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Thoughts Provoked by the Den Invasion(TM)

Started by Spike, August 19, 2012, 01:56:25 AM

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Lord Mistborn

#180
August 28, 2012, 08:58:19 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;577817C'est la vie

What disappoints me is these are debates I've seen and participated in on the old WotC boards, Giantitp, and several other boards. It's like the people who lost the debates there have all washed up here and have completely closed their minds to differing points of view.
Quote from: Me;576460As much as this debacle of a thread has been an embarrassment for me personally (and it has ^_^\' ). I salute you mister unintelligible troll guy. You ran as far to the extreme as possible on the anti-3e thing and Benoist still defended you against my criticism. Good job.

Kuroth

#181
August 28, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: Lord Mistborn;577815It seems that all the thunderdome thread have imploded mostly due to people from this form ragequting.

What surprises me is that people here didn't know what sort of tactics the TGD folks would employ in advance. They seem intuitively obvious to me.

If the thunderdome is no longer and option then I don't think Kaelik, MGuy, or myself can "prove" anything. If we only talk rules then you call us names and acuse us of white room wanking. If we bring up anacdotes they are dismissed as examples of a bad DM. If we try to simulate play as best we can then one of you flips the table before we can reach a conclusion.

The only thing I've learnd here is to never game with grognards regarless of edition, and that older editions are not for me.

You are welcome to play in any non-D&D campaign anytime.  You have too much baggage with D&D.  You need to take a break from obsessing about it.  Life is too short.

Peregrin

#182
August 28, 2012, 09:08:22 PM
Thoughts provoked by this thread:

1) Is Mistborn's avatar a Touhou char?

2) I need to remember to check out Rolemaster.
"In a way, the Lands of Dream are far more brutal than the worlds of most mainstream games. All of the games set there have a bittersweetness that I find much harder to take than the ridiculous adolescent posturing of so-called \'grittily realistic\' games. So maybe one reason I like them as a setting is because they are far more like the real world: colourful, crazy, full of strange creatures and people, eternal and yet changing, deeply beautiful and sometimes profoundly bitter."

Lord Mistborn

#183
August 28, 2012, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: Kuroth;577820You are welcome to play in any non-D&D campaign anytime.  You have too much baggage with D&D.  You need to take a break from obsessing about it.  Life is too short.

I really can't think of any game that gives me what I want the same way as 3.5. The game I'm in right now sucks but since I'm posting it to the internet I sort of feel obligated. Hopefully the other player get sick of the Dm's bullshit before it becomes a big deal.
Quote from: Peregrin;5778211) Is Mistborn's avatar a Touhou char?

Yep, Flandre Scarlet.
Quote from: Me;576460As much as this debacle of a thread has been an embarrassment for me personally (and it has ^_^\' ). I salute you mister unintelligible troll guy. You ran as far to the extreme as possible on the anti-3e thing and Benoist still defended you against my criticism. Good job.

One Horse Town

#184
August 28, 2012, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Peregrin;5778212) I need to remember to check out Rolemaster.

Yes you do.

Lord Mistborn

#185
August 28, 2012, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: Peregrin;5778212) I need to remember to check out Rolemaster.

Is that the one with the crazy fumble charts

because I have rule that anyone who takes out fumbles charts in my presence has to eat them
Quote from: Me;576460As much as this debacle of a thread has been an embarrassment for me personally (and it has ^_^\' ). I salute you mister unintelligible troll guy. You ran as far to the extreme as possible on the anti-3e thing and Benoist still defended you against my criticism. Good job.

Peregrin

#186
August 28, 2012, 09:31:50 PM
Quote from: Lord Mistborn;577822Yep, Flandre Scarlet.

Thought so.

Quote from: One Horse Town;577823Yes you do.

Months ago I would've said "Nah, not enough space for new books."  Unfortunately my family saw fit to gift me a Kindle for Christmas, which means I've been blowing my disposable income on PDFs instead.

At least my ongoing education in games gets to continue.  Having three active groups helps, too, especially when they're willing to try new (or old) games.

Quote from: Lord Mistborn;577824Is that the one with the crazy fumble charts

because I have rule that anyone who takes out fumbles charts in my presence has to eat them

I have a rule that if your system has more than a paragraph on doors, you have to eat the corebook. ;)
"In a way, the Lands of Dream are far more brutal than the worlds of most mainstream games. All of the games set there have a bittersweetness that I find much harder to take than the ridiculous adolescent posturing of so-called \'grittily realistic\' games. So maybe one reason I like them as a setting is because they are far more like the real world: colourful, crazy, full of strange creatures and people, eternal and yet changing, deeply beautiful and sometimes profoundly bitter."

Libertad

#187
August 28, 2012, 09:32:21 PM Last Edit: August 28, 2012, 09:38:53 PM by Libertad
Quote from: Lord Mistborn;577815It seems that all the thunderdome thread have imploded mostly due to people from this form ragequting.

What surprises me is that people here didn't know what sort of tactics the TGD folks would employ in advance. They seem intuitively obvious to me.

If the thunderdome is no longer and option then I don't think Kaelik, MGuy, or myself can "prove" anything. If we only talk rules then you call us names and acuse us of white room wanking. If we bring up anacdotes they are dismissed as examples of a bad DM. If we try to simulate play as best we can then one of you flips the table before we can reach a conclusion.

The only thing I've learnd here is to never game with grognards regarless of edition, and that older editions are not for me.


Quote from: Lord Mistborn;577818What disappoints me is these are debates I've seen and participated in on the old WotC boards, Giantitp, and several other boards. It's like the people who lost the debates there have all washed up here and have completely closed their minds to differing points of view.

I think the Gaming Den's bad reputation and Kaelik's hostile posting style are part of why there's trouble convincing others of their viewpoints.  There is hostility from RPG Site posters as well, and mutual aggression shuts down debates before they begin.  I do agree with several of the TGD's posts about class balance and Fighters vs. Wizards, I just think that the atmosphere generated worked against them.

Bedrockbrendan

#188
August 28, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: Lord Mistborn;577818What disappoints me is these are debates I've seen and participated in on the old WotC boards, Giantitp, and several other boards. It's like the people who lost the debates there have all washed up here and have completely closed their minds to differing points of view.

Your quest for a worthy foe will take you elsewhere I suppose.

Doom

#189
August 28, 2012, 10:06:18 PM
One can hope. And pray (but only because doing so ticks 'em off).
(taken during hurricane winds)

A nice education blog.

StormBringer

#190
August 29, 2012, 12:01:28 AM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;577833Your quest for a worthy foe will take you elsewhere I suppose.
From your keyboard to God's ears.
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

\'Let them call me rebel, and welcome, I have no concern for it, but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul.\'
- Thomas Paine
\'Everything doesn\'t need

Marleycat

#191
August 29, 2012, 01:11:44 AM Last Edit: August 29, 2012, 01:26:35 AM by Marleycat
Quote from: StormBringer;577861From your keyboard to God's ears.

Seconded. How many times do I have to say I neither care for and actively don't want their notion of "balance" in the games I play? It's like talking to my customers.  No means no. And sorry you think something that is an issue isn't an issue to those that don't do selfish and stupid things.  How many times does someone have to say they neither want or prefer a "denner" notion of balance in their games.  To a casual gamer like myself you're speaking Greek and about nonissues except to people that live in basements and have no clue what a shower is used for. "No" actually means "no" in the real world.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

StormBringer

#192
August 29, 2012, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;577880Seconded. How many times do I have to say I neither care for and actively don't want their notion of "balance" in the games I play? It's like talking to my customers.  No means no. And sorry you think something that is an issue isn't an issue to those that don't do selfish and stupid things.  How many times does someone have to say they neither want or prefer a "denner" notion of balance in their games.  To a casual gamer like myself you're speaking Greek and about nonissues except to people that live in basements and have no clue what a shower is used for. "No" actually means "no" in the real world.
It's the entirely solipsistic way every random statement they make is supposed to be an axiom that gets to me.  Like there is no standard of proof or need to provide evidence in support of these statements, but they demand the highest level of evidence from others because they really do think their ideas are a fundamental truth of the (gaming) universe.
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

\'Let them call me rebel, and welcome, I have no concern for it, but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul.\'
- Thomas Paine
\'Everything doesn\'t need

Exploderwizard

#193
August 30, 2012, 09:11:08 AM
Quote from: StormBringer;578203It's the entirely solipsistic way every random statement they make is supposed to be an axiom that gets to me.  Like there is no standard of proof or need to provide evidence in support of these statements, but they demand the highest level of evidence from others because they really do think their ideas are a fundamental truth of the (gaming) universe.

Heh. A longwinded way of saying their shit doesn't stink.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

StormBringer

#194
August 30, 2012, 10:08:45 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;578297Heh. A longwinded way of saying their shit doesn't stink.
:hatsoff:

Which is entirely expected from, I dunno...  late teens to early 20s?  I am utterly baffled at the level of societal failure that allows that kind of behaviour to continue after one turns 24 and still permits them to survive.  St Darwin protect us!  :)
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

\'Let them call me rebel, and welcome, I have no concern for it, but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul.\'
- Thomas Paine
\'Everything doesn\'t need
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