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Useful shorthand is useful Re: Witch, Druid, etc.

Started by GeekyBugle, October 18, 2023, 01:20:26 PM

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jhkim

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November 01, 2023, 10:39:32 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 31, 2023, 12:36:52 PM
I've already proven that in the only games where Shaman could be used for the medicine man from the "first nations" it's very rare to find it at all.

That you or other people see the class and think amerindians speaks about you a lot more than about the class itself.

The three games that I think of with "shaman" are Runequest, Shadowrun, and Deadlands. Runequest uses it for old cultures of mythic Europe, while Shadowrun and Deadlands use it for Native American. These were all very popular game lines. I'm actually not familiar with most of the old west games you previously cite, except for Boot Hill and Tombstone. You also noted shaman being in D20 Deadlands (unsurprisingly) and Old Dragon - Old West.

I'm wondering - what are the other games that use "shaman" as a character option or class, in any context?

GeekyBugle

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November 01, 2023, 01:06:07 PM
Quote from: jhkim on November 01, 2023, 10:39:32 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 31, 2023, 12:36:52 PM
I've already proven that in the only games where Shaman could be used for the medicine man from the "first nations" it's very rare to find it at all.

That you or other people see the class and think amerindians speaks about you a lot more than about the class itself.

The three games that I think of with "shaman" are Runequest, Shadowrun, and Deadlands. Runequest uses it for old cultures of mythic Europe, while Shadowrun and Deadlands use it for Native American. These were all very popular game lines. I'm actually not familiar with most of the old west games you previously cite, except for Boot Hill and Tombstone. You also noted shaman being in D20 Deadlands (unsurprisingly) and Old Dragon - Old West.

I'm wondering - what are the other games that use "shaman" as a character option or class, in any context?

Nowhere was a claim about a game being popular as a part of the claim.

The Claim was Shaman is being used to represent the medicine man from the "first nations".

So, for that claim researching Western themed games is the best way to see if this is true, I don't own Shadowrun so that one couldn't be in my research and IT'S NOT a Western themed game so, even if I owned it it still would have escaped my attention.

Runequest also isn't a Western themed game.

As to your question, I don't know, too many games for anyone to KNOW, but I've seen D&D, retroclones using it, not a single one I've seen (that's not a Western themed game) uses it to represent "first nations" medicine men, and those who do can be counted with one hand and have fingers to spare IME.

What would be the reason to do that research?
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