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It's a bit simpler than Venger is putting it.

What we should ask, not just to conventions but demand an answer from everyone who has a claim to any part of this hobby: Is it acceptable for an RPG game to just be about fun without infusing it with any modern political agenda, yes or no?

Then we have to make a list.

This whole kerfuffle started because Ernie knowingly made a political statement, so I don't see your point or argument.

Ernies "political statement" amounted to saying "there's people who want to play games without modern political indoctrination in them". That's all it was.

"TSR has been gone. There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity (laughs)."

Saying "these politics are dumb and don't matter" is a strong political statement.

First: Those politics ARE dumb and they DON'T matter.
However, Ernie never said that.

All Ernie said was a place in his club for "some people who are old fashioned, don't follow modern trends, and may not have concepts of gender identity". Not that those concepts are dumb or don't matter, just that IT'S OK FOR SOME PEOPLE NOT TO THINK AND TALK ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY. And particularly it's ok for your RPG not to have to be ABOUT those concepts. Or even include those concepts at all, when there's not a good reason to  include them. 

But the response from the Totalitarian left is "No, that's not OK. Everyone MUST think and talk about our cult dogma every moment of every day, in every RPG they play, and if they don't we will try our very hardest to destroy their lives and hopefully drive them to suicide, because we're not quite sure we'd be allowed to murder them with impunity yet... just give us another 3 years or so for that though.."

The quote is about people who did things.

It's one thing to not talk about gender identity in your games. It's another to put stereotypes as well established facts in your game. "Well this wasn't a political thing to say 30 years ago." can include some very political statements.

Would an extreme help? If you put in your game, "these magic pants are only worn by male characters because women don't wear pants", then you made a political statement, even though that was not considered political 70 years ago. Saying then that similar writing is fine in RPGs is then a political statement. You are saying such people's political actions are not something to be concerned about.

Conservatives constantly assume their overt political statements are apolitical. It's a recurring theme.

This is because Leftists politicize *everything* for the express purpose of gaining power, influence or advantage. See how that works?

This recent attempt is a very American-flavored variety of pitting races against one another, and building a coalition around anyone and anything viewed as a minority to be against the cultural structure.

This is where the whole statement, "You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you." (thanks Pericles) was re-branded by Trotsky who brought it to its natural conclusion: war.

You may be too ideologically grasped to pull yourself out, and realize you sit among a pile of outliers that are raging for the sake of raging. At some point you'll realize YOU are not one of them. This whole coalition of LGBT+ cannot sustain itself. It's only a useful tool for the real Leftists, who themselves are tools, for Globalist elites to have their dystopian utopia. A peasant utopia for them. A dystopian hell for us.

Yes it starts by activating weirdos to start burning shit down - gaming, comics, movies, pop-culture writ large. While the more politically minded assholes start burning down actual reality - see Portland. While political assholes grasped by this ideology start implementing policies that destroy our capacity to maintain our culture. This isn't rocket science. It only takes immense cognitive dissonance to 1) pretend it's not starting 2) believe it's true 3) pretend YOU won't be part of the purge when it goes down.

Rhedyn - I'm willing to bet there are people over at TBP that would wish you harm simply for posting here on this forum. Evil is transitive, didn't you know? You may not be interested in Evil. Evil is very interested in you.

That's what I heard.

COVID, wearing masks, and vaccination also became political since a party leader decided to have opinions on it. The only real difference between the Right politicizing issues and the Left, is that it's so stupid that any grand conspiracy I could attribute to it still seems stupid.

If Trump acted quicker, implemented border quarantine rules, and encouraged wearing masks and contact tracing/self-quarantining. The number of lockdowns and overall deaths would have been reduced so much that he would still be president. None of the pre-vaccine methods were going to do much with a third of Americans refusing to follow them and new flare up being imported daily.

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

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It's a bit simpler than Venger is putting it.

What we should ask, not just to conventions but demand an answer from everyone who has a claim to any part of this hobby: Is it acceptable for an RPG game to just be about fun without infusing it with any modern political agenda, yes or no?

Then we have to make a list.

This whole kerfuffle started because Ernie knowingly made a political statement, so I don't see your point or argument.

Ernies "political statement" amounted to saying "there's people who want to play games without modern political indoctrination in them". That's all it was.

"TSR has been gone. There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity (laughs)."

Saying "these politics are dumb and don't matter" is a strong political statement.

First: Those politics ARE dumb and they DON'T matter.
However, Ernie never said that.

All Ernie said was a place in his club for "some people who are old fashioned, don't follow modern trends, and may not have concepts of gender identity". Not that those concepts are dumb or don't matter, just that IT'S OK FOR SOME PEOPLE NOT TO THINK AND TALK ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY. And particularly it's ok for your RPG not to have to be ABOUT those concepts. Or even include those concepts at all, when there's not a good reason to  include them. 

But the response from the Totalitarian left is "No, that's not OK. Everyone MUST think and talk about our cult dogma every moment of every day, in every RPG they play, and if they don't we will try our very hardest to destroy their lives and hopefully drive them to suicide, because we're not quite sure we'd be allowed to murder them with impunity yet... just give us another 3 years or so for that though.."

The quote is about people who did things.

It's one thing to not talk about gender identity in your games. It's another to put stereotypes as well established facts in your game. "Well this wasn't a political thing to say 30 years ago." can include some very political statements.

Would an extreme help? If you put in your game, "these magic pants are only worn by male characters because women don't wear pants", then you made a political statement, even though that was not considered political 70 years ago. Saying then that similar writing is fine in RPGs is then a political statement. You are saying such people's political actions are not something to be concerned about.

Conservatives constantly assume their overt political statements are apolitical. It's a recurring theme.

This is because Leftists politicize *everything* for the express purpose of gaining power, influence or advantage. See how that works?

This recent attempt is a very American-flavored variety of pitting races against one another, and building a coalition around anyone and anything viewed as a minority to be against the cultural structure.

This is where the whole statement, "You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you." (thanks Pericles) was re-branded by Trotsky who brought it to its natural conclusion: war.

You may be too ideologically grasped to pull yourself out, and realize you sit among a pile of outliers that are raging for the sake of raging. At some point you'll realize YOU are not one of them. This whole coalition of LGBT+ cannot sustain itself. It's only a useful tool for the real Leftists, who themselves are tools, for Globalist elites to have their dystopian utopia. A peasant utopia for them. A dystopian hell for us.

Yes it starts by activating weirdos to start burning shit down - gaming, comics, movies, pop-culture writ large. While the more politically minded assholes start burning down actual reality - see Portland. While political assholes grasped by this ideology start implementing policies that destroy our capacity to maintain our culture. This isn't rocket science. It only takes immense cognitive dissonance to 1) pretend it's not starting 2) believe it's true 3) pretend YOU won't be part of the purge when it goes down.

Rhedyn - I'm willing to bet there are people over at TBP that would wish you harm simply for posting here on this forum. Evil is transitive, didn't you know? You may not be interested in Evil. Evil is very interested in you.

That's what I heard.

COVID, wearing masks, and vaccination also became political since a party leader decided to have opinions on it. The only real difference between the Right politicizing issues and the Left, is that it's so stupid that any grand conspiracy I could attribute to it still seems stupid.

If Trump acted quicker, implemented border quarantine rules, and encouraged wearing masks and contact tracing/self-quarantining. The number of lockdowns and overall deaths would have been reduced so much that he would still be president. None of the pre-vaccine methods were going to do much with a third of Americans refusing to follow them and new flare up being imported daily.

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

    Give me a number.   

What ticks me off the most about this is that I want to buy a product made by Jim ward. I don't care about the philosophy of Ernie or Lanasa. I want to see what Jim ward did. And I love everything he had produced hope this is just as good.

Quote from: Rhedyn on July 05, 2021, 03:48:24 PM
If you put in your game, "these magic pants are only worn by male characters because women don't wear pants", then you made a political statement, even though that was not considered political 70 years ago.

Those pants may have been majicked by a wizard to only work on men.  Maybe it was a taboo in the wizard's culture.
It's a great idea for flavor.   Perhaps the wizard also created magic dresses that can't be worn by men.
We create fantasy worlds often ones that assume ancient or medieval worlds that simply don't respect modern progressive values at all.
They are alien to the worlds we create.  And there are a substantial number of players who simply don't buy into the idea that anyone
who creates a world with "non-woke" cultures is themselves some sort of cretin.

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I'd want to ask GenCon what their community manager means by "White silence is white consent".
Do I have to make some sort of racialist affirmation to play a game at their con?

You know exactly what it means. This is what I'm talking about. It's purely rhetorical but what do you REALLY expect them to tell you if indeed you even asked them? You know damn well what they mean. What does that fact MEAN to you? Do you really want to go participate at their Con?

Yeah, but I'm expecting them answer something along the lines of "We're not going to expend the emotional labor to explain it to you" or "We recommend reading 'White Fragility' by Robin DiAngelo" just for shits and giggles.

The last GenCon I attended was the 50th anniversary.  Since then we've been attending Origins (This was mostly due to extreme overcrowding (60K+ to 17K+) and a higher attendee to event ratio.)  Origin's also went woke banning Larry Correia the first year we attended.  I did my part annoying them by asking "Where's Larry? I came to see Larry Correia, not you guys." every time we went by the authors area.  :-)

Quote from: tenbones on July 04, 2021, 03:35:18 AM
I mean it would be like asking me if I want to go participate at a shit-eating contest.

Why that's true, most of the people I met there were not SJWs, neither were most of the GMs. 
It wasn't so bad eating shit sandwiches together when you are sitting at a table were everyone eye-rolls at the crap the con is pushing.

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Quote from: Rhedyn on July 05, 2021, 05:49:55 PM
Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

Give me a number.

There's no point in responding to anyone who thinks Joe Biden is Far Right. They're so lost in their delusions that no reason can reach them.

Its actually a known feature of the indoctrination process used by the Marxists that anyone who disagrees with the Marxist position is an oppressor who must be resisted. You can't deprogram them or reason with them. They have no reason left to reach.

They worship an ideology who's leaders have murdered more people than any in history and can't wait to get permission to legally murder everyone they disagree with too. They'll say that's ridiculous, but piles of bodies in the hundred+ million range say they're lying, because that's what Marxists do.

Also, remember, in a Leftist's head all the crap they're adding to games and forcing onto the country isn't political to them... its just correct thinking. Only those to their political right can be political in their delusional state.

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If Trump acted quicker, implemented border quarantine rules, and encouraged wearing masks and contact tracing/self-quarantining.

This is not a sentence

Must have gone to elementary school in a blue state.

How about if we take the politics to Pundit's forum and stick to the thread topic.

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Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
It's a bit simpler than Venger is putting it.

What we should ask, not just to conventions but demand an answer from everyone who has a claim to any part of this hobby: Is it acceptable for an RPG game to just be about fun without infusing it with any modern political agenda, yes or no?

Then we have to make a list.

This whole kerfuffle started because Ernie knowingly made a political statement, so I don't see your point or argument.

Ernies "political statement" amounted to saying "there's people who want to play games without modern political indoctrination in them". That's all it was.

"TSR has been gone. There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity (laughs)."

Saying "these politics are dumb and don't matter" is a strong political statement.

First: Those politics ARE dumb and they DON'T matter.
However, Ernie never said that.

All Ernie said was a place in his club for "some people who are old fashioned, don't follow modern trends, and may not have concepts of gender identity". Not that those concepts are dumb or don't matter, just that IT'S OK FOR SOME PEOPLE NOT TO THINK AND TALK ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY. And particularly it's ok for your RPG not to have to be ABOUT those concepts. Or even include those concepts at all, when there's not a good reason to  include them. 

But the response from the Totalitarian left is "No, that's not OK. Everyone MUST think and talk about our cult dogma every moment of every day, in every RPG they play, and if they don't we will try our very hardest to destroy their lives and hopefully drive them to suicide, because we're not quite sure we'd be allowed to murder them with impunity yet... just give us another 3 years or so for that though.."

The quote is about people who did things.

It's one thing to not talk about gender identity in your games. It's another to put stereotypes as well established facts in your game. "Well this wasn't a political thing to say 30 years ago." can include some very political statements.

Would an extreme help? If you put in your game, "these magic pants are only worn by male characters because women don't wear pants", then you made a political statement, even though that was not considered political 70 years ago. Saying then that similar writing is fine in RPGs is then a political statement. You are saying such people's political actions are not something to be concerned about.

Conservatives constantly assume their overt political statements are apolitical. It's a recurring theme.

Leftists want every setting to be political indoctrination into their 21st century Seattle/Portland values.

If you had a setting where women didn't wear pants, saying "women don't wear pants" is not a political statement. If running a game in a historical setting with conventional morality and customs of that historical period is a "political statement", you're saying people can't run games set in those eras. You're essentially demanding the destruction of history.

Quote from: Rhedyn on July 05, 2021, 05:49:55 PM

COVID, wearing masks, and vaccination also became political since a party leader decided to have opinions on it. The only real difference between the Right politicizing issues and the Left, is that it's so stupid that any grand conspiracy I could attribute to it still seems stupid.

If Trump acted quicker, implemented border quarantine rules, and encouraged wearing masks and contact tracing/self-quarantining. The number of lockdowns and overall deaths would have been reduced so much that he would still be president. None of the pre-vaccine methods were going to do much with a third of Americans refusing to follow them and new flare up being imported daily.

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

This is veering into an off-topic political post. This is not a place to make political discussions outside of gaming. Please keep your posts to talking about politics only WITHIN the subject of gaming.

Consider this a warning.

You will be made to care.

That's their ideal, their endgame. It is not enough for to say 'OK, you enjoy this, but I enjoy this other thing, and prefer to do that'. You must approve of their diverse, inclusive vision, or you are just a bigoted shitlord.

And so it is with gaming. It used to be nobody minded if, to draw an example, Shark liked Twilight 2000 and I was happily running Paranoia. It was okay! Obviously we wouldn't have much overlap beyond the core 'we all roll the polyhedral dice'. Now, though, we have some dangerhaired lackwit insisting both Shark and I are terrible people for enjoying T2000 or Paranoia and we should be playing Coyote and Crow (and throw some money to make up for our privilege, too).

And that's why the proper response is to just say 'no'. And when they become strident, kick them out.

Meh. 

D&D survived the religious right upset by the demons and "witchcraft", it'll survive the left demanding orcs be equated with black people and transgendered married couples in magical wheelchairs.

Who knows.  Maybe 30 years from now when the then old stupids have been replaced with the then new stupids, we'll have something interesting from all of this.  And the new stupids complaining about God only knows what ("the use of elementals is offensive because it continues the stereotype that the Earth is meant to be exploited!"). 

(Digression:  Personally, I wish a more genuinely ethnically diverse setting might arise in D&D, so we could all go back to bashing orcs with impunity.  The Sword Coast may be intentionally designed to be generic and easily digested/modded, but I personally like settings that embrace having more of a unique feel to them.  Some more distinct cultures and ethnicities would be a good thing in my book, and I think a lot of people's.

Honestly though, even a more ethnically diverse setting wouldn't make the "orcs=blacks" people happy.  In working on a scenario I've stumbled across the pearl clutching regarding Tcho-Tchos in Delta Green, and realize that the people who say they're upset by inhuman races genuinely have problems separating "fictional non-human race of monsters" from "person of color".  You never see them thinking a community of monstrous frog people in Innsmouth is reflective of all white people, yet Tcho-Tchos are somehow reflective of all Asians to them (ignoring the fact that Tcho-Tchos are consistently depicted as being hated by every other Asian culture they bump up against).)

So, yet more intrigue from TSR 3.0

First, their twitter account had this, "Hi everyone, I am the new Public Relations Officer for [TSR]. The individual that was handling this account is no longer with TSR. Please direct all future TSR3 communications to me." It continued on, and was signed by "Michael".



Yesterday, "Michael's" posts disappeared from the Twitter accounts.

A Twitter user who follows TSR asked about it, responding to a further tweet about 4th of July, "Is this Michael speaking? Blink twice if you're OK." and was immediately blocked.

No sign of "Michael" since.

So, did TSR 3.0 make up "Michael" to try and repair the damage LaNasa had done? Sure looks that way. TSR 3.0 only had a couple of employees to begin with, so the claim they had "fired" whoever had been controlling the Twitter account previously (which at one point was claimed to be LaNasa himself) seems likely false.

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Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
It's a bit simpler than Venger is putting it.

What we should ask, not just to conventions but demand an answer from everyone who has a claim to any part of this hobby: Is it acceptable for an RPG game to just be about fun without infusing it with any modern political agenda, yes or no?

Then we have to make a list.

This whole kerfuffle started because Ernie knowingly made a political statement, so I don't see your point or argument.

Ernies "political statement" amounted to saying "there's people who want to play games without modern political indoctrination in them". That's all it was.

"TSR has been gone. There's a ton of artists and game designers and people that play..... and recently they were dissed for being old-fashioned, possibly anti modern trends, and enforcing, or even having the concepts of gender identity (laughs)."

Saying "these politics are dumb and don't matter" is a strong political statement.

First: Those politics ARE dumb and they DON'T matter.
However, Ernie never said that.

All Ernie said was a place in his club for "some people who are old fashioned, don't follow modern trends, and may not have concepts of gender identity". Not that those concepts are dumb or don't matter, just that IT'S OK FOR SOME PEOPLE NOT TO THINK AND TALK ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY. And particularly it's ok for your RPG not to have to be ABOUT those concepts. Or even include those concepts at all, when there's not a good reason to  include them. 

But the response from the Totalitarian left is "No, that's not OK. Everyone MUST think and talk about our cult dogma every moment of every day, in every RPG they play, and if they don't we will try our very hardest to destroy their lives and hopefully drive them to suicide, because we're not quite sure we'd be allowed to murder them with impunity yet... just give us another 3 years or so for that though.."

The quote is about people who did things.

It's one thing to not talk about gender identity in your games. It's another to put stereotypes as well established facts in your game. "Well this wasn't a political thing to say 30 years ago." can include some very political statements.

Would an extreme help? If you put in your game, "these magic pants are only worn by male characters because women don't wear pants", then you made a political statement, even though that was not considered political 70 years ago. Saying then that similar writing is fine in RPGs is then a political statement. You are saying such people's political actions are not something to be concerned about.

Conservatives constantly assume their overt political statements are apolitical. It's a recurring theme.

This is because Leftists politicize *everything* for the express purpose of gaining power, influence or advantage. See how that works?

This recent attempt is a very American-flavored variety of pitting races against one another, and building a coalition around anyone and anything viewed as a minority to be against the cultural structure.

This is where the whole statement, "You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you." (thanks Pericles) was re-branded by Trotsky who brought it to its natural conclusion: war.

You may be too ideologically grasped to pull yourself out, and realize you sit among a pile of outliers that are raging for the sake of raging. At some point you'll realize YOU are not one of them. This whole coalition of LGBT+ cannot sustain itself. It's only a useful tool for the real Leftists, who themselves are tools, for Globalist elites to have their dystopian utopia. A peasant utopia for them. A dystopian hell for us.

Yes it starts by activating weirdos to start burning shit down - gaming, comics, movies, pop-culture writ large. While the more politically minded assholes start burning down actual reality - see Portland. While political assholes grasped by this ideology start implementing policies that destroy our capacity to maintain our culture. This isn't rocket science. It only takes immense cognitive dissonance to 1) pretend it's not starting 2) believe it's true 3) pretend YOU won't be part of the purge when it goes down.

Rhedyn - I'm willing to bet there are people over at TBP that would wish you harm simply for posting here on this forum. Evil is transitive, didn't you know? You may not be interested in Evil. Evil is very interested in you.

That's what I heard.

COVID, wearing masks, and vaccination also became political since a party leader decided to have opinions on it. The only real difference between the Right politicizing issues and the Left, is that it's so stupid that any grand conspiracy I could attribute to it still seems stupid.

If Trump acted quicker, implemented border quarantine rules, and encouraged wearing masks and contact tracing/self-quarantining. The number of lockdowns and overall deaths would have been reduced so much that he would still be president. None of the pre-vaccine methods were going to do much with a third of Americans refusing to follow them and new flare up being imported daily.

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

If my Aunty had a penis she'd be my uncle.

This forum is made more stupid by your framing of your claims. You entirely ignore the fact that some of these things you claim are conspiracies - were actually true. You ignore the fact that people have a choice in their beliefs and actions for themselves and choose to do so - the fact it's political is because morons that believe in centralized authority to dictate everything in their lives takes precedence over the individual. They don't.

And you're moving this away from gaming - which as hobby suffers from the same stupid framing you're using here. You may not be American (I have no idea) but the streak of individualism in America is pretty strong. I suspect there is a good chance that a lot of people that don't understand how strong this inclination is will be forced to find out.

Then again I live in Texas. I could be biased. Yee-haw, and all that.

Quote from: RPGPundit on July 06, 2021, 12:05:28 AM]Leftists want every setting to be political indoctrination into their 21st century Seattle/Portland values.

If you had a setting where women didn't wear pants, saying "women don't wear pants" is not a political statement. If running a game in a historical setting with conventional morality and customs of that historical period is a "political statement", you're saying people can't run games set in those eras. You're essentially demanding the destruction of history.

It's pretty trivial to point out in your game what is a setting social pressure vs something presented as an objective fact.

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Quote from: Rhedyn on July 05, 2021, 05:49:55 PM

COVID, wearing masks, and vaccination also became political since a party leader decided to have opinions on it. The only real difference between the Right politicizing issues and the Left, is that it's so stupid that any grand conspiracy I could attribute to it still seems stupid.

If Trump acted quicker, implemented border quarantine rules, and encouraged wearing masks and contact tracing/self-quarantining. The number of lockdowns and overall deaths would have been reduced so much that he would still be president. None of the pre-vaccine methods were going to do much with a third of Americans refusing to follow them and new flare up being imported daily.

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

This is veering into an off-topic political post. This is not a place to make political discussions outside of gaming. Please keep your posts to talking about politics only WITHIN the subject of gaming.

Consider this a warning.

Now who is making things political that aren't? Every statement in there was made political by "The Right".

Ever consider how stupid, "Rightest make everything political even basic science to exert control and gain political power." sounds? You believe in all these "The Left" conspiracy theories. Have you ever considered that it's just a bunch of people disagreeing with others being assholes and not some coordinated effort to come after your hobbies?

Mobs are controlled by emotional impulses, and that cuts both ways.