Greetings!

At a recent game I ran at my local game store, one of the group member's associates--a young woman--provided some entertaining commentary in regards to my campaign. The group of player characters had just been victorious in clearing out a dungeon complex that was full of Ogres, Goblins, and Orcs. The dark, evil humanoids had been led by a group of evil, Pagan Witches. Some of the witches had managed to escape, while some were killed in the fighting. Three of the evil witches had been captured by the party, who had decided to burn the witches at the stake. The witches were burned alive at the stake, and most of the Goblins and Orcs were slaughtered. Some of the Orcs and Ogres that survived, were taken prisoner, and held under guard in nearby, improvised stockade camps.

The young Ogres, Orcs, and Goblins were taken away from their surviving families, and taken away to be educated properly in civilization and proper religion. The adult members of their families are being held in these stockade camps, and sent out on work parties, performing hard labour in farming, road-building, mining, and ditch-digging.

Meanwhile, the dungeon complex has been cleaned out, fortified, and restocked with weapons and supplies, and some new surface buildings, as well as subterranean works, to build the place up into a proper armed stronghold and trading post for future forays into the dark wilderness.

When one of the members was talking to his woman associate--she is a gamer, though not a member of the group at my table--she said that "This campaign seems full of hatred, racism, misogyny, and colonialism!"

*Laughing* Ahh, well, it seemed to me that the group of Player Characters were involved in fighting against evil forces, forces of darkness and savagery, and seeking to make the area safe for civilized people.

I told her, "What do you suppose the Ogres, Orcs, and Goblins, and the Witches, would have done to the player group and the local community if they had been victorious?"

Yes, there really are gamers out there that cheer for the villains! It is mind-boggling, to me. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

She's a cunt.  If she's married, its the lesbian death bed and she's probably the one beating her wife.  She can only exist in todays society due to the dead men she and her freaks walk on every day and spit on whenever they can.  Times are getting tough, these freaks are going to end up starving to death due to famine or will die off in a riot.  Nothing of worth will be lost.

/soapbox

The point of monster races are to be monsters.  This is a bit childish, but it makes it easy to be moral when the enemy truly are despicable. 

That's why bad guys need to be bad.  It's easy to kill orcs when they eat people. 

I think your players (and maybe you too) are going soft:

The only good Goblin, Orc, Ogre, Witch, etc is a dead one.

Quote from: SHARK on July 07, 2024, 09:54:40 PMWhen one of the members was talking to his woman associate--she is a gamer, though not a member of the group at my table--she said that "This campaign seems full of hatred, racism, misogyny, and colonialism!"

I would say "Is there room for one more at your table?  That sounds like a game I would love to play!"

Sounds like a cool campaign to me. Getting loot and killing bad guys are what its all about. I don't play D&D to hang out at Starbucks and NOT go on adventures. These people are only gaming in order to shit in someone else's bed.

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on July 07, 2024, 10:41:55 PMShe's a cunt.  If she's married, its the lesbian death bed and she's probably the one beating her wife.  She can only exist in todays society due to the dead men she and her freaks walk on every day and spit on whenever they can.  Times are getting tough, these freaks are going to end up starving to death due to famine or will die off in a riot.  Nothing of worth will be lost.

/soapbox

Greetings!

Yeah, she is not a lesbian, but damn, she sure hits a good many of the Liberal, Woke checkboxes. Kinda plump, kinda mousy, glasses, kinda intellectual, kinda educated, some tats, some piercings, and full Woke retard.

Her hair is normal coloured though! *Laughing*

Yeah, evidently she was a member of a different group that one of my players was also a member of before joining my table, so that is how he came into association with this woman.

She will definitely be suffering when a crisis comes for sure. She also brings in lattes from Starbucks all the time, too.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: weirdguy564 on July 07, 2024, 10:45:35 PMThe point of monster races are to be monsters.  This is a bit childish, but it makes it easy to be moral when the enemy truly are despicable. 

That's why bad guys need to be bad.  It's easy to kill orcs when they eat people.

Greetings!

Yeah, I agree entirely, Weirdguy564!

I admit, however, that yes, I am a great believer in absolute values, Good and Evil, and in campaigns, often encourage a more harsh and brutal approach to life, relationships, and especially warfare--certainly an approach that is distinctly pre-Enlightenment and very much Pre-Modern in nature, I do occasionally allow for the possibility of redemption, or encountering various members of Evil Races that may, with some empathy, and often hard work and effort--can actually function as Non-Evil savages and be relatively "Civilized."

So, while there are some members of the group that wanted to just kill them all--there were also members that argued that the group should be merciful to the survivors, and that the group should invest some efforts into redeeming such creatures.

Of course, me being the helpful DM, I have reasonably likeable NPC's that line up with *both sides* of such arguments. *Laughing* Which, while perhaps less than helpful, is nonetheless entertaining for everyone at the table. *Laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Crusader X on July 08, 2024, 06:26:32 AM

Quote from: SHARK on July 07, 2024, 09:54:40 PMWhen one of the members was talking to his woman associate--she is a gamer, though not a member of the group at my table--she said that "This campaign seems full of hatred, racism, misogyny, and colonialism!"

I would say "Is there room for one more at your table?  That sounds like a game I would love to play!"

Greetings!

Outstanding, my friend! Yes, you would be very welcome!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: GeekyBugle on July 08, 2024, 01:43:22 AMI think your players (and maybe you too) are going soft:

The only good Goblin, Orc, Ogre, Witch, etc is a dead one.

Greetings!

Yes, my friend, I am inclined to agree. In the campaign, as DM, I of course provide NPC's that support both killing them all--and those that argue for the merits of sparing the surviving adults and especially the young humanoids.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Exploderwizard on July 08, 2024, 07:34:09 AMSounds like a cool campaign to me. Getting loot and killing bad guys are what its all about. I don't play D&D to hang out at Starbucks and NOT go on adventures. These people are only gaming in order to shit in someone else's bed.

Greetings!

*LAUGHING* So true, Exploderwizard! Yes, my friend, the woman in question--the Woke woman gamer--also *loves* going to Starbucks all the time. She likes to argue for the player characters hanging out in coffee shops and going to Ren Faire parties in the forest, where everyone can dance with the elves and "get their freak on".

I described various NPC allies of the Player Group as providing strict discipline and teaching to a large group of young Ogres in a Ogre Farming Camp--and two of the Players are involved in this project--and the Woke gamer woman said that, right there, was a HUGE example of my campaign "Platforming Colonialism."

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

QuoteI told her, "What do you suppose the Ogres, Orcs, and Goblins, and the Witches, would have done to the player group and the local community if they had been victorious?"

Had the Witches won, they would have castrated all the Human, Male Fighters. They would have founded a "Wizard's School" that everyone's children would be forced to atend, and molested the students.  They would have replaced all the guild professionals with orcs and ogres, and there would be a Starbucks on every corner. 

The next Campaign would culminate with a gay prom.

Have some fun with the cunt. Have Orcroast coffee open up in the country.  Have the citizenry love it.  Have them make money, lots of money.  Have the nations productivity go down.  Have the orcs using the blood of demon children to make the coffee additive and they are getting everyone addicted before the horde comes to kill them all.  Give the Orcroast a specific symbol, a mermaid tailed orc maiden.  Have the orcs wear that symbol on their chests as they are killing the women and children.  Have orcroast close overnight and then you see people vomiting and unable to move by afternoon without their demon blood coffee.

Lets see how long before she loses it having her favorite company lampooned while having orcs coming in and destroying everything.

Bonus: if you can do a latin american accent for the orcs do it.

Quote from: SHARK on July 08, 2024, 10:23:49 AM

Quote from: Exploderwizard on July 08, 2024, 07:34:09 AMSounds like a cool campaign to me. Getting loot and killing bad guys are what its all about. I don't play D&D to hang out at Starbucks and NOT go on adventures. These people are only gaming in order to shit in someone else's bed.

Greetings!

*LAUGHING* So true, Exploderwizard! Yes, my friend, the woman in question--the Woke woman gamer--also *loves* going to Starbucks all the time. She likes to argue for the player characters hanging out in coffee shops and going to Ren Faire parties in the forest, where everyone can dance with the elves and "get their freak on".

I described various NPC allies of the Player Group as providing strict discipline and teaching to a large group of young Ogres in a Ogre Farming Camp--and two of the Players are involved in this project--and the Woke gamer woman said that, right there, was a HUGE example of my campaign "Platforming Colonialism."

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Platforming Colonialism?  Fuck'em they're ogres.

What's wrong with colonialism, first of all. I bet this woman thinks South Africa would look like the Jetsons if it wasn't for those damn Dutch keeping down the natives. It's ALWAYS the white westerners who are the issue, right? Self-loathing liberals are the absolute worst.

That out of the way, if this broad isn't playing in your game, maybe tell her to fuck off and stop commenting on it. People like her are literally destroying this hobby by saying absolutely retarded bullshit like that and making regular gamers capitulate to their "demands". It's just so obnoxious.