most basic of conflict systems.
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Mordred Pendragon

#22
April 30, 2018, 10:00:02 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1036685OK, we get it, you hate Justin Achilli.  Unfortunately, you're also wrong.  Rein-Hagen was the reason it's not that good a game system.  Ignoring his rather obvious pretentiousness, he saddled a Vampire game based on conflict without answering the most basic of conflict systems.

Mark Rein-Hagen had his flaws, but a lot of the pretentiousness of VTM can be laid at Justin Achilli's feet with his One True Way attitude that was all over Revised Edition.
Sic Semper Tyrannis

DMK

#23
April 30, 2018, 10:10:56 PM
Quote from: RF Victor;1036504OMFG.

It gets worse.

https://icv2.com/gallery/38269/3

https://icv2.com/gallery/38269/2

Oh, dear.

I mean...I do a  lot of work with PhotoShop. It's a great tool.

But this...this looks like a PS enthusiast with no particular skill with the program was given a variety of photos and told, "Make 'em look cool! And creepy. But mostly kewl!"

Mordred Pendragon

#24
April 30, 2018, 10:15:48 PM
Quote from: DMK;1036707Oh, dear.

I mean...I do a  lot of work with PhotoShop. It's a great tool.

But this...this looks like a PS enthusiast with no particular skill with the program was given a variety of photos and told, "Make 'em look cool! And creepy. But mostly kewl!"

I know, right?

I thought Revised Edition was the worst version of Vampire: The Masquerade, but it looks like V5 is going to take the cake.
Sic Semper Tyrannis

Opaopajr

#25
May 01, 2018, 01:27:36 AM
Of Vampire system variants, either Masquerade or Requiem, I already have sufficient. I am not on the market for a new rehash of old hash. I like the oldest hash well enough. I just want more modules (small plug n play content) for my old favorites.
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Chris24601

#26
May 01, 2018, 09:24:47 AM
Yeah, I've got such a well established campaign setting for Mage that even adventure type options aren't even needed by me. Honestly, I suspect I won't care one way or another about Mage5 so long as "Gods, Monsters & Familar Strangers" for Mage20 (the last overflow book with material they had to cut from the core book for space) gets released before nuWW gets around to telling them to stop like they did with the V20 supplements.

Best case would be V5 tanks so badly they never get around to killing the rest of the OP run lines. A World of Darkness without vampires as the centerpiece might even be something interesting to explore and see some of the other parts get some more attention.

RPGPundit

#27
May 03, 2018, 02:50:54 AM
Vampire was always garbage.
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#28
May 03, 2018, 07:20:48 AM
Seconding that Vampire was never good.

The modern heartbreakers like Monsterhearts, Urban Shadows and Feed are vastly superior.

Mike the Mage

#29
May 03, 2018, 07:57:29 AM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1037261The modern heartbreakers like Monsterhearts, Urban Shadows and Feed are vastly superior.

Monsterhearts?

QuoteIn Monsterhearts any PC may roll to turn any other character on, and all the characters have a sex move (as indicated above). This is explicitly because as a teenager you don't get to choose what turns you on, and because "Monsterhearts is a game about the confusion that arises when your body and your social world start changing without your permission."[5] It also, because of this, has a double page dedicated to using Monsterhearts to explore queer content.

This approach to sexuality has drawn comment, with Bitch Magazine commenting, "Indeed, nearly every rule related to sex and sexuality in Monsterhearts is a game manifestation of real-life sexual dynamics, good and bad, healthy and unhealthy. Instead of the rote, heterosexist portrayals of sex and sexuality you might find in other games, Monsterhearts gleefully encourages people of all identities to explore sexuality in every permutation, often with great self-examination and as uncomfortably as possible. But for a game with such a depth of emotional/sexual content, it's remarkably free of sexism. It also doesn't slut-shame, or enforce traditional gendered tropes of judgment about sexual behavior."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsterhearts#Sexuality_and_queer_content

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