I know there are some Traveller fans here, so maybe they'll be interested in this.

:cool:

I liked some of the discussion on that thread but in the first post I saw something that just makes me shake my head.

"So...I was reading over the Traveller books again (LBB 1-3) and once again it occurred to me how stupid the computer rules were. Not only are they dreadfully obsolete by today's standards, we're talking 3,000 years from NOW!"

Okay do some people have no idea of when the game was written?  Or that back then computers were still early in their life and nobody thought they would be to the level they are now.  

Ah well....

Peter Amthor, you are a very polite man.

That Baphomet guy...

Nope, not going there.

It's good to be young. I'm happy for Baphomet69, may he live long and prosper, he's clearly destined for great things, like wearing mirrorshades in 2007.

Nice try, Jong. 7/10

Besides, its more like 5,000 years.

Just take Book 4 & 5into the mix, and Traveller is high tech as can be. Just looking at 1-3 does not do justice to the system.

Computers in Trav Canon are actually more advanced than those depicted in SR.

Quote from: Pierce Inverarity...like wearing mirrorshades in 2007.

Which I would, but for my prescription.

Accursed nature, thou hast forced mine eyes behind shaped glass!

Oh, by the way.  I ain't interested in Traveller + Shadowrun.  Elves + lasers = not my thing.

Anyone who thinks a game like Traveller needs more widgets is an inscrutable alien to me.  Yeah, the game has a wide spectrum of tech rules but in my mind that game is first and foremost about people.

Who could want more than TL 15?
Except Yaskodray, that is.

I challenge Shadowrun to a duel!

Fight the Imperial Marine with your puny Rocket launchers and Mago-Crap.

I say this is a case for SciFi smackdown.

Traveller is designed first and foremost as a playable science fiction game. All else follows from and is secondary to that. Adding in too much automation, nanotech, AI, or other whiz-bangs and you start compromising Traveller's strengths as both rules and setting IMO.

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Oh, by the way.  I ain't interested in Traveller + Shadowrun.  Elves + lasers = not my thing.

(insert obligatory dig at Darrians here) :gnome:

Traveller was already doing the "Patron screws you over" scenario in 1977.

Traveller books 1-3 really are more Outland than OTU. The tech is like the Korean War...in space...with lasers and armored space suits. As for the computers that "computers equal the whole communications infrastructure, they're built for ship use not desktop PCs, and Vilani technology" works well enough for me in game.

As for templates, TNE, GURPS Traveller and T20 (with the ones from the as yet unpublished Player's book) all pretty much have the same careers/templates. I think T20 may have a few from T4 as well.

Quote from: Casey777(insert obligatory dig at Darrians here) :gnome:

I don't use those guys.  I stick to the Big 6 but humans are about 98% of my cast.

You do not use the Darrians?

But Joan Collins was a Darrian!

Space: 1999 rocks hard.

IMO Traveller works better at the "aliens as exotic spice at best" level instead of Stars Wars Cantina in every spaceport. Especially with Humaniti having two main branches and multiple Minor Human variants. Hrm, Darrians and Geonee are both Minor Humans (Elves & Dwarves oh my!) and there's at least one or two Ogre size Minor Human species.

On that Space 1999 epside: :cool: More incentive to look for some Space 1999 dvds to rent. Hrm, that episode predates the Darrian alien module, though more likely is a similar Dorian (Greek) inspiration.

Obligatory Daryen page by Daryen for the Darrian apologist POV.

I did play (however briefly) a...wait.  What are they called?  They're the human variant that is...well, notimmune to fear but less affected by it.

Quote from: Casey777IMO Traveller works better at the "aliens as exotic spice at best" level instead of Stars Wars Cantina in every spaceport.

I have made this very point on CotI recently. It was not well received, nosirreebob.

PS: Darrians should be catapulted into the sun. IMTU D--

Also, IMTU A-- V-- H++, naturally.

Jury's still out on the Zhodani, though I admit to liking them sometimes.