What?

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/vampire-the-masquerade

I got this in my email and had no clue it was happening. It appears to be some sort of distribution collaboration.

My humblest apologies if someone already posted something about this.

Quote from: Jason Coplen;1036444What?

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/vampire-the-masquerade

I got this in my email and had no clue it was happening. It appears to be some sort of distribution collaboration.

My humblest apologies if someone already posted something about this.

I got it too. It's a pre-order thing...as much as I'm sure the new White Wolf folks are serious, I will wait for the pictures to be more than photos hop mockups.

Over $500 for the limited edition? I am going to buy it just to flip it in a few years.

The Modiphius Borg cube I purchased is way better and cost less.

More 2D20 nonsense? I hope not.  Who keeps feeding Modiphius? Let it die on the vine.

If it's just a new printing, we already have our coffee table books.

V5 is definitely going to suck and it will sink like the Lusitania.

Not even the awesomeness of Mark Rein-Hagen can save this trainwreck, Justin Achilli saw to that.

Well, actually Martin Ericsson did because he decided to continue with Achilli's worst decisions.

If V5 is actually enjoyable and not a metaplot-ridden wangsty Goth trainwreck, I will eat my hat!

Nope, it's not a reprint and from what I've gathered it's ruleset has about as much in common with the previous editions as Vampire the Requiem did and a lot of the focus is on the rules taking over your actions and that only drinking someone to death actually sates their hunger (which makes the whole Masquerade thing rather nonsensical as the playtest rules had the PCs murdering a dozen people in a night because they dropped the blood pool for hunger dice that you roll with every action thereafter that have a chance of turning your PC into a GM controlled NPC until they indiscriminately feed and the only way to be sure of not losing control is to regularly drink someone to death).

This is what happens when your game gets purchased by a Swedish video game company who wants their primary market to be Eurotrash LARPers.

Personally I'm hoping it crashes and burns before they can get around to ruining Mage with their "One World of Darkness" nonsense... or least delays things enough to get all the key Mage20 books out before NuWW takes over that part of the line.

Quote from: Chris24601;1036488Nope, it's not a reprint and from what I've gathered it's ruleset has about as much in common with the previous editions as Vampire the Requiem did and a lot of the focus is on the rules taking over your actions and that only drinking someone to death actually sates their hunger (which makes the whole Masquerade thing rather nonsensical as the playtest rules had the PCs murdering a dozen people in a night because they dropped the blood pool for hunger dice that you roll with every action thereafter that have a chance of turning your PC into a GM controlled NPC until they indiscriminately feed and the only way to be sure of not losing control is to regularly drink someone to death).

This is what happens when your game gets purchased by a Swedish video game company who wants their primary market to be Eurotrash LARPers.

Personally I'm hoping it crashes and burns before they can get around to ruining Mage with their "One World of Darkness" nonsense... or least delays things enough to get all the key Mage20 books out before NuWW takes over that part of the line.

See, I told you that V5 was going to suck.

We could've avoided all this bullshit had WW never hired Justin Achilli in the first place. The metaplot would have not gotten out of hand, we wouldn't have Gehenna, which means we wouldn't have Vampire: The Requiem and the failure of New World of Darkness which led to the CCP merger that gutted White Wolf completely and caused them to get bought out by Paradox Interactive in the end.

TL;DR Justin Achilli is a talentless hack who ruined World of Darkness.

Just to clear up a couple misconceptions (not that I have ANY connection to the new Vampire)...
Modiphius is just doing the distribution, as White Wolf / Onyx Path don't really DO general releases anymore having switched mostly to a PoD model of business.
The system is still going to be a pool of d10s, not 2d20, but there are also Hunger Dice that are added to the pool (no idea what that means)
Ken Hite is primary developer of the game, and has, in the past at least, been very vocal about how he can't see vampires as 'heroic'. (as an example, when the playtest file went out a year ago, if a vampire ate a baby they would temporarily be able to pass as human, with the flush of life skin tone. (as you can imagine this made the outrage brigade of TBP take notice and express some displeasure)

Quote from: Chris24601;1036488Nope, it's not a reprint and from what I've gathered it's ruleset has about as much in common with the previous editions as Vampire the Requiem did and a lot of the focus is on the rules taking over your actions and that only drinking someone to death actually sates their hunger (which makes the whole Masquerade thing rather nonsensical as the playtest rules had the PCs murdering a dozen people in a night because they dropped the blood pool for hunger dice that you roll with every action thereafter that have a chance of turning your PC into a GM controlled NPC until they indiscriminately feed and the only way to be sure of not losing control is to regularly drink someone to death).

This is what happens when your game gets purchased by a Swedish video game company who wants their primary market to be Eurotrash LARPers.

Personally I'm hoping it crashes and burns before they can get around to ruining Mage with their "One World of Darkness" nonsense... or least delays things enough to get all the key Mage20 books out before NuWW takes over that part of the line.

Hate to break it to you, it's crashed long before that point.  It died back in the early 2000's.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1036492Hate to break it to you, it's crashed long before that point.  It died back in the early 2000's.

And you can thank that Goth piece of shit Justin Achilli for that.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1036481More 2D20 nonsense? I hope not.  Who keeps feeding Modiphius? Let it die on the vine.

If it's just a new printing, we already have our coffee table books.

No, but the dice are proprietary.

https://twitter.com/Modiphius/status/990246997012762624

I don't know what to say about these covers. If they wanted to make the books not look at all like RPG books... they succeeded. Not really a bad goal -- the original Vampire was like that when it first came out. However...  it was still IN GENRE. You got that it was a Vampire thing. It was horror, fantasy. It could be the cover of a novel. This new cover looks like... a fashion thing? And than we have this sample of a page spread:

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I... don't get it.

Maybe they will finally turn Vampire into something that is "indistinguishable from club culture" like they preached in the trailer for the WOD documentary.

I thought it already was indistinguishable from the culture.  And I'm saying this with complete seriousness.

OMFG.

It gets worse.

https://icv2.com/gallery/38269/3

https://icv2.com/gallery/38269/2

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1036492Hate to break it to you, it's crashed long before that point.  It died back in the early 2000's.

Onyx Path has been doing a pretty good job with the 20th Anniversary Edition material and they brought back a bunch of the original creators for the projects (which was a very good thing for Mage) and the mechanics are more a cleaned up 2e (call it 2.5e) than some of the questionable updates from Revised/3e.

The gist has been "reports of the world's end have been greatly exaggerated." In Mage20 they presented options that ranged  from "The Revised Metaplot Never Happened" to "The Metaplot Happened but it was just another millennial scare (at worst it happened in a parallel universe an Etherite or two had visited) and things are mostly back to normal (no more Avatar Storm and paradox levels are back to what they were in 2e)" to "Metaplot is still looming (and here are the mechanics for that)" and then leave it to the GM to decide what they prefer.

They also consolidated everything and cleaned up/clarified the rules (particularly for sphere magic). M20 core is nearly 700 pages (and they still needed to cut so much that they made three books out of the overflow). V20 core included every clan bloodline and discipline all in the core book.

If you were a fan of the pre-metaplot WoD then the 20th Anniversary editions are definitely up your alley.

Which is why the nuWW V5 is even worse than it's poor mechanics.

I officially fail to care:). Will see what it looks like when it turns out, but I'm unlikely to play it before Aquelarre and Vital Hearts.
And I'm not running either of these right now;).