Thirsty Sword Lesbians, no, really

Chris24601 · October 17, 2020, 08:15:14 PM

Quote from: sureshot on October 17, 2020, 01:00:20 PM
When a posters says "why are you bothered by this" my response is and will always be "why do you care and we are allowed to criticize an rpg".

Mine would be "why are you bothered that I'm bothered by this?"

Spinachcat · October 17, 2020, 08:44:27 PM

But Chris, why are you bothered that he's bothered if you're bothered by this?

Too much bothering in this thread, not enough hotness!

Darrin Kelley · October 17, 2020, 08:53:56 PM

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Spinachcat · October 17, 2020, 08:56:12 PM

Quote from: Dimitrios on October 17, 2020, 09:52:07 AMBut some of us think that the world would be a better place with less toxic culture wars bullshit contaminating everything, and EH seems to be dedicated to encouraging more.

I wonder if the "toxic culture wars bullshit" is an overall net financial positive or negative at the end of the day. There's evidence for "go woke, go broke", but Burn Loot Murder made billions and Evil Asshat's enjoying a great KS haul.

I imagine the real economic numbers won't be truly known for years, and only with tremendous deep dive non-partisan research. AKA, about 3 days after we all get our magic ponies.

fixable · October 18, 2020, 04:11:20 AM

Quote from: Spinachcat on October 15, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
It's worthwhile to note the SJW freakshow crowd ponied up $60k so far.

Clearly there's a paying audience, though it might be an already existing Twitter audience that's been cultivated by Hicks, the artist and the author.

Quote from: fixable on October 15, 2020, 02:36:49 AMWhy is this an issue for you all?

Because of this part:

"This game is not for fascists, TERFs, or other bigots. The team behind Thirsty Sword Lesbians supports racial liberation, intersectional feminism, and queer liberation. We love and respect transgender people, nonbinary people, intersex people, and women. This game is a joyous celebration of lives and identities otherwise marginalized. If you don't agree, fix your heart before sharing a table with other people."

Anyone is free to make anything they like. Want to make the Pygmy RPG and only sell it to pygmies? Sure, go for it. But when the publisher promotes their game by shitting on potential customers???

It's not even a game that welcomes all women or all lesbians. Muff diving and flannel ain't enough credentials for the Evil Asshat crew. Any conservative lesbians and lesbians who a pro-women (instead of cheering dudes with boobs) aren't welcome.

Do we really want identity politics championed in the hobby?

And before you make any bitch noise about this "bothering me", I've given up on the hobby as something that brings people together. Nope, everyone to your tribe and only your tribe sits at your table.

As I've said before, all I need for my "RPG hobby" to exist 3-5 nightmarish deplorables who want to play twice a month. Considering my gaming crew blew off CoronaChan and kept tossing dice, I'm pretty sure "fascists, TERFs and other bigots" will be pretty easy to recruit into the future.

Well if you have a problem with the idea that a game is not for fascists, then that is your problem. If you choose to provide comfort to fascist beliefs then you got to reconcile that on your own. Don't blame an independent RPG for that.

Its not about identity politics. It is about facists have ZERO place in our society.

If you have comforting ideas towards fascists then you are going to have to pay the price for it. If it means being ostracized from real connection from other people because you are an asshole, fascist, Nazi, piece of shit than so be it. You deserve it.

If you are a fascist, then get the f*ck out of our hobby. You don't belong here. I'll show you the door.

Ratman_tf · October 18, 2020, 04:15:14 AM

Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:11:20 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on October 15, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
It's worthwhile to note the SJW freakshow crowd ponied up $60k so far.

Clearly there's a paying audience, though it might be an already existing Twitter audience that's been cultivated by Hicks, the artist and the author.

Quote from: fixable on October 15, 2020, 02:36:49 AMWhy is this an issue for you all?

Because of this part:

"This game is not for fascists, TERFs, or other bigots. The team behind Thirsty Sword Lesbians supports racial liberation, intersectional feminism, and queer liberation. We love and respect transgender people, nonbinary people, intersex people, and women. This game is a joyous celebration of lives and identities otherwise marginalized. If you don't agree, fix your heart before sharing a table with other people."

Anyone is free to make anything they like. Want to make the Pygmy RPG and only sell it to pygmies? Sure, go for it. But when the publisher promotes their game by shitting on potential customers???

It's not even a game that welcomes all women or all lesbians. Muff diving and flannel ain't enough credentials for the Evil Asshat crew. Any conservative lesbians and lesbians who a pro-women (instead of cheering dudes with boobs) aren't welcome.

Do we really want identity politics championed in the hobby?

And before you make any bitch noise about this "bothering me", I've given up on the hobby as something that brings people together. Nope, everyone to your tribe and only your tribe sits at your table.

As I've said before, all I need for my "RPG hobby" to exist 3-5 nightmarish deplorables who want to play twice a month. Considering my gaming crew blew off CoronaChan and kept tossing dice, I'm pretty sure "fascists, TERFs and other bigots" will be pretty easy to recruit into the future.

Well if you have a problem with the idea that a game is not for fascists, then that is your problem. If you choose to provide comfort to fascist beliefs then you got to reconcile that on your own. Don't blame an independent RPG for that.

Its not about identity politics. It is about facists have ZERO place in our society.

If you have comforting ideas towards fascists then you are going to have to pay the price for it. If it means being ostracized from real connection from other people because you are an asshole, fascist, Nazi, piece of shit than so be it. You deserve it.

If you are a fascist, then get the f*ck out of our hobby. You don't belong here. I'll show you the door.

The issue is I don't trust Evil Hat's (and some others) judgement on who is a fascist.

fixable · October 18, 2020, 04:31:07 AM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 18, 2020, 04:15:14 AM
Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:11:20 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on October 15, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
It's worthwhile to note the SJW freakshow crowd ponied up $60k so far.

Clearly there's a paying audience, though it might be an already existing Twitter audience that's been cultivated by Hicks, the artist and the author.

Quote from: fixable on October 15, 2020, 02:36:49 AMWhy is this an issue for you all?

Because of this part:

"This game is not for fascists, TERFs, or other bigots. The team behind Thirsty Sword Lesbians supports racial liberation, intersectional feminism, and queer liberation. We love and respect transgender people, nonbinary people, intersex people, and women. This game is a joyous celebration of lives and identities otherwise marginalized. If you don't agree, fix your heart before sharing a table with other people."

Anyone is free to make anything they like. Want to make the Pygmy RPG and only sell it to pygmies? Sure, go for it. But when the publisher promotes their game by shitting on potential customers???

It's not even a game that welcomes all women or all lesbians. Muff diving and flannel ain't enough credentials for the Evil Asshat crew. Any conservative lesbians and lesbians who a pro-women (instead of cheering dudes with boobs) aren't welcome.

Do we really want identity politics championed in the hobby?

And before you make any bitch noise about this "bothering me", I've given up on the hobby as something that brings people together. Nope, everyone to your tribe and only your tribe sits at your table.

As I've said before, all I need for my "RPG hobby" to exist 3-5 nightmarish deplorables who want to play twice a month. Considering my gaming crew blew off CoronaChan and kept tossing dice, I'm pretty sure "fascists, TERFs and other bigots" will be pretty easy to recruit into the future.

Well if you have a problem with the idea that a game is not for fascists, then that is your problem. If you choose to provide comfort to fascist beliefs then you got to reconcile that on your own. Don't blame an independent RPG for that.

Its not about identity politics. It is about facists have ZERO place in our society.

If you have comforting ideas towards fascists then you are going to have to pay the price for it. If it means being ostracized from real connection from other people because you are an asshole, fascist, Nazi, piece of shit than so be it. You deserve it.

If you are a fascist, then get the f*ck out of our hobby. You don't belong here. I'll show you the door.

The issue is I don't trust Evil Hat's (and some others) judgement on who is a fascist.

Well the first step to determining who is fascist is looking at the actions taken.

Aggressiveness towards an RPG just because it caters to LGBTQ ideals is a pretty obvious clue.

Melan · October 18, 2020, 04:43:47 AM

Considering the current definition of "fascist" seems to encompass all Trump voters, that's 46.1% of the US voting population, and possibly more if we go by the even more looney bin takes. It means nothing.

ponta1010 · October 18, 2020, 04:51:20 AM

Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:31:07 AM
Aggressiveness towards an RPG just because it caters to LGBTQ ideals is a pretty obvious clue.

Good, something we can probably agree on.

Fortunately if I look at what people have posted, a large number of the posters here aren't aggressive towards the rpg's existence.

What they do object to is the espoused values of the company creating said item!

Ratman_tf · October 18, 2020, 04:54:20 AM

Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:31:07 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 18, 2020, 04:15:14 AM
Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:11:20 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on October 15, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
It's worthwhile to note the SJW freakshow crowd ponied up $60k so far.

Clearly there's a paying audience, though it might be an already existing Twitter audience that's been cultivated by Hicks, the artist and the author.

Quote from: fixable on October 15, 2020, 02:36:49 AMWhy is this an issue for you all?

Because of this part:

"This game is not for fascists, TERFs, or other bigots. The team behind Thirsty Sword Lesbians supports racial liberation, intersectional feminism, and queer liberation. We love and respect transgender people, nonbinary people, intersex people, and women. This game is a joyous celebration of lives and identities otherwise marginalized. If you don't agree, fix your heart before sharing a table with other people."

Anyone is free to make anything they like. Want to make the Pygmy RPG and only sell it to pygmies? Sure, go for it. But when the publisher promotes their game by shitting on potential customers???

It's not even a game that welcomes all women or all lesbians. Muff diving and flannel ain't enough credentials for the Evil Asshat crew. Any conservative lesbians and lesbians who a pro-women (instead of cheering dudes with boobs) aren't welcome.

Do we really want identity politics championed in the hobby?

And before you make any bitch noise about this "bothering me", I've given up on the hobby as something that brings people together. Nope, everyone to your tribe and only your tribe sits at your table.

As I've said before, all I need for my "RPG hobby" to exist 3-5 nightmarish deplorables who want to play twice a month. Considering my gaming crew blew off CoronaChan and kept tossing dice, I'm pretty sure "fascists, TERFs and other bigots" will be pretty easy to recruit into the future.

Well if you have a problem with the idea that a game is not for fascists, then that is your problem. If you choose to provide comfort to fascist beliefs then you got to reconcile that on your own. Don't blame an independent RPG for that.

Its not about identity politics. It is about facists have ZERO place in our society.

If you have comforting ideas towards fascists then you are going to have to pay the price for it. If it means being ostracized from real connection from other people because you are an asshole, fascist, Nazi, piece of shit than so be it. You deserve it.

If you are a fascist, then get the f*ck out of our hobby. You don't belong here. I'll show you the door.

The issue is I don't trust Evil Hat's (and some others) judgement on who is a fascist.
Well the first step to determining who is fascist is looking at the actions taken.

Aggressiveness towards an RPG just because it caters to LGBTQ ideals is a pretty obvious clue.

That's not even close to fascism, or why people think the intro is shit. But thanks for playing.

fixable · October 18, 2020, 04:58:28 AM

Quote from: ponta1010 on October 18, 2020, 04:51:20 AM
Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:31:07 AM
Aggressiveness towards an RPG just because it caters to LGBTQ ideals is a pretty obvious clue.

Good, something we can probably agree on.

Fortunately if I look at what people have posted, a large number of the posters here aren't aggressive towards the rpg's existence.

What they do object to is the espoused values of the company creating said item!

Who cares about the values of the company that created said item?

I mean how does it hurt anyone that another company's values creates such a game?

fixable · October 18, 2020, 05:00:16 AM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 18, 2020, 04:54:20 AM
Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:31:07 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 18, 2020, 04:15:14 AM
Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:11:20 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on October 15, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
It's worthwhile to note the SJW freakshow crowd ponied up $60k so far.

Clearly there's a paying audience, though it might be an already existing Twitter audience that's been cultivated by Hicks, the artist and the author.

Quote from: fixable on October 15, 2020, 02:36:49 AMWhy is this an issue for you all?

Because of this part:

"This game is not for fascists, TERFs, or other bigots. The team behind Thirsty Sword Lesbians supports racial liberation, intersectional feminism, and queer liberation. We love and respect transgender people, nonbinary people, intersex people, and women. This game is a joyous celebration of lives and identities otherwise marginalized. If you don't agree, fix your heart before sharing a table with other people."

Anyone is free to make anything they like. Want to make the Pygmy RPG and only sell it to pygmies? Sure, go for it. But when the publisher promotes their game by shitting on potential customers???

It's not even a game that welcomes all women or all lesbians. Muff diving and flannel ain't enough credentials for the Evil Asshat crew. Any conservative lesbians and lesbians who a pro-women (instead of cheering dudes with boobs) aren't welcome.

Do we really want identity politics championed in the hobby?

And before you make any bitch noise about this "bothering me", I've given up on the hobby as something that brings people together. Nope, everyone to your tribe and only your tribe sits at your table.

As I've said before, all I need for my "RPG hobby" to exist 3-5 nightmarish deplorables who want to play twice a month. Considering my gaming crew blew off CoronaChan and kept tossing dice, I'm pretty sure "fascists, TERFs and other bigots" will be pretty easy to recruit into the future.

Well if you have a problem with the idea that a game is not for fascists, then that is your problem. If you choose to provide comfort to fascist beliefs then you got to reconcile that on your own. Don't blame an independent RPG for that.

Its not about identity politics. It is about facists have ZERO place in our society.

If you have comforting ideas towards fascists then you are going to have to pay the price for it. If it means being ostracized from real connection from other people because you are an asshole, fascist, Nazi, piece of shit than so be it. You deserve it.

If you are a fascist, then get the f*ck out of our hobby. You don't belong here. I'll show you the door.

The issue is I don't trust Evil Hat's (and some others) judgement on who is a fascist.
Well the first step to determining who is fascist is looking at the actions taken.

Aggressiveness towards an RPG just because it caters to LGBTQ ideals is a pretty obvious clue.

That's not even close to fascism, or why people think the intro is shit. But thanks for playing.

So what is right then?

What is your absolute best case scenario with regards to this situation?

fixable · October 18, 2020, 05:07:20 AM

Quote from: Spinachcat on October 17, 2020, 08:44:27 PM
But Chris, why are you bothered that he's bothered if you're bothered by this?

Too much bothering in this thread, not enough hotness!

Well this thread is all about being bothered about something stupid. Maybe better to just say it was a dumb thing to be bothered about and move on. I mean just stop, right. Just no need to get bent out of shape about this game.

Everyone just post: OH cool game. Good Luck. Maybe throw the author some monetary support.

And move on.

SHARK · October 18, 2020, 05:07:46 AM

Greetings!

Anyone that supports "Intersectional Feminism", Non-Binary, Intersex, Race Liberation and Queer Liberation ideas has clearly been brainwashed by Marxism. People that embrace Marxist ideology are poisonous and corrosive to society, and should be mocked and rejected from our hobby. Fuck the "Fascists". The real threat to our society and everything in it are Marxists. Marxists and SJW's are filthy, diseased rats chewing at the foundations of society, and seek to poison and corrupt everything they touch.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

S'mon · October 18, 2020, 05:09:49 AM

Quote from: fixable on October 18, 2020, 04:11:20 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on October 15, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
It's worthwhile to note the SJW freakshow crowd ponied up $60k so far.

Clearly there's a paying audience, though it might be an already existing Twitter audience that's been cultivated by Hicks, the artist and the author.

Quote from: fixable on October 15, 2020, 02:36:49 AMWhy is this an issue for you all?

Because of this part:

"This game is not for fascists, TERFs, or other bigots. The team behind Thirsty Sword Lesbians supports racial liberation, intersectional feminism, and queer liberation. We love and respect transgender people, nonbinary people, intersex people, and women. This game is a joyous celebration of lives and identities otherwise marginalized. If you don't agree, fix your heart before sharing a table with other people."

Anyone is free to make anything they like. Want to make the Pygmy RPG and only sell it to pygmies? Sure, go for it. But when the publisher promotes their game by shitting on potential customers???

It's not even a game that welcomes all women or all lesbians. Muff diving and flannel ain't enough credentials for the Evil Asshat crew. Any conservative lesbians and lesbians who a pro-women (instead of cheering dudes with boobs) aren't welcome.

Do we really want identity politics championed in the hobby?

And before you make any bitch noise about this "bothering me", I've given up on the hobby as something that brings people together. Nope, everyone to your tribe and only your tribe sits at your table.

As I've said before, all I need for my "RPG hobby" to exist 3-5 nightmarish deplorables who want to play twice a month. Considering my gaming crew blew off CoronaChan and kept tossing dice, I'm pretty sure "fascists, TERFs and other bigots" will be pretty easy to recruit into the future.

Well if you have a problem with the idea that a game is not for fascists, then that is your problem. If you choose to provide comfort to fascist beliefs then you got to reconcile that on your own. Don't blame an independent RPG for that.

Its not about identity politics. It is about facists have ZERO place in our society.

If you have comforting ideas towards fascists then you are going to have to pay the price for it. If it means being ostracized from real connection from other people because you are an asshole, fascist, Nazi, piece of shit than so be it. You deserve it.

If you are a fascist, then get the f*ck out of our hobby. You don't belong here. I'll show you the door.

And TERFS?