Zak, tell us about what you're working on!

What is Demon City?

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1041121I just wish they would be honest and say what it really is, D&D their way.

Many OSR members are really clear about that. It's been a major point for me, long before the OSR. My OD&D isn't RAW and exists as an amalgam of TSR stuff and houserules, and when S&W:WB came out, it was surprisingly close to what I'd been running for years.

Quote from: Mike the Mage;1041128TAlthough I do feel that debunking some of these myths about what is really Left wing would get me a warning for being off-topic.

Please start a thread about that in Pundy's forum!

Quote from: Larsdangly;1041141As far as I can tell, the only people engaged in this sort of debate who know what they are doing are the guys working at the Russian troll farms who put out a significant fraction of the memes people like to use as kindling.

The Russians!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Quote from: trechriron;1041148You stand up for free speech and all the snowflakes piss themselves because you had the audacity to care about your freedom.

Free speech must be defended from moral authoritarians, whether they come from the Right or the Left.

It's why ALL of us (regardless of ideology) must band together to stand up for free speech.

We don't ever need to agree on anything....except for our right to disagree.

Part of me watches these antics and hopes that some of the OSR design thieves get caught in the crossfire.

As for the current fingerpointing spree. I just have to ask... So? Does it matter? This is just one in an ongoing string of SJWs turning on eachother and everyone else and still trying to control the various communities they have infested like a disease. And tomorrow it will be some new, but oddly same old, outrage, with a fresh coat of hate and bigotry, as they run out of victems to burn at the stake or old ones to reskin as the new new newest evil of evils.

If RPG companies target players that call everyone Nazis as buyers, I won't buy their games. I'm not interested in what ANTIFA plays.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1041254Please start a thread about that in Pundy's forum!

I think I'll keep my politics to my politics forums and enjoy discussing RPGs here. Besides, how long do you think a thread like that would last?

Quote from: Spinachcat;1041254Free speech must be defended from moral authoritarians, whether they come from the Right or the Left.

It's why ALL of us (regardless of ideology) must band together to stand up for free speech.

I wholeheartedly agree. But unless all of us commit to that, we will continue to have censorship of one form or another.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1041276If RPG companies target players that call everyone Nazis as buyers, I won't buy their games. I'm not interested in what ANTIFA plays.

I don't care about the politics of the people who write games and I don't want to see it included in the game either.

I am only interested in the quality of the design of the game or module and its value for money.

Admins and Pundit,

Shouldn't this thread be in a different section?

Seems way too political for the RPG section of the forum.

- Ed C.

That train is never late.:rolleyes:LOL

Quote from: Koltar;1041284Admins and Pundit,

Shouldn't this thread be in a different section?

Seems way too political for the RPG section of the forum.

- Ed C.

Oh don't worry. The thread will be locked soon enough. It's a predictable pattern.

So do these SJW types in the OSR not use Lovecraft or Howard as inspiration for their games?  Or are most OSR games at enough degrees of separation that these no longer count as inspirations?  Considering the content or these stories I'm surprised anyone into the thought control type leftism would be interested in "old school" gaming.

Quote from: KingCheops;1041307So do these SJW types in the OSR not use Lovecraft or Howard as inspiration for their games?  Or are most OSR games at enough degrees of separation that these no longer count as inspirations?  Considering the content or these stories I'm surprised anyone into the thought control type leftism would be interested in "old school" gaming.

Michael Moorcock still exists.

Quote from: Brad;1041087So is it bad form if I bring up the fact that Nazis were socialists?

It's much more complex than that. The original party was socialist is many ways (worker's rights, etc.). That's how it got its name, after all. However, once Hitler took control of the party in the early 1920s it moved away from this position while still giving lip service to it (as it got votes). When Hitler became chancellor in 1933 some in the party (mainly the Strasserists) tried to push for the socialist reforms they thought the party was for and Hitler stepped on them. The socialists in the Nazi party found themselves removed from what few positions of power in the party they had and in the case of some of the leaders of the socialist faction in the party, removed from the living during the Night of Long Knives in 1934. So while the Nazi party that ran for power during the 20s and early 30s tried to appear somewhat socialist to attract votes, the Nazi party that governed Germany from 1933 to 1945 about as socialist as it was democratic -- in that it gave lip service to both while actually being neither.

Seems to me that if anyone's looking for (sloppy but abundant) signs that the OSR were full of political right-wing-wacko-seeming (to non-right-wing people), some of the recent threads on this forum might seem to strongly suggest that (without even venturing into the political sub-forums).

So we have a gamer complaining that the gaming hobby is being overrun by his political enemies and they are destroying the hobby?

Seems to me that Pundit is just mad that Gus is stealing his shtick.

Everyone in this thread needs to calm the fuck down.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1041254Zak, tell us about what you're working on!

What is Demon City?

A fine question, Cat:

Demon City is a horror RPG. It uses tarot cards instead of dice and is a completely new system based on OSR / DIY D&D principles. Having high scores and the big guns matters a little, having advantages and better tactics matters a lot.

I've been working on it for over a year, it's almost done and a lot of it comes from ideas I had working with bigger companies that were too Out There for them.

Murder, corruption, death, whiskey, hate, night, darkness, noise, summoning, possession, car chases, claws, disorder, firearms, glass shattering, bathtubs filled with blood, devoured corpses, tentacles, neon, broken men, fear.

It is going to look like this:

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2018/05/love.html?zx=be2d9adf06119c14

and this:

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2018/02/demon-city-preview-with-sexy-sexy.html

(some of the spreads may contain old rules)

Fights work like this:

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2018/05/demon-city-combat-using-tarot-cards.html

The experience mechanic is developed out of Jeff Rients' Carousing rules. Yknow how detectives are always at the bar between (or during) cases? Well I built the experience and level-up system around that (early draft):

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/2017/03/downtime-in-demon-city.html

All the Demon City posts are here:

http://dndwithpornstars.blogspot.com/search/label/Demon%20City

Support the Patreon to help get it finished here:

https://www.patreon.com/DemonCity