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TSR is Coming Back? Or it is Back?

Started by Shawn Driscoll, June 17, 2021, 07:17:39 PM

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Plotinus

Quote from: Jaeger on June 18, 2021, 02:33:20 PM

Behold, The Red Flags:

All you need to know about their new TSR RPG GiantLands!...
Have a listen

Quote from: Silas1066 on June 21, 2021, 05:14:13 PMand what about the Marmoreal Tomb KS that was never delivered by Ernie and his old business buddies? $126,000 was raised for that, and it is over 5 years late. The comments and accusations on the KS page are scathing, with people claiming Ernie spent the money on a new home and wedding, and that the company doesn't even have money to print the materials. Troll Lord Games tried to come to the rescue, but the whole thing is a complete cluster

Holy hell, what a disaster.

There's a pattern here, right? With people like E Gary Gygax and Beno*st and Gar*th-Michael Sk*rka? Woke creators in the RPG industry who defraud people for years, but still genuinely believe that they are the most moral, compassionate, upstanding people in the room because of their politics? It's like there's a certain personality type.

They never take responsibility. They never want to provide monthly updates on Kickstarter, even though Kickstarter is where they took everybody's money, instead preferring to only communicate on some outside website where they can block anyone who criticizes them. They spend all day posting on social media, mostly about how anyone who disagrees with them about anything important is obviously evil and motivated by malice. They only get more shrill and arrogant as their guilt at their unfulfilled obligations gnaws away at them. They genuinely seem to believe that because they are the Right Sort of People who understand Systematic Injustice and who are considered to be wonderful by their equally Morally Correct friends and family, it really doesn't matter that they personally defrauded a bunch of people out of 100 grand. They're still a way better person than you, bigot. And of course, they never deliver any actual content, because they lied about how much of the project was complete to begin with, and because they're neurotic perfectionists who keep giving into scope creep and remaking everything again and again.

I mean, look at this quote from Gygax on that Kickstarter:

QuotePeople are wondering if I'm doing good right now. Let me tell you something. I've been through hell and back in another life time, way before this life took over in Canada and I became someone I could respect looking into a mirror.

I've got fantastic friends, brothers and sisters, in the Nuxalk nation in the real world, all over the place in Canada, and way beyond in the cyberspace. You know who you are, all of you. I'm proud to be who I am and I work at being the best I can be, both personally and professionally.

I am a reflection of all the trust and hopes bestowed upon me. And I am making my way into this world, creating, fulfilling my responsibilities, and hopefully making a little difference for people out there.

I've been taking a big step back from social media lately, and it's started a revolution in my mind. I've been listening to Marcus Aurelius's Meditations, the Philosopher King, you know, and trying to define the use of social media for me, and it has to be defined with a focus, an aim, a purpose, otherwise it's all procrastination and waste of time.

This is something I am thinking of and deliberating as I work my way through the Marmoreal Tomb project. I have always said I would update the KS when done with the main module, and the nature of the work, the inter-connectivity of it all, not just between main module and expansions but beyond to the projects that fuel the whole world of the Eurth, has slowed me down more than I wished.

I'm still committed to fulfillment this year, but one thing I will not do is give fuel to people who are frustrated and feed their own negativity to the point it's impossible to have conversations. I absolutely cannot be taking attacks right now that worry me and get me worried for weeks at a time before I work them out and get back to work on the module and expansions themselves. This type of interaction right now is right out for me, and so is the wasting of time arguing positions with people who have a purposeful aim to misinterpret whatever I could say or do in the most negative light possible.

The naysayers, the people who are just shitting on what we do right now, will regret it when it's done. If you are a nuisance in this critical time I'll just get you off my island on the internet -- I don't have time for this, ironically for your own sake and wishes, the very reasons why you feel like bitching in the first place.

In the meantime, I cannot be more proud, more amazed at the people who know and follow me, and who keep being positive and pump me up to go on and keep doing what needs to be done. THANK YOU. Thank you so much. You all are awesome and I love you. This is invaluable right now.

So right now let him be lost within his mountain valley and when the work is finished let it speak for itself. I'm not hard to find you will find me at Gary Con in a few weeks, running games and opening my cottage to fellow gamers from throughout the World.

Is it just me, or is this just breathtakingly self-righteous coming from a guy who was already 4 years late on delivering the thing he promised to people who gave him $126,000?

danskmacabre

Yeah, after my initial Nostalgia excitement, after some reading and seeing their posts etc, I'm walking away from new TSR.

Batjon

#92
So, this story keeps getting more and more interesting and weird.  I just saw tweets from Jayson Elliott with the TSR that produced the half-assed Top Secret: New World Order RPG blasting this new E. Gygax Jr. TSR on Twitter and basically he slandered their names and essentially said they were racists and transphobes, in a tirade about some past interview making its rounds on the internet.  He wanted to make sure everyone knew it was NOT his TSR company that did this.  He went on to virtue signal by making it clear that he and his TSR believe that "black lives matter, trans rights are human rights, science is real, kindness is everything." 

E. Gary Gygax Jr. days ago had responded to one of my comments personally on YouTube when I was trying to understand the news of this new TSR forming to inform me that the previous TSR had allowed the TSR IP lapse and Justin picked it up and asked Jayson to get on the bus.  Apparently, Jayson is not at all "on the bus" based on his tweets.

So, now we will essentially have 2 different TSR companies putting out different products.  Jayson's TSR will be licensing the TSR IP from Gygax's TSR while simultaneously insulting them by saying they are a bunch of old white men racists and transphobes. 

I have screenshots of all of this I am linking below for everyone to see.

https://ibb.co/G2LKgKr

https://ibb.co/GM0Gjg3

https://ibb.co/KwTjYg2


Ratman_tf

Quote from: Batjon on June 25, 2021, 04:23:26 AM
So, this story keeps getting more and more interesting and weird.  I just saw tweets from Jayson Elliott with the TSR that produced the half-ass Top Secret: New World Order RPG blasting this new E. Gygax Jr. TSR on Twitter and basically he slandered their names and essentially said they were racists and transphobes, in a tirade about some past interview making its rounds on the internet.  He wanted to make sure everyone knew it was NOT his TSR company that did this.  He went on to virtue signal by making it clear that he and his TSR believe that "black lives matter, trans rights are human rights, science is real, kindness is everything." 

E. Gary Gygax Jr. days ago had responded to one of my comments personally on YouTube when I was trying to understand the news of this new TSR forming to inform me that the previous TSR had allowed the TSR IP lapse and Justin picked it up and asked Jayson to get on the bus.  Apparently, Jayson is not at all "on the bus" based on his tweets.

So, now we will essentially have 2 different TSR companies putting out different products.  Jayson's TSR will be licensing the TSR IP from Gygax's TSR while simultaneously insulting them by saying they are a bunch of old white man racists and transphobes. 

I have screenshots of all of this I am linking below for everyone to see.

https://ibb.co/G2LKgKr

https://ibb.co/GM0Gjg3

https://ibb.co/KwTjYg2

Well, if they can't make games, they can at least make drama.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

RandyB

Quote from: Ratman_tf on June 25, 2021, 06:12:58 AM
Quote from: Batjon on June 25, 2021, 04:23:26 AM
So, this story keeps getting more and more interesting and weird.  I just saw tweets from Jayson Elliott with the TSR that produced the half-ass Top Secret: New World Order RPG blasting this new E. Gygax Jr. TSR on Twitter and basically he slandered their names and essentially said they were racists and transphobes, in a tirade about some past interview making its rounds on the internet.  He wanted to make sure everyone knew it was NOT his TSR company that did this.  He went on to virtue signal by making it clear that he and his TSR believe that "black lives matter, trans rights are human rights, science is real, kindness is everything." 

E. Gary Gygax Jr. days ago had responded to one of my comments personally on YouTube when I was trying to understand the news of this new TSR forming to inform me that the previous TSR had allowed the TSR IP lapse and Justin picked it up and asked Jayson to get on the bus.  Apparently, Jayson is not at all "on the bus" based on his tweets.

So, now we will essentially have 2 different TSR companies putting out different products.  Jayson's TSR will be licensing the TSR IP from Gygax's TSR while simultaneously insulting them by saying they are a bunch of old white man racists and transphobes. 

I have screenshots of all of this I am linking below for everyone to see.

https://ibb.co/G2LKgKr

https://ibb.co/GM0Gjg3

https://ibb.co/KwTjYg2

Well, if they can't make games, they can at least make drama.

Storygame LARPing?

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Batjon on June 25, 2021, 04:23:26 AM
So, this story keeps getting more and more interesting and weird.  I just saw tweets from Jayson Elliott with the TSR that produced the half-assed Top Secret: New World Order RPG blasting this new E. Gygax Jr. TSR on Twitter and basically he slandered their names and essentially said they were racists and transphobes, in a tirade about some past interview making its rounds on the internet.  He wanted to make sure everyone knew it was NOT his TSR company that did this.  He went on to virtue signal by making it clear that he and his TSR believe that "black lives matter, trans rights are human rights, science is real, kindness is everything." 

E. Gary Gygax Jr. days ago had responded to one of my comments personally on YouTube when I was trying to understand the news of this new TSR forming to inform me that the previous TSR had allowed the TSR IP lapse and Justin picked it up and asked Jayson to get on the bus.  Apparently, Jayson is not at all "on the bus" based on his tweets.

So, now we will essentially have 2 different TSR companies putting out different products.  Jayson's TSR will be licensing the TSR IP from Gygax's TSR while simultaneously insulting them by saying they are a bunch of old white men racists and transphobes. 

I have screenshots of all of this I am linking below for everyone to see.

https://ibb.co/G2LKgKr

https://ibb.co/GM0Gjg3

https://ibb.co/KwTjYg2

And Gary's TSR went to a podcast that has Burn Loot Murder all over the place along with the Rainbow Flag of Exclusion.

It's just a pissing contest to see who is more woke IMHO.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Merrill

Quote from: Batjon on June 25, 2021, 04:23:26 AM
So, this story keeps getting more and more interesting and weird.  I just saw tweets from Jayson Elliott with the TSR that produced the half-assed Top Secret: New World Order RPG blasting this new E. Gygax Jr. TSR on Twitter and basically he slandered their names and essentially said they were racists and transphobes, in a tirade about some past interview making its rounds on the internet.  He wanted to make sure everyone knew it was NOT his TSR company that did this.  He went on to virtue signal by making it clear that he and his TSR believe that "black lives matter, trans rights are human rights, science is real, kindness is everything." 

E. Gary Gygax Jr. days ago had responded to one of my comments personally on YouTube when I was trying to understand the news of this new TSR forming to inform me that the previous TSR had allowed the TSR IP lapse and Justin picked it up and asked Jayson to get on the bus.  Apparently, Jayson is not at all "on the bus" based on his tweets.

So, now we will essentially have 2 different TSR companies putting out different products.  Jayson's TSR will be licensing the TSR IP from Gygax's TSR while simultaneously insulting them by saying they are a bunch of old white men racists and transphobes. 

I have screenshots of all of this I am linking below for everyone to see.

https://ibb.co/G2LKgKr

https://ibb.co/GM0Gjg3

https://ibb.co/KwTjYg2

what an epic clusterfuck.

And I see Ernie getting cancelled all over FB.

Steven Mitchell

Looks like someone created multiple clones and the magic got out of control.  Hope they don't have access to the wish spell.   ;D

Merrill

Now Jeff Dee is denouncing Ernie and the new TSR, and saying he will no longer work with them

Of course lol. Dee is the high priest of cancel culture and a leftist lunatic

Jennell Jaquays went on some rant about Ernie as well apparently. No surprise there

The old guard devouring each other

Arkansan

Quote from: Silas1066 on June 25, 2021, 09:39:15 PM
Now Jeff Dee is denouncing Ernie and the new TSR, and saying he will no longer work with them

Of course lol. Dee is the high priest of cancel culture and a leftist lunatic

Jennell Jaquays went on some rant about Ernie as well apparently. No surprise there

The old guard devouring each other

What imagined faux pas is he guilty of? I avoid twitter like the plague so I'm not really up on the latest in dumbfuckery.

Batjon

Quote from: Arkansan on June 26, 2021, 12:55:18 AM
Quote from: Silas1066 on June 25, 2021, 09:39:15 PM
Now Jeff Dee is denouncing Ernie and the new TSR, and saying he will no longer work with them

Of course lol. Dee is the high priest of cancel culture and a leftist lunatic

Jennell Jaquays went on some rant about Ernie as well apparently. No surprise there

The old guard devouring each other

What imagined faux pas is he guilty of? I avoid twitter like the plague so I'm not really up on the latest in dumbfuckery.

I've been wondering the same exact thing.  WTH are these leftist virtue-signaling idiots going on about now? What did Ernie do to offend their snowflake feathers?

Zalman

Quote from: Arkansan on June 26, 2021, 12:55:18 AM
What imagined faux pas is he guilty of? I avoid twitter like the plague so I'm not really up on the latest in dumbfuckery.

Jeff Dee at least appears to be reacting to TSR's announcement apparently being intentionally misleading regarding his involvement with the company. The wording makes it sound as if Dee is a full time employee there, which sparked a rumor to that effect, which Dee fears will have a negative impact on his actual business model, which is commissioned work (as he did for Giantlands). The statement reads:

Quote
Be the first kid on your block to get our first blockbuster summer release, Giantlands! This crowdfunded game is made in Wisconsin with some of the original TSR team, like Larry Elmore, Jeff Dee, and James M. Ward. It will be among the first titles to bring TSR Games back to life.

So, technically no untruths there, but anyone who doesn't know the story ahead of time could easily draw the conclusion that these authors are more involved with TSR than they in fact are. Ward and Elmore are also working to dispel rumors to the same effect.
Old School? Back in my day we just called it "School."

Ghostmaker

There does seem to be tweets from the TSR account moving in direct opposition to the wokeists.

https://twitter.com/TSR_games/status/1408566618628710406 for starters.

Hm. Time to wait and see.

Thornhammer

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 26, 2021, 02:02:49 PM
There does seem to be tweets from the TSR account moving in direct opposition to the wokeists.

https://twitter.com/TSR_games/status/1408566618628710406 for starters.

Hm. Time to wait and see.

Ooh, I see a "hun" in the responses.

"Make Fantasy Great Again" would have brought forth much more hilarity.


Ghostmaker

I'm not saying Junior's completely redpilled.

But the fact that people are flipping their lids over 'hey, let's get back to escapism' and the TSR account is refusing to budge is... intriguing.