I must win at all costs!

Even if it means everyone thinks i'm a cunt!

Seriously, put people on ignore. Yes, that's for 'Denners' and regulars.

I have puppies to feed.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;578503This is what you consider an apology?



Wow.  Keep digging.  I expect you to try to position yourself as the victim in a minute, and to ignore all of these examples of you doing behavior that you have said you don't do.

Do you want me to start going through your posts and quoting you being a dick. I can do that too ya know.

I've been trying do avoid personal insults recently but I can change that if you want.

I've found not being a total dick is more productive, you should try it sometime.

Quote from: One Horse Town;578505Even if it means everyone thinks i'm a cunt!

Seriously, put people on ignore. Yes, that's for 'Denners' and regulars.

I have puppies to feed.

Feed them Denners and Regulars, finely minced!

Quote from: gleichman;578509Feed them Denners and Regulars, finely minced!

I think they'd choke.

Quote from: Lord Mistborn;578507Do you want me to start going through your posts and quoting you being a dick. I can do that to ya know.

I've been trying do avoid personal insults recently but I can change that if you want.

I've found not being a total dick is more productive, you should try it sometime.

I've never claimed that I'm not a dick.  I know I can be sometimes.  But what I'm not is a hypocrite

Like I said.  You made your bed.  You can't take the high road now, no matter how much you try to deny your behavior.

Quote from: One Horse Town;578511I think they'd choke.

I'm having second thoughts. Do you think "you are what you eat" applies to puppies?

Quote from: gleichman;578513I'm having second thoughts. Do you think "you are what you eat" applies to puppies?

Shit, i called one of mine Brian! :rotfl:

One thing I've learned from the Den Invasion (at least for the denners posting here) is that the following two rules seems to be true:

1) If the RAW can be interpreted as allowing the player to do something, the GM must allow it or denners consider him a dick GM.  

2) If the RAW can be interpreted as giving the GM power over a character (not allowing all prestige classes in 3.x, not allowing a cleric his choice of spells in 1e/2e -- both things the RAW saying the GM should do) denners consider him a a dick GM if he follows the rule and doing so interferes with what they want for their character.

Basically, any GM who does not allow a player to walk all over them, the setting, and/or the other players is a dick GM -- whether the GM is following the RAW or not when he does so does not seem to really enter into it.

Quote from: One Horse Town;578515Shit, i called one of mine Brian! :rotfl:

Sigh, the errors we make in life.

If One Horse Town is going to close all the thread that "denners" frequent he might as well go whole hog and start banning them.

Just in case I get banned I think I'll thow out a big post on gaming therpgsite and everything.

DeadDMwalking and I are not denners we have accounts on TGD but I have literaly 1000% more posts here than on TGD. We are here because the debate is here, and it's not about Fighters vs Wizards or Bone Devils it's about how the game is played and where if should be going in the future.

DeadDMwalking, MGuy, Kaelik and myself have an ideal we want for RPG in general and D&D in particular. That a new DM and a new group of players can run a fun game right out of the books without having to houserule everything or break out the magical tea. This is not something any game can do right now but that's no reason not try for it.

The thing is that the grognard hivemind on this form can't seem to grasp this concept. When we point out problems with rules of any kind they pitch a huge fit and call us autistic. Declan was a sockpuppet and a troll but Benoist set up an entire thread for him to troll in and then defended him from criticism. If I started a thread labeled 2e is the game of choice for assholes I would be banned on the spot and rightly so.

My hands aren't clean but I only responded with insults when people were being insulting and generally try to also answer their argument. The grognard hivemind on the other hand uses insults to dismiss peoples arguments, and that's not cool.

Quote from: Lord Mistborn;578520If One Horse Town is going to close all the thread that "denners" frequent he might as well go whole hog and start banning them.

Don't be like that.

Be like the guys who want to integrate into a new site they've recently discovered.  

Engage in actual discussions, rather than dick-waving contests. Talk about your gaming experiences that don't crap on the user-base here. Regale us with your house-rules (you use them, right?). Talk about your campaigns and the cool characters you played. Post new monsters and spells.

In fact, do pretty much anything but continually antagonise a largely old-school board.

How hard can it be?

Quote from: Sacrosanct;578503I expect you to try to position yourself as the victim in a minute, and to ignore all of these examples of you doing behavior that you have said you don't do.

Quote from: Lord Mistborn;578520The thing is that the grognard hivemind on this form can't seem to grasp this concept. When we point out problems with rules of any kind they pitch a huge fit and call us autistic. Declan was a sockpuppet and a troll but Benoist set up an entire thread for him to troll in and then defended him from criticism. If I started a thread labeled 2e is the game of choice for assholes I would be banned on the spot and rightly so.

My hands aren't clean but I only responded with insults when people were being insulting and generally try to also answer their argument. The grognard hivemind on the other hand uses insults to dismiss peoples arguments, and that's not cool.

:boohoo:

Quote from: One Horse Town;578521Don't be like that.

Be like the guys who want to integrate into a new site they've recently discovered.  

Engage in actual discussions, rather than dick-waving contests. Talk about your gaming experiences that don't crap on the user-base here. Regale us with your house-rules (you use them, right?). Talk about your campaigns and the cool characters you played. Post new monsters and spells.

In fact, do pretty much anything but continually antagonise a largely old-school board.

How hard can it be?

I willing to be civil as soon as the other posters are, heck  I've been reducing my personal attacks since I signed up. Are you saying that the regulars on this form are incapable of having a mature discussion of game design.

Quote from: RandallS;578518One thing I've learned from the Den Invasion (at least for the denners posting here) is that the following two rules seems to be true:

1) If the RAW can be interpreted as allowing the player to do something, the GM must allow it or denners consider him a dick GM.  

2) If the RAW can be interpreted as giving the GM power over a character (not allowing all prestige classes in 3.x, not allowing a cleric his choice of spells in 1e/2e -- both things the RAW saying the GM should do) denners consider him a a dick GM if he follows the rule and doing so interferes with what they want for their character.

Basically, any GM who does not allow a player to walk all over them, the setting, and/or the other players is a dick GM -- whether the GM is following the RAW or not when he does so does not seem to really enter into it.

Stop straw-manning I'm on record as not advocating all RAW all the time

Just because the GM can do something dose not mean he should do that thing. Everything I've said about PrC's applies to Cleric spells. If the DM is a controlling jackass, the he will be a controlling jackass regardless of RAW.

Let me go on record that any rule that gives the DM unwarranted power over a players choice of class, spell, or feat is a problematic rule.

And Sarc do you want me to be an asshole, because I thought I was doing the mature thing by trying to unilaterally disarm my personal attacks

Quote from: Lord Mistborn;578523Are you saying that the regulars on this form are incapable of having a mature discussion of game design.

I'll just leave this hanging here. I need say no more.

Quote from: One Horse Town;578528I'll just leave this hanging here. I need say no more.

Sorry I didn't prepare Detect Sarcasm today.

Are you saying if I start a thread for discussing game design than it will always dissolve into trolling regardless of what I do.