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In this thread, we are making a collectively designed setting made by everyone who can contribute to this thread. The setting can be used with any compatible system like 13th Age or Exalted and so on. One can say almost anything- 'There are ten billion people in this world and all of them are gods' is acceptable, as is 'the gods are dead'. Now, every good social activity needs rules that bind and structure the actions of the participants to avoid the social activity being torn apart by those who want to ruin others fun, and to give the contributors a guide about what to do next. There are six rules governing this thread.

1. This is a fantasy setting. Although some sci fi is allowed, this is primarily fantasy- gods, demons, and angels are expected here.
2. One cannot deny the contributions of another. You can't say that one person's post is myth, legend, or not real, or that everyone involved in it died and did nothing. All posts are real, valid, and affect the current state of the world. One cannot destroy the world, either.
3. One cannot make vulgar posts such as 'everyone was raped'. No sexual assault is allowed whatsoever, for that matter.
4. Related to this, every post must be serious. No jokes allowed!
5. Someone can expand on one other's post. For instance, adding that the god who made the world's name is Humbaba. Or something a bit more serious than that. It's in good fashion to note where others can expand on your post in the form of a question.. This, of course, has a limit. Only one expanding post can be made after every post.

As the thread creator, I will go first.

The Creation Of The World, and The Basis For The Magic System

The Aeons made the S'Dein, humans with godlike power borne by the Shards of Archetypes clinging to their souls.

(Why did they do this and what happens after?)

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 03:04:52 AM
In this thread, we are making a collectively designed setting made by everyone who can contribute to this thread. The setting can be used with any compatible system like 13th Age or Exalted and so on. One can say almost anything- 'There are ten billion people in this world and all of them are gods' is acceptable, as is 'the gods are dead'. Now, every good social activity needs rules that bind and structure the actions of the participants to avoid the social activity being torn apart by those who want to ruin others fun, and to give the contributors a guide about what to do next. There are six rules governing this thread.

1. This is a fantasy setting. Although some sci fi is allowed, this is primarily fantasy- gods, demons, and angels are expected here.
2. One cannot deny the contributions of another. You can't say that one person's post is myth, legend, or not real, or that everyone involved in it died and did nothing. All posts are real, valid, and affect the current state of the world. One cannot destroy the world, either.
3. One cannot make vulgar posts such as 'everyone was raped'. No sexual assault is allowed whatsoever, for that matter.
4. Related to this, every post must be serious. No jokes allowed!
5. We start from the beginning of the world to the current day, progressing at a moderate pace. Anyone who tries to slow down or speed up this pace has their posts invalidated. Anyone who tries to refer to any world post other than the newest one has their post invalidated.
6. Someone can expand on one other's post. For instance, adding that the god who made the world's name is Humbaba. Or something a bit more serious than that. It's in good fashion to note where others can expand on your post. This, of course, has a limit. Only one expanding post can be made after every post, in concordance with rule 5.

As the thread creator, I will go first.

The Creation Of The World, and The Basis For The Magic System

There was a being or a place or a concept that had no name, and so will be referred to as 'thing'. This 'thing' shed a 'tear'. From that 'tear' came the Aeons, beings of immense creative power. These Aeons were one and not one, many and one at the same time. The Aeons were called 'F' by 'thing', and 'F''s creative power made a byproduct. The Archetypes of the Universe, the 52 'Words' that define the Lower Domain. With these 52 Words, Heinmi was made, a race of creators much like the Aeons but limited by logic.

In their state that transcended mortality and rules, the Heinmi prospered. The Golden Age stretched on and on across time and space- but it came to an 'end'.

(this is a great place to expand!)

The Heinmi's natural state of existence was to seek an 'Icon' for a binding purpose. Whether that be another of them or a being they made up, this 'Icon' existed for the purpose of managing themselves and driving themselves forward. Without an 'Icon', the Heinmi will be lost. And that is what exactly happened- their latest 'Icon', which bound their entire race, was destroyed in an accident. Lost, the Heinmi sought to make an 'Icon' that could not be supplanted or destroyed. So, they worked together, and they created Yaldabaoth, a being who could take care of them like no 'Icon' had did before.

But Yaldabaoth was corrupted. Something about it was deeply wrong, and so it made the Physical Domain, defined solely by the emanations of the concepts of existence onto a lesser form of existence- lashing humanity to physical bodies that suffered from disease, destruction and death. Envious of the Aeons, it called itself 'God' and ruled over the Heinmi- now known as the Sal-Heinmi (think:humans).

(this is a great place to expand!)

In an effort to save the Sal-Heinmi from eternal servitude, 'F' made the 'Bahir' (or was it there already?),  a bridge between the two Domains of the Universe, the Higher Domain of 'F' and the Lower Domain of Yaldabaoth and Sal-Heinmi. The Bahir does not have any power of its own, but instead gives the infinite energy from the Higher Domain to the lower to sustain its existence. This allowed it to escape from Yaldabaoth's clutches and give the Sal-Heinmi power to make their 'Machina', objects that followed constructs known as the 'laws of the physical world'. The Bahir also served another purpose- to aid in the filtering of the pure Archetypes to the Physical Domain.

(this is also a great place to expand!)

These Archetypes could occasionally come down through the Bahir and attach directly to Sal-Heinmi's souls, turning them into something different. S'Dein, beings with legendary power.

We?

Quote from: jeff37923 on December 27, 2022, 07:18:58 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 03:04:52 AM
In this thread, we are making a collectively designed setting made by everyone who can contribute to this thread. The setting can be used with any compatible system like 13th Age or Exalted and so on. One can say almost anything- 'There are ten billion people in this world and all of them are gods' is acceptable, as is 'the gods are dead'. Now, every good social activity needs rules that bind and structure the actions of the participants to avoid the social activity being torn apart by those who want to ruin others fun, and to give the contributors a guide about what to do next. There are six rules governing this thread.

1. This is a fantasy setting. Although some sci fi is allowed, this is primarily fantasy- gods, demons, and angels are expected here.
2. One cannot deny the contributions of another. You can't say that one person's post is myth, legend, or not real, or that everyone involved in it died and did nothing. All posts are real, valid, and affect the current state of the world. One cannot destroy the world, either.
3. One cannot make vulgar posts such as 'everyone was raped'. No sexual assault is allowed whatsoever, for that matter.
4. Related to this, every post must be serious. No jokes allowed!
5. We start from the beginning of the world to the current day, progressing at a moderate pace. Anyone who tries to slow down or speed up this pace has their posts invalidated. Anyone who tries to refer to any world post other than the newest one has their post invalidated.
6. Someone can expand on one other's post. For instance, adding that the god who made the world's name is Humbaba. Or something a bit more serious than that. It's in good fashion to note where others can expand on your post. This, of course, has a limit. Only one expanding post can be made after every post, in concordance with rule 5.

As the thread creator, I will go first.

The Creation Of The World, and The Basis For The Magic System

There was a being or a place or a concept that had no name, and so will be referred to as 'thing'. This 'thing' shed a 'tear'. From that 'tear' came the Aeons, beings of immense creative power. These Aeons were one and not one, many and one at the same time. The Aeons were called 'F' by 'thing', and 'F''s creative power made a byproduct. The Archetypes of the Universe, the 52 'Words' that define the Lower Domain. With these 52 Words, Heinmi was made, a race of creators much like the Aeons but limited by logic.

In their state that transcended mortality and rules, the Heinmi prospered. The Golden Age stretched on and on across time and space- but it came to an 'end'.

(this is a great place to expand!)

The Heinmi's natural state of existence was to seek an 'Icon' for a binding purpose. Whether that be another of them or a being they made up, this 'Icon' existed for the purpose of managing themselves and driving themselves forward. Without an 'Icon', the Heinmi will be lost. And that is what exactly happened- their latest 'Icon', which bound their entire race, was destroyed in an accident. Lost, the Heinmi sought to make an 'Icon' that could not be supplanted or destroyed. So, they worked together, and they created Yaldabaoth, a being who could take care of them like no 'Icon' had did before.

But Yaldabaoth was corrupted. Something about it was deeply wrong, and so it made the Physical Domain, defined solely by the emanations of the concepts of existence onto a lesser form of existence- lashing humanity to physical bodies that suffered from disease, destruction and death. Envious of the Aeons, it called itself 'God' and ruled over the Heinmi- now known as the Sal-Heinmi (think:humans).

(this is a great place to expand!)

In an effort to save the Sal-Heinmi from eternal servitude, 'F' made the 'Bahir' (or was it there already?),  a bridge between the two Domains of the Universe, the Higher Domain of 'F' and the Lower Domain of Yaldabaoth and Sal-Heinmi. The Bahir does not have any power of its own, but instead gives the infinite energy from the Higher Domain to the lower to sustain its existence. This allowed it to escape from Yaldabaoth's clutches and give the Sal-Heinmi power to make their 'Machina', objects that followed constructs known as the 'laws of the physical world'. The Bahir also served another purpose- to aid in the filtering of the pure Archetypes to the Physical Domain.

(this is also a great place to expand!)

These Archetypes could occasionally come down through the Bahir and attach directly to Sal-Heinmi's souls, turning them into something different. S'Dein, beings with legendary power.

We?

Yes, we. Although my post may seem long, there are two things to note:

1. This only covers the creation of the world. Three things happen- the world gets created, humans get forced into material bodies, Bahir acts as a gateway for archetypes. What happens after is up to everyone else.
2. I specifically noted where it's best to expand upon.

I made the most important parts, or broad outlines of them. You could have remnants of the pre-Yaldy world, a lesser form of S'Dein powers, or literally anything else. It is up to you.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 07:39:12 AM

If it's not too personal a question, are you on the Autism Spectrum?

I'm not asking as a dig or slight, I am genuinely curious, as I know Autistic people can have trouble navigating shared play and turn taking.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 03:04:52 AM
In this thread, we are making a collectively designed setting made by everyone who can contribute to this thread. The setting can be used with any compatible system like 13th Age or Exalted and so on. One can say almost anything- 'There are ten billion people in this world and all of them are gods' is acceptable, as is 'the gods are dead'. Now, every good social activity needs rules that bind and structure the actions of the participants to avoid the social activity being torn apart by those who want to ruin others fun, and to give the contributors a guide about what to do next. There are six rules governing this thread.

1. This is a fantasy setting. Although some sci fi is allowed, this is primarily fantasy- gods, demons, and angels are expected here.
2. One cannot deny the contributions of another. You can't say that one person's post is myth, legend, or not real, or that everyone involved in it died and did nothing. All posts are real, valid, and affect the current state of the world. One cannot destroy the world, either.
3. One cannot make vulgar posts such as 'everyone was raped'. No sexual assault is allowed whatsoever, for that matter.
4. Related to this, every post must be serious. No jokes allowed!
5. We start from the beginning of the world to the current day, progressing at a moderate pace. Anyone who tries to slow down or speed up this pace has their posts invalidated. Anyone who tries to refer to any world post other than the newest one has their post invalidated.
6. Someone can expand on one other's post. For instance, adding that the god who made the world's name is Humbaba. Or something a bit more serious than that. It's in good fashion to note where others can expand on your post. This, of course, has a limit. Only one expanding post can be made after every post, in concordance with rule 5.

As the thread creator, I will go first.

The Creation Of The World, and The Basis For The Magic System

There was a being or a place or a concept that had no name, and so will be referred to as 'thing'. This 'thing' shed a 'tear'. From that 'tear' came the Aeons, beings of immense creative power. These Aeons were one and not one, many and one at the same time. The Aeons were called 'F' by 'thing', and 'F''s creative power made a byproduct. The Archetypes of the Universe, the 52 'Words' that define the Lower Domain. With these 52 Words, Heinmi was made, a race of creators much like the Aeons but limited by logic.

In their state that transcended mortality and rules, the Heinmi prospered. The Golden Age stretched on and on across time and space- but it came to an 'end'.

(this is a great place to expand!)

The Heinmi's natural state of existence was to seek an 'Icon' for a binding purpose. Whether that be another of them or a being they made up, this 'Icon' existed for the purpose of managing themselves and driving themselves forward. Without an 'Icon', the Heinmi will be lost. And that is what exactly happened- their latest 'Icon', which bound their entire race, was destroyed in an accident. Lost, the Heinmi sought to make an 'Icon' that could not be supplanted or destroyed. So, they worked together, and they created Yaldabaoth, a being who could take care of them like no 'Icon' had did before.

But Yaldabaoth was corrupted. Something about it was deeply wrong, and so it made the Physical Domain, defined solely by the emanations of the concepts of existence onto a lesser form of existence- lashing humanity to physical bodies that suffered from disease, destruction and death. Envious of the Aeons, it called itself 'God' and ruled over the Heinmi- now known as the Sal-Heinmi (think:humans).

(this is a great place to expand!)

In an effort to save the Sal-Heinmi from eternal servitude, 'F' made the 'Bahir' (or was it there already?),  a bridge between the two Domains of the Universe, the Higher Domain of 'F' and the Lower Domain of Yaldabaoth and Sal-Heinmi. The Bahir does not have any power of its own, but instead gives the infinite energy from the Higher Domain to the lower to sustain its existence. This allowed it to escape from Yaldabaoth's clutches and give the Sal-Heinmi power to make their 'Machina', objects that followed constructs known as the 'laws of the physical world'. The Bahir also served another purpose- to aid in the filtering of the pure Archetypes to the Physical Domain.

(this is also a great place to expand!)

These Archetypes could occasionally come down through the Bahir and attach directly to Sal-Heinmi's souls, turning them into something different. S'Dein, beings with legendary power.

Who said you get to go first and define so much before anyone else gets a say, sweetheart?

Your ideas suck and your avatar makes me think you're either a tween girl or a pedo groomer. You regularly tell people who disagree with you to kill themselves while demanding special consideration for your ideas.

No one wants to work with a toxic mess. Figure your life out and then get back to us on collaboration.

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 27, 2022, 08:17:43 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 07:39:12 AM

If it's not too personal a question, are you on the Autism Spectrum?

I'm not asking as a dig or slight, I am genuinely curious, as I know Autistic people can have trouble navigating shared play and turn taking.

I'd prefer not to answer. I'm sorry, that's too personal for me. I apologize for typing too many words in the first half- I just wanted to create a clear structure and outline for my specific part and everyone else's.

The lore part is a copy and paste from a friend's discord server- I have a lore channel there. I tend to be very long winded.

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 08:25:55 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 03:04:52 AM
In this thread, we are making a collectively designed setting made by everyone who can contribute to this thread. The setting can be used with any compatible system like 13th Age or Exalted and so on. One can say almost anything- 'There are ten billion people in this world and all of them are gods' is acceptable, as is 'the gods are dead'. Now, every good social activity needs rules that bind and structure the actions of the participants to avoid the social activity being torn apart by those who want to ruin others fun, and to give the contributors a guide about what to do next. There are six rules governing this thread.

1. This is a fantasy setting. Although some sci fi is allowed, this is primarily fantasy- gods, demons, and angels are expected here.
2. One cannot deny the contributions of another. You can't say that one person's post is myth, legend, or not real, or that everyone involved in it died and did nothing. All posts are real, valid, and affect the current state of the world. One cannot destroy the world, either.
3. One cannot make vulgar posts such as 'everyone was raped'. No sexual assault is allowed whatsoever, for that matter.
4. Related to this, every post must be serious. No jokes allowed!
5. We start from the beginning of the world to the current day, progressing at a moderate pace. Anyone who tries to slow down or speed up this pace has their posts invalidated. Anyone who tries to refer to any world post other than the newest one has their post invalidated.
6. Someone can expand on one other's post. For instance, adding that the god who made the world's name is Humbaba. Or something a bit more serious than that. It's in good fashion to note where others can expand on your post. This, of course, has a limit. Only one expanding post can be made after every post, in concordance with rule 5.

As the thread creator, I will go first.

The Creation Of The World, and The Basis For The Magic System

There was a being or a place or a concept that had no name, and so will be referred to as 'thing'. This 'thing' shed a 'tear'. From that 'tear' came the Aeons, beings of immense creative power. These Aeons were one and not one, many and one at the same time. The Aeons were called 'F' by 'thing', and 'F''s creative power made a byproduct. The Archetypes of the Universe, the 52 'Words' that define the Lower Domain. With these 52 Words, Heinmi was made, a race of creators much like the Aeons but limited by logic.

In their state that transcended mortality and rules, the Heinmi prospered. The Golden Age stretched on and on across time and space- but it came to an 'end'.

(this is a great place to expand!)

The Heinmi's natural state of existence was to seek an 'Icon' for a binding purpose. Whether that be another of them or a being they made up, this 'Icon' existed for the purpose of managing themselves and driving themselves forward. Without an 'Icon', the Heinmi will be lost. And that is what exactly happened- their latest 'Icon', which bound their entire race, was destroyed in an accident. Lost, the Heinmi sought to make an 'Icon' that could not be supplanted or destroyed. So, they worked together, and they created Yaldabaoth, a being who could take care of them like no 'Icon' had did before.

But Yaldabaoth was corrupted. Something about it was deeply wrong, and so it made the Physical Domain, defined solely by the emanations of the concepts of existence onto a lesser form of existence- lashing humanity to physical bodies that suffered from disease, destruction and death. Envious of the Aeons, it called itself 'God' and ruled over the Heinmi- now known as the Sal-Heinmi (think:humans).

(this is a great place to expand!)

In an effort to save the Sal-Heinmi from eternal servitude, 'F' made the 'Bahir' (or was it there already?),  a bridge between the two Domains of the Universe, the Higher Domain of 'F' and the Lower Domain of Yaldabaoth and Sal-Heinmi. The Bahir does not have any power of its own, but instead gives the infinite energy from the Higher Domain to the lower to sustain its existence. This allowed it to escape from Yaldabaoth's clutches and give the Sal-Heinmi power to make their 'Machina', objects that followed constructs known as the 'laws of the physical world'. The Bahir also served another purpose- to aid in the filtering of the pure Archetypes to the Physical Domain.

(this is also a great place to expand!)

These Archetypes could occasionally come down through the Bahir and attach directly to Sal-Heinmi's souls, turning them into something different. S'Dein, beings with legendary power.

Who said you get to go first and define so much before anyone else gets a say, sweetheart?

Your ideas suck and your avatar makes me think you're either a tween girl or a pedo groomer. You regularly tell people who disagree with you to kill themselves while demanding special consideration for your ideas.

No one wants to work with a toxic mess. Figure your life out and then get back to us on collaboration.

Edit: You were the wrong guy, sorry about that. Although you should really follow my earlier advice.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:31:18 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 27, 2022, 08:17:43 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 07:39:12 AM

If it's not too personal a question, are you on the Autism Spectrum?

I'm not asking as a dig or slight, I am genuinely curious, as I know Autistic people can have trouble navigating shared play and turn taking.

I'd prefer not to answer. I'm sorry, that's too personal for me. I apologize for typing too many words in the first half- I just wanted to create a clear structure and outline for my specific part and everyone else's.

The lore part is a copy and paste from a friend's discord server- I have a lore channel there. I tend to be very long winded.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gb8vbm0DIrK3jby/giphy.gif)

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 27, 2022, 08:44:21 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:31:18 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 27, 2022, 08:17:43 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 07:39:12 AM

If it's not too personal a question, are you on the Autism Spectrum?

I'm not asking as a dig or slight, I am genuinely curious, as I know Autistic people can have trouble navigating shared play and turn taking.

I'd prefer not to answer. I'm sorry, that's too personal for me. I apologize for typing too many words in the first half- I just wanted to create a clear structure and outline for my specific part and everyone else's.

The lore part is a copy and paste from a friend's discord server- I have a lore channel there. I tend to be very long winded.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gb8vbm0DIrK3jby/giphy.gif)

pfft. where's that gif from?

Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

That's fine. You do you.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:32:22 AM
Edit: You were the wrong guy, sorry about that. Although you should really follow my earlier advice.

Your "advice" is for people who disagree with you to kill themselves because you're a thinskinned self-important snowflake. You have nothing constructive to add to conversations here so welcome to ignore land.

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 09:41:12 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:32:22 AM
Edit: You were the wrong guy, sorry about that. Although you should really follow my earlier advice.

Your "advice" is for people who disagree with you to kill themselves because you're a thinskinned self-important snowflake. You have nothing constructive to add to conversations here so welcome to ignore land.

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Already expanding my horizons. I don't need your advice. You need mine.

Wow. I expected this thread to go off the rails, but not this quickly  :P

Hey dude you have a lot of energy and passion about your ideas but you seem oblivious to social aspects. Most people don't want to play second fiddle in a creative endeavor like this unless it's a paid gig. Your post makes it clear that it's your setting and your rules. If it's supposed to be a creative game, there are games designed for this (eg Microscope) and the players typically have equal creative authority.

Quote from: rytrasmi on December 27, 2022, 12:07:17 PM
Hey dude you have a lot of energy and passion about your ideas but you seem oblivious to social aspects. Most people don't want to play second fiddle in a creative endeavor like this unless it's a paid gig. Your post makes it clear that it's your setting and your rules. If it's supposed to be a creative game, there are games designed for this (eg Microscope) and the players typically have equal creative authority.

He's Autistic, and gets annoyed when others don't 'understand the logic' of his reasoning; but has decided that all other humans must be wrong, so he becomes aggressive and dismissive of anyone that tries even creative criticism.

I've got a lot of time for people that don't see social cues, or have an obsessive personality. What I don't have time for is people refusing to try and adapt, and becoming a self-satisfied ass.

Unless someone wants to live in a cave, they have to learn to Human.

OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

Agreed. The OP seems to be asking for some opinions or ideas on a setting - or even some help to build it - and that is okay.

It could have been worded more clearly.

OP, if you want feedback, I'd say for now it is just a collection of strange names.

"The Aeons were called 'F' by 'thing', and 'F''s creative power made a byproduct. The Archetypes of the Universe. The Heinmi were made, a race of creators much like the Aeons but limited by logic." frankly gives me headaches.

I'd simplify everything...

Something like:

First, there was the Thing - a being, place or concept with no other name. It shed a tear, which created the Aeons - beings of immense creative power, that were one and many at the same time. They've made a second race - the Heinmi,  and disappeared with the Thing, leaving further creation to their progeny.

The Heinmi were immortal creators much like the Aeons, but limited by logic...

(That's the best I've got for now).

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 09:41:12 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:32:22 AM
Edit: You were the wrong guy, sorry about that. Although you should really follow my earlier advice.

Your "advice" is for people who disagree with you to kill themselves because you're a thinskinned self-important snowflake. You have nothing constructive to add to conversations here so welcome to ignore land.

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Greetings!

*BOOM* Damn, Chris. Did you make some dark blend coffee this morning? ;D

I, of course, love all of your book recommendations. I entirely agree, as well.

I don't quite understand why some people get so enamoured with Anime-whatever. Much of their design concepts are as you pointed out, metaphysical mush. Then, they have many aspects that are merely watered-down Western ideas. Why not go right to the source to begin with? *Laughing*

And, fuck Gnosticism. The fires wait for the heretic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on December 27, 2022, 03:36:45 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 09:41:12 AM

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Greetings!

*BOOM* Damn, Chris. Did you make some dark blend coffee this morning? ;D

I, of course, love all of your book recommendations. I entirely agree, as well.

I don't quite understand why some people get so enamoured with Anime-whatever. Much of their design concepts are as you pointed out, metaphysical mush. Then, they have many aspects that are merely watered-down Western ideas. Why not go right to the source to begin with? *Laughing*

And, fuck Gnosticism. The fires wait for the heretic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I don't know. The reflexive hatred some people exhibit towards anything Japanese strikes me as every bit as pointless and short-sighted as the equally reflexive obsessive defense of it you get from others. Just like everyone else, the Japanese produce some really good stuff, and they produce some trite garbage.

All culture is derivative to an extent. Personally I care less about what your influences are, than about what you do with them. Ghost in the Shell might be heavily influenced by Neuromancer, but it's a very different end product. Hideyuki Kikuchi has repeatedly cited Hammer horror films as the chief inspiration for Vampire Hunter D, but again the end product is so different that you probably wouldn't know it. Cowboy Bebop is almost entirely derived from American pop culture, down to specifically name-checking specific movies and musicians, but no western product has yet succeeded in replicating it's particular mashup of tones and elements.

And what about when the influence feeds back the other way? The Magnificent 7 is probably my favorite western, and I certainly wouldn't consider it no longer worth watching just because I could go watch The Seven Samurai instead. Yeah, you could argue about whether the Chanbara genre is itself derivative of the American western, and the western is derivative of the early 20th century pulps, and the pulps are derivative of Victorian-era adventure stories and on and on forever. What's the point? Good stuff is good. Bad stuff is bad.

For reference, I've read or watched everything on Chris' list except for the TV serials, and it includes several of my favorite novels. I just don't think there's any reason to stop there.

Quote from: ForgottenF on December 27, 2022, 05:21:59 PM

Quote from: SHARK on December 27, 2022, 03:36:45 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 09:41:12 AM

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Greetings!

*BOOM* Damn, Chris. Did you make some dark blend coffee this morning? ;D

I, of course, love all of your book recommendations. I entirely agree, as well.

I don't quite understand why some people get so enamoured with Anime-whatever. Much of their design concepts are as you pointed out, metaphysical mush. Then, they have many aspects that are merely watered-down Western ideas. Why not go right to the source to begin with? *Laughing*

And, fuck Gnosticism. The fires wait for the heretic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I don't know. The reflexive hatred some people exhibit towards anything Japanese strikes me as every bit as pointless and short-sighted as the equally reflexive obsessive defense of it you get from others. Just like everyone else, the Japanese produce some really good stuff, and they produce some trite garbage.

All culture is derivative to an extent. Personally I care less about what your influences are, than about what you do with them. Ghost in the Shell might be heavily influenced by Neuromancer, but it's a very different end product. Hideyuki Kikuchi has repeatedly cited Hammer horror films as the chief inspiration for Vampire Hunter D, but again the end product is so different that you probably wouldn't know it. Cowboy Bebop is almost entirely derived from American pop culture, down to specifically name-checking specific movies and musicians, but no western product has yet succeeded in replicating it's particular mashup of tones and elements.

And what about when the influence feeds back the other way? The Magnificent 7 is probably my favorite western, and I certainly wouldn't consider it no longer worth watching just because I could go watch The Seven Samurai instead. Yeah, you could argue about whether the Chanbara genre is itself derivative of the American western, and the western is derivative of the early 20th century pulps, and the pulps are derivative of Victorian-era adventure stories and on and on forever. What's the point? Good stuff is good. Bad stuff is bad.

For reference, I've read or watched everything on Chris' list except for the TV serials, and it includes several of my favorite novels. I just don't think there's any reason to stop there.

Just here to point out that Record of Lodoss War (the original influence on almost all fantasy anime and manga) was the creator's B/X D&D campaign written as a story after the campaign ended.

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

Quote from: ForgottenF on December 27, 2022, 05:21:59 PM

Quote from: SHARK on December 27, 2022, 03:36:45 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 09:41:12 AM

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Greetings!

*BOOM* Damn, Chris. Did you make some dark blend coffee this morning? ;D

I, of course, love all of your book recommendations. I entirely agree, as well.

I don't quite understand why some people get so enamoured with Anime-whatever. Much of their design concepts are as you pointed out, metaphysical mush. Then, they have many aspects that are merely watered-down Western ideas. Why not go right to the source to begin with? *Laughing*

And, fuck Gnosticism. The fires wait for the heretic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I don't know. The reflexive hatred some people exhibit towards anything Japanese strikes me as every bit as pointless and short-sighted as the equally reflexive obsessive defense of it you get from others. Just like everyone else, the Japanese produce some really good stuff, and they produce some trite garbage.

All culture is derivative to an extent. Personally I care less about what your influences are, than about what you do with them. Ghost in the Shell might be heavily influenced by Neuromancer, but it's a very different end product. Hideyuki Kikuchi has repeatedly cited Hammer horror films as the chief inspiration for Vampire Hunter D, but again the end product is so different that you probably wouldn't know it. Cowboy Bebop is almost entirely derived from American pop culture, down to specifically name-checking specific movies and musicians, but no western product has yet succeeded in replicating it's particular mashup of tones and elements.

And what about when the influence feeds back the other way? The Magnificent 7 is probably my favorite western, and I certainly wouldn't consider it no longer worth watching just because I could go watch The Seven Samurai instead. Yeah, you could argue about whether the Chanbara genre is itself derivative of the American western, and the western is derivative of the early 20th century pulps, and the pulps are derivative of Victorian-era adventure stories and on and on forever. What's the point? Good stuff is good. Bad stuff is bad.

For reference, I've read or watched everything on Chris' list except for the TV serials, and it includes several of my favorite novels. I just don't think there's any reason to stop there.

wow, nice to see a poster that takes a reasonable stance on anime.

Quote from: jeff37923 on December 27, 2022, 05:59:00 PM

Quote from: ForgottenF on December 27, 2022, 05:21:59 PM

Quote from: SHARK on December 27, 2022, 03:36:45 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 09:41:12 AM

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Greetings!

*BOOM* Damn, Chris. Did you make some dark blend coffee this morning? ;D

I, of course, love all of your book recommendations. I entirely agree, as well.

I don't quite understand why some people get so enamoured with Anime-whatever. Much of their design concepts are as you pointed out, metaphysical mush. Then, they have many aspects that are merely watered-down Western ideas. Why not go right to the source to begin with? *Laughing*

And, fuck Gnosticism. The fires wait for the heretic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I don't know. The reflexive hatred some people exhibit towards anything Japanese strikes me as every bit as pointless and short-sighted as the equally reflexive obsessive defense of it you get from others. Just like everyone else, the Japanese produce some really good stuff, and they produce some trite garbage.

All culture is derivative to an extent. Personally I care less about what your influences are, than about what you do with them. Ghost in the Shell might be heavily influenced by Neuromancer, but it's a very different end product. Hideyuki Kikuchi has repeatedly cited Hammer horror films as the chief inspiration for Vampire Hunter D, but again the end product is so different that you probably wouldn't know it. Cowboy Bebop is almost entirely derived from American pop culture, down to specifically name-checking specific movies and musicians, but no western product has yet succeeded in replicating it's particular mashup of tones and elements.

And what about when the influence feeds back the other way? The Magnificent 7 is probably my favorite western, and I certainly wouldn't consider it no longer worth watching just because I could go watch The Seven Samurai instead. Yeah, you could argue about whether the Chanbara genre is itself derivative of the American western, and the western is derivative of the early 20th century pulps, and the pulps are derivative of Victorian-era adventure stories and on and on forever. What's the point? Good stuff is good. Bad stuff is bad.

For reference, I've read or watched everything on Chris' list except for the TV serials, and it includes several of my favorite novels. I just don't think there's any reason to stop there.

Just here to point out that Record of Lodoss War (the original influence on almost all fantasy anime and manga) was the creator's B/X D&D campaign written as a story after the campaign ended.

Greetings!

JEFF! *Laughing* I agree. Record of the Lodoss War is *awesome*. It is definitely a favourite of mine. Cowboy Bebop is ok, too. Some Anime/Manga has indeed been cool. As a genre, I wouldn't consider myself a hater of Anime/Manga. I'm definitely not obsessed with it though, or a strong fan. I'd say I'm generally skeptical, though remaining open-minded.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: ForgottenF on December 27, 2022, 05:21:59 PM

Quote from: SHARK on December 27, 2022, 03:36:45 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 27, 2022, 09:41:12 AM

Quote from: soundchaser on December 27, 2022, 09:05:00 AM
Already ghost in the machine rampant with  boring dualism and the age-old gnosis version of creation. Collaboration here would mean backing up to twenty creation story questions and a round or ten thousand on hashing out metaphysics. I personally hate gnostic dualism and the whole bifurcation theory of souls-in-bodies. It's so old it's new it seems. Blech. On to the other threads.

It's basically every shit moralizing concept from fatalistic anime smooshed into a toxic slurry. They are in desperate need of expanding their creative horizons...

I'd suggest they start with some western mythology; Greco-Roman, Norse, Epic of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, the Bible (foundational for Western civilization and familar just by cultural osmosis... if you want a sense of familiarity to your fantasy setting incorporating expies of some of its elements is helpful).

Then maybe dip into medieval myths/legends; Arthurian myths, Robin Hood, Song of Roland, non-Disnified versions of Grimm's fairy tales.

Maybe some classics of Western fantasy; Conan, Tarzan, Narnia, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings.

And lastly some classic westerns, as much of modern fantasy borrows it's tropes from the genre; Zorro, Lone Ranger, Once Upon a Time in the West, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Gunsmoke, Wagon Train, Rawhide.

Greetings!

*BOOM* Damn, Chris. Did you make some dark blend coffee this morning? ;D

I, of course, love all of your book recommendations. I entirely agree, as well.

I don't quite understand why some people get so enamoured with Anime-whatever. Much of their design concepts are as you pointed out, metaphysical mush. Then, they have many aspects that are merely watered-down Western ideas. Why not go right to the source to begin with? *Laughing*

And, fuck Gnosticism. The fires wait for the heretic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I don't know. The reflexive hatred some people exhibit towards anything Japanese strikes me as every bit as pointless and short-sighted as the equally reflexive obsessive defense of it you get from others. Just like everyone else, the Japanese produce some really good stuff, and they produce some trite garbage.

All culture is derivative to an extent. Personally I care less about what your influences are, than about what you do with them. Ghost in the Shell might be heavily influenced by Neuromancer, but it's a very different end product. Hideyuki Kikuchi has repeatedly cited Hammer horror films as the chief inspiration for Vampire Hunter D, but again the end product is so different that you probably wouldn't know it. Cowboy Bebop is almost entirely derived from American pop culture, down to specifically name-checking specific movies and musicians, but no western product has yet succeeded in replicating it's particular mashup of tones and elements.

And what about when the influence feeds back the other way? The Magnificent 7 is probably my favorite western, and I certainly wouldn't consider it no longer worth watching just because I could go watch The Seven Samurai instead. Yeah, you could argue about whether the Chanbara genre is itself derivative of the American western, and the western is derivative of the early 20th century pulps, and the pulps are derivative of Victorian-era adventure stories and on and on forever. What's the point? Good stuff is good. Bad stuff is bad.

For reference, I've read or watched everything on Chris' list except for the TV serials, and it includes several of my favorite novels. I just don't think there's any reason to stop there.

Greetings!

Hey ForgottenF! Yeah, there's a few Anime/Manga programs that I've liked. I definitely wouldn't consider myself a hater. Just generally skeptical, though open-minded. A good number of the shows I've seen struck me as unappealing out of mushy metaphysics, convoluted plot lines, weak characterization, and various "tropes" of the genre. That doesn't mean though that there aren't some good Anime shows that have been done, in my view.

I think many people bristle against Anime for many of the "tropes" as well as the Anime aesthetics.

And yes, Magnificent Seven is an absolute classic and a masterpiece. Definitely one of my favourite Westerns of all time--and I know it was originally inspired by The Seven Samurai. Certainly, there has been lots of cross-inspiration through the years. Obviously, as much as the Anime fan-base and popularity grows, there is a segment that bristles against it. I think the tropes and characterizations are different enough in their expression that it becomes unappealing to a good number, especially more Western/American audiences of fans and gamers. No doubt though, that Anime/Manga has become *huge* and increasingly popular with many.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on December 27, 2022, 08:34:48 PM
JEFF! *Laughing* I agree. Record of the Lodoss War is *awesome*. It is definitely a favourite of mine. Cowboy Bebop is ok, too. Some Anime/Manga has indeed been cool. As a genre, I wouldn't consider myself a hater of Anime/Manga. I'm definitely not obsessed with it though, or a strong fan. I'd say I'm generally skeptical, though remaining open-minded.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Anime is medium not genre, just like Western live action productions could be anything from an endless soap opera to a documentary. The worst thing about anime are the rapid fans that insists that is its good or even better because it is anime with no further qualification.  One does not tend to see such wholesale evangelism towards Hollywood.

I normally love this sorts of collaborative world building games. I really like Microscope, for example. Though there is something about the original post that seems to have sucked away any creativity I have regarding world building in this would-be setting. Maybe it defines the world too much on a fundamental, yet vague, level. Posts that are more specific and yet constrained seem to work better for this kind of thing, like saying that there is an empire of evil elves that rules over a jungle from their mountain top city.

Rule 5 also confuses and deters me. Does it mean that all contributions need to be made in chronological order? That only the most recent post can be referenced or build on? This seems extremely constraining, or maybe I just don't understand it.

Quote from: ShieldWife on December 27, 2022, 09:48:41 PM
I normally love this sorts of collaborative world building games. I really like Microscope, for example. Though there is something about the original post that seems to have sucked away any creativity I have regarding world building in this would-be setting. Maybe it defines the world too much on a fundamental, yet vague, level. Posts that are more specific and yet constrained seem to work better for this kind of thing, like saying that there is an empire of evil elves that rules over a jungle from their mountain top city.

Rule 5 also confuses and deters me. Does it mean that all contributions need to be made in chronological order? That only the most recent post can be referenced or build on? This seems extremely constraining, or maybe I just don't understand it.

only the first post can be referenced upon. I'll go edit the original post.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 03:04:52 AM
In this thread, we are making a collectively designed setting made by everyone who can contribute to this thread. The setting can be used with any compatible system like 13th Age or Exalted and so on. One can say almost anything- 'There are ten billion people in this world and all of them are gods' is acceptable, as is 'the gods are dead'. Now, every good social activity needs rules that bind and structure the actions of the participants to avoid the social activity being torn apart by those who want to ruin others fun, and to give the contributors a guide about what to do next. There are six rules governing this thread.

1. This is a fantasy setting. Although some sci fi is allowed, this is primarily fantasy- gods, demons, and angels are expected here.
2. One cannot deny the contributions of another. You can't say that one person's post is myth, legend, or not real, or that everyone involved in it died and did nothing. All posts are real, valid, and affect the current state of the world. One cannot destroy the world, either.
3. One cannot make vulgar posts such as 'everyone was raped'. No sexual assault is allowed whatsoever, for that matter.
4. Related to this, every post must be serious. No jokes allowed!
5. Someone can expand on one other's post. For instance, adding that the god who made the world's name is Humbaba. Or something a bit more serious than that. It's in good fashion to note where others can expand on your post in the form of a question.. This, of course, has a limit. Only one expanding post can be made after every post.

As the thread creator, I will go first.

The Creation Of The World, and The Basis For The Magic System

The Aeons made the S'Dein, humans with godlike power borne by the Shards of Archetypes clinging to their souls.

(Why did they do this and what happens after?)

since it was buried underneath an argument, I'm dragging it back to the forefront.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

If it went over people's heads, I aimed too high. It is my fault, and I'm not denying that.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:17:27 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

If it went over people's heads, I aimed too high. It is my fault, and I'm not denying that.

It's like a color that you can't see, or a tone you can't hear..

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 02:31:17 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:17:27 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

If it went over people's heads, I aimed too high. It is my fault, and I'm not denying that.

It's like a color that you can't see, or a tone you can't hear..

You accuse me of a lot of things. I am guilty of unclear wording and typing too much. That first one might be why you think I'm passive-aggressive...which is not my intention.

Also, I can, in fact, understand that people don't like things that I like or are unable to understand what I make (and I'm willing to slim down and clarify in that case). What I can't understand is when they insult and demean my personal preferences.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:56:03 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 02:31:17 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:17:27 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

If it went over people's heads, I aimed too high. It is my fault, and I'm not denying that.

It's like a color that you can't see, or a tone you can't hear..

You accuse me of a lot of things. I am guilty of unclear wording and typing too much. That first one might be why you think I'm passive-aggressive...which is not my intention.

Also, I can, in fact, understand that people don't like things that I like or are unable to understand what I make (and I'm willing to slim down and clarify in that case). What I can't understand is when they insult and demean my personal preferences.

While I fear I am shouting in to the void, I'll give it a try.

You think every time someone disagrees with you, or critiques what you wrote, it must be lack of comprehension. You're operating on this dizzyingly high level, and if only you could find a way to explain your ideas to the Ape-Men, then they'd realize your worth.

Firstly, your posts reek of feelings of superiority. Secondly, a lot of your ideas of very easy to understand, they're just derivative and not very interesting.

You come off as passive-aggressive because you are constantly aggressive in a passive way; it's not a riddle.

There are social cues, and a need for give-and-take in all Human social interactions, and you're blind and deaf to at least some of them.

There's a Jordan Peterson video (no I'm not being that guy, this is just something from psychology succinctly explained) where he talks about, essentially, give and take in play. Here's the link to just the relevant section: https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225 (https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225)

It's apropos because when you created this thread, you were so excited by your own ideas, that you made the game un-fun for other potential players. You seem unwilling, possibly incapable of processing this fact, but I've done my best.

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Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

If it went over people's heads, I aimed too high. It is my fault, and I'm not denying that.

It's like a color that you can't see, or a tone you can't hear..

You accuse me of a lot of things. I am guilty of unclear wording and typing too much. That first one might be why you think I'm passive-aggressive...which is not my intention.

Also, I can, in fact, understand that people don't like things that I like or are unable to understand what I make (and I'm willing to slim down and clarify in that case). What I can't understand is when they insult and demean my personal preferences.

While I fear I am shouting in to the void, I'll give it a try.

You think every time someone disagrees with you, or critiques what you wrote, it must be lack of comprehension. You're operating on this dizzyingly high level, and if only you could find a way to explain your ideas to the Ape-Men, then they'd realize your worth.

Firstly, your posts reek of feelings of superiority. Secondly, a lot of your ideas of very easy to understand, they're just derivative and not very interesting.

You come off as passive-aggressive because you are constantly aggressive in a passive way; it's not a riddle.

There are social cues, and a need for give-and-take in all Human social interactions, and you're blind and deaf to at least some of them.

There's a Jordan Peterson video (no I'm not being that guy, this is just something from psychology succinctly explained) where he talks about, essentially, give and take in play. Here's the link to just the relevant section: https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225 (https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225)

It's apropos because when you created this thread, you were so excited by your own ideas, that you made the game un-fun for other potential players. You seem unwilling, possibly incapable of processing this fact, but I've done my best.

Greetings!

AHHH, Grognard GM! *Laughing*--"Shouting into the void".

I almost choked on my coffee laughing. ;D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

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Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:56:03 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 02:31:17 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:17:27 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

If it went over people's heads, I aimed too high. It is my fault, and I'm not denying that.

It's like a color that you can't see, or a tone you can't hear..

You accuse me of a lot of things. I am guilty of unclear wording and typing too much. That first one might be why you think I'm passive-aggressive...which is not my intention.

Also, I can, in fact, understand that people don't like things that I like or are unable to understand what I make (and I'm willing to slim down and clarify in that case). What I can't understand is when they insult and demean my personal preferences.

While I fear I am shouting in to the void, I'll give it a try.

You think every time someone disagrees with you, or critiques what you wrote, it must be lack of comprehension. You're operating on this dizzyingly high level, and if only you could find a way to explain your ideas to the Ape-Men, then they'd realize your worth.

Firstly, your posts reek of feelings of superiority. Secondly, a lot of your ideas of very easy to understand, they're just derivative and not very interesting.

You come off as passive-aggressive because you are constantly aggressive in a passive way; it's not a riddle.

There are social cues, and a need for give-and-take in all Human social interactions, and you're blind and deaf to at least some of them.

There's a Jordan Peterson video (no I'm not being that guy, this is just something from psychology succinctly explained) where he talks about, essentially, give and take in play. Here's the link to just the relevant section: https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225 (https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225)

It's apropos because when you created this thread, you were so excited by your own ideas, that you made the game un-fun for other potential players. You seem unwilling, possibly incapable of processing this fact, but I've done my best.

Well, thank you for pointing out how I appear to others. I'll try to do better since I don't like that.

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Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 03:20:52 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:56:03 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 02:31:17 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 28, 2022, 02:17:27 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on December 27, 2022, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 27, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
OK Il be nice and say:

This isn't asking for collective design (I have seen threads like this on 4chan). This is basically asking for assistance with details of your choice.
This might have worked if you said 'Help me flesh out details of my setting'.

I have had issues communicating myself, so I can relate.

I'm new to these sort of threads. I wanted collective design and I also wanted to provide a robust outline of my part, but that went over people's heads. Sorry.

I highlighted this part, to point out how you seem physically unable to type anything that isn't passive-aggressive, or accept an iota of fault. And I don't just mean this thread.

If it went over people's heads, I aimed too high. It is my fault, and I'm not denying that.

It's like a color that you can't see, or a tone you can't hear..

You accuse me of a lot of things. I am guilty of unclear wording and typing too much. That first one might be why you think I'm passive-aggressive...which is not my intention.

Also, I can, in fact, understand that people don't like things that I like or are unable to understand what I make (and I'm willing to slim down and clarify in that case). What I can't understand is when they insult and demean my personal preferences.

While I fear I am shouting in to the void, I'll give it a try.

You think every time someone disagrees with you, or critiques what you wrote, it must be lack of comprehension. You're operating on this dizzyingly high level, and if only you could find a way to explain your ideas to the Ape-Men, then they'd realize your worth.

Firstly, your posts reek of feelings of superiority. Secondly, a lot of your ideas of very easy to understand, they're just derivative and not very interesting.

You come off as passive-aggressive because you are constantly aggressive in a passive way; it's not a riddle.

There are social cues, and a need for give-and-take in all Human social interactions, and you're blind and deaf to at least some of them.

There's a Jordan Peterson video (no I'm not being that guy, this is just something from psychology succinctly explained) where he talks about, essentially, give and take in play. Here's the link to just the relevant section: https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225 (https://youtu.be/JI9n2yC14fU?t=225)

It's apropos because when you created this thread, you were so excited by your own ideas, that you made the game un-fun for other potential players. You seem unwilling, possibly incapable of processing this fact, but I've done my best.

Well, thank you for pointing out how I appear to others. I'll try to do better since I don't like that.

That's honestly all I want for you. I'm at that stage in my life where I want to be everyone's dad.

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 28, 2022, 03:37:27 AM
That's honestly all I want for you. I'm at that stage in my life where I want to be everyone's dad.

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Cheers!

I warn you that these always wind up sounding like this to me when done: