Lessee...
-- Combat as a centerpiece. Yup. Combat's fun. But for me, leaving non-combat conflicts and resolution as an afterthought in game design just won't do for me anymore.
-- Player who try to nix/defame any race or type that they PERSONALLY wouldn't play. Animal-folk haters, I've looking at you.

Quote from: Sigmund;281989I also am immediately put off by any setting that present humans as somehow inferior and/or more corrupt than all the other races (curse you Tolkien), so much so that the last campaign (true20, my home-brew) I ran was humans only for the PCs.

Quick duck in... followed by a quick duck out.

Don't blame Tolkien. Mankind was the highest creation of the One, the only race able to act outside the Music and destined to go beyond the bounds of the world unlike the Elves or Dwarves.

People also tend to forget the Kin Slaying (elves) or the Petty Dwarves of Tolkien btw.


Edit: Oh, as to what's been done to death- unneeded and cheap profanity on rpg boards (referencing the title of this thread).

Quote from: gleichman;282006Quick duck in... followed by a quick duck out.

Don't blame Tolkien. Mankind was the highest creation of the One, the only race able to act outside the Music and destined to go beyond the bounds of the world unlike the Elves or Dwarves.

People also tend to forget the Kin Slaying (elves) or the Petty Dwarves of Tolkien btw.


Edit: Oh, as to what's been done to death- unneeded and cheap profanity on rpg boards (referencing the title of this thread).

Yeah, I know, what I'm referring to is the humans being the easiest race for Sauron to corrupt, not the pseudo-mythology junk that was shoved in there in Silmarillion. It's all straight from the imagination of Tolkien, so yeah, I'll blame the guy if I want. I still like the stories, but I don't want those ideas in my games anymore, thanks.

Quote from: Sigmund;282062Yeah, I know, what I'm referring to is the humans being the easiest race for Sauron to corrupt, not the pseudo-mythology junk that was shoved in there in Silmarillion.

Edit: Removed. Not worth it.

Quote from: gleichman;282006Edit: Oh, as to what's been done to death- unneeded and cheap profanity on rpg boards (referencing the title of this thread).

:confused:  Do people not casually use "profanity" where you are?  Because its awfully common for a lot of us - that's just the way a lot of people talk.

Quote from: jgants;282087:confused:  Do people not casually use "profanity" where you are?  Because its awfully common for a lot of us - that's just the way a lot of people talk.

Maybe that's why it's "been done to death".

Just a suggestion.

Quote from: gleichman;282091Maybe that's why it's "been done to death".

Just a suggestion.

He's right.

 Cussing just because you can is getting tired.

The words start to lose whatever impact they had in the first place.



- Ed C.

Steampunk "elements" in fantasy settings are getting very repetitive.

Quote from: gleichman;282069Edit: Removed. Not worth it.

Good choice.

Another new version of AD&D. I still use the First edition DMG I bought in 1982.

Quote from: Sigmund;281987I don't mind vampires as stuff to be killed, especially if they're the evil, nasty, disgusting, terrifying monsters they're supposed to be. Angst my ass.

The Rotwang! Dictionary defines vampire as "A great place to store sharp wooden things".

Quote from: jgants;282087:confused:  Do people not casually use "profanity" where you are?  Because its awfully common for a lot of us - that's just the way a lot of people talk.

I'm a cook.  I fucking swear.  If someone has a problem with it, tough shit.  I'll keep it under my tongue when I'm in church, and this ain't no church.


Back on the topic so as not to feed yet another of gleichman's vainglorious returns:

- Anti-humanism.  Any game where humans aren't as awesome as humans are.  I'm a cynical fucking bastard, but I've always gone more towards the Dr. Who attitude towards the value of humans.  I like that notion of us all being capable of both incredible will and heroism, but also the basest greed and evil.  It's neat, and a lot more interesting than "humans suck, species X is so much better".  I especially hate self-hating players who refuse to play a regular goddamn human in any bloody game even if it's modern Earth circa 1995.

-  "Epic fantasy", where "epic" actually means lots of dull ass unnecessary detail and exposition as the author desperately tries to live up to Tolkien's work, and fails utterly because he didn't spend decades studying medieval folklore.  Or overexplains everything with a lot of technobabble that makes me think I'm looking at a bad SF novel instead of a fantasy game.

-  Good Drow.  Fuck Drow, and fuck good ones doubly so.  I've only ever played a Drow once or twice in my D&D career, and every one of them was an evil, manipulative, self-serving bitch, the way a goddamn Drow is supposed to be.  If you don't have the fucking cajones to at least play Neutral Evil, don't play a goddamn evil race.

-  Exterminatus.  I'm sick of the cliche that the Imperium just goes around sandblasting every bloody world with the slightest hint of anything it doesn't like.  It's stupid, and it isn't even true in the setting.

Quote from: J Arcane;282226Back on the topic so as not to feed yet another of gleichman's vainglorious returns:

If you didn't want to feed it, you would have kept silent. So you're either a liar or your stupid- or you're both.

I'll bet on both.

Go ahead and respond now, and prove that you're at least the first.

Quote from: gleichman;282229Go ahead and respond now, and prove that you're at least the first.

Not here, dude.

Quote from: One Horse Town;282230Not here, dude.

Of course.

Then again I have no need to continue, J Arcane well either prove me correct on his own- or shut up and stop baiting. Either suits me.


As to the thread:

Besides profanity...

Shades of Gray, it's even more cliche and over-used now than the classic good/evil conflicts of tradition. And far more boring.