Goddamnit, Zak, not only are you the centre of attention, meaning this story can't get traction where the mere mention of you is banned, but you can't go five minutes - and take this small measure of redemption in the public eye - without picking fights and punching yourself in the dick. For the love of glob, man, take the small win and stop alienating and demotivating people.

Quote from: Zak S on February 02, 2024, 12:18:37 AM
the article was about liars

i told the truth

those things are opposites

I said earlier, in this tread, that you'd be very smart to keep silent.  You must have an IQ below 87 for not only not keeping quiet about this article but actually posting proof of you being a shithead and screwing over to those you do business with.

You also have exhibited the same tendencies as the people that canceled you.  You demanded that someone loose work because you didn't like their social views.  That makes you the bad guy.  There's no way you didn't see this kind of behavior out of this crowd and how it was dishonestly applied before it happened to you.  You chose to align yourself with people that do the cancelling. 

You need to step away and do some deep personal reflection.

Quote from: GRIM on February 02, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
Goddamnit, Zak, not only are you the centre of attention, meaning this story can't get traction where the mere mention of you is banned, but you can't go five minutes - and take this small measure of redemption in the public eye - without picking fights and punching yourself in the dick. For the love of glob, man, take the small win and stop alienating and demotivating people.

At this point, posters should realize that some people are Drama Vortexes, and the best move is to get out of the gravitational pull...

At this point, I think the only thing to do with Zak is to commend him to the Divine Mercy.

Quote from: GRIM on February 02, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
Goddamnit, Zak, not only are you the centre of attention, meaning this story can't get traction where the mere mention of you is banned, but you can't go five minutes - and take this small measure of redemption in the public eye - without picking fights and punching yourself in the dick. For the love of glob, man, take the small win and stop alienating and demotivating people.

Too late. I'm demotivated. I, and others here, clearly see this is the game of malignant asshats that are the filmy layers of urine and feces that has continually been there in the hobby - and you and other victims are just a casualty of their games.

The solution is: gatekeep and rebuild. The more oxygen we give these narcissistic weasels the longer they persist in their shenanigans.

We need not forgive, we won't forget. Let's move forward. Re-litigating shit *we already knew* is pointless. We know those guy are bad actors. We don't need flaming smoke-belching guns. We ALREADY KNOW.

Quote from: GRIM on February 02, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
Goddamnit, Zak, not only are you the centre of attention, meaning this story can't get traction where the mere mention of you is banned, but you can't go five minutes - and take this small measure of redemption in the public eye - without picking fights and punching yourself in the dick. For the love of glob, man, take the small win and stop alienating and demotivating people.

What did I tell you?

We might know,  but normies didn't. It's important to get through to the go-alongs.

Quote from: tenbones on February 02, 2024, 11:59:07 AM

Quote from: GRIM on February 02, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
Goddamnit, Zak, not only are you the centre of attention, meaning this story can't get traction where the mere mention of you is banned, but you can't go five minutes - and take this small measure of redemption in the public eye - without picking fights and punching yourself in the dick. For the love of glob, man, take the small win and stop alienating and demotivating people.

Too late. I'm demotivated. I, and others here, clearly see this is the game of malignant asshats that are the filmy layers of urine and feces that has continually been there in the hobby - and you and other victims are just a casualty of their games.

The solution is: gatekeep and rebuild. The more oxygen we give these narcissistic weasels the longer they persist in their shenanigans.

We need not forgive, we won't forget. Let's move forward. Re-litigating shit *we already knew* is pointless. We know those guy are bad actors. We don't need flaming smoke-belching guns. We ALREADY KNOW.

I agree with Grim, it's not about the POS (Zak among them) who were victims of the same shit they do to others, it's not even about the innocent victims (Grim, Pundit, Macris and many others) it's about showing the normies the evidence that they are backing monsters.

Why do you guys think Literally Who is now decrying cancel culture as "hurting our own side"?

Normies must be kept in the dark for the woke to retain their power.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 02, 2024, 02:28:25 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 02, 2024, 11:59:07 AM

Quote from: GRIM on February 02, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
Goddamnit, Zak, not only are you the centre of attention, meaning this story can't get traction where the mere mention of you is banned, but you can't go five minutes - and take this small measure of redemption in the public eye - without picking fights and punching yourself in the dick. For the love of glob, man, take the small win and stop alienating and demotivating people.

Too late. I'm demotivated. I, and others here, clearly see this is the game of malignant asshats that are the filmy layers of urine and feces that has continually been there in the hobby - and you and other victims are just a casualty of their games.

The solution is: gatekeep and rebuild. The more oxygen we give these narcissistic weasels the longer they persist in their shenanigans.

We need not forgive, we won't forget. Let's move forward. Re-litigating shit *we already knew* is pointless. We know those guy are bad actors. We don't need flaming smoke-belching guns. We ALREADY KNOW.

I agree with Grim, it's not about the POS (Zak among them) who were victims of the same shit they do to others, it's not even about the innocent victims (Grim, Pundit, Macris and many others) it's about showing the normies the evidence that they are backing monsters.

Why do you guys think Literally Who is now decrying cancel culture as "hurting our own side"?

Normies must be kept in the dark for the woke to retain their power.

The problem is that could have been done flawlessly, and instead it was done in such a way that the Left only needs to say "This is all just Zak, Zak, Zak" and everyone can discount it.

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 02, 2024, 02:36:21 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 02, 2024, 02:28:25 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 02, 2024, 11:59:07 AM

Quote from: GRIM on February 02, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
Goddamnit, Zak, not only are you the centre of attention, meaning this story can't get traction where the mere mention of you is banned, but you can't go five minutes - and take this small measure of redemption in the public eye - without picking fights and punching yourself in the dick. For the love of glob, man, take the small win and stop alienating and demotivating people.

Too late. I'm demotivated. I, and others here, clearly see this is the game of malignant asshats that are the filmy layers of urine and feces that has continually been there in the hobby - and you and other victims are just a casualty of their games.

The solution is: gatekeep and rebuild. The more oxygen we give these narcissistic weasels the longer they persist in their shenanigans.

We need not forgive, we won't forget. Let's move forward. Re-litigating shit *we already knew* is pointless. We know those guy are bad actors. We don't need flaming smoke-belching guns. We ALREADY KNOW.

I agree with Grim, it's not about the POS (Zak among them) who were victims of the same shit they do to others, it's not even about the innocent victims (Grim, Pundit, Macris and many others) it's about showing the normies the evidence that they are backing monsters.

Why do you guys think Literally Who is now decrying cancel culture as "hurting our own side"?

Normies must be kept in the dark for the woke to retain their power.

The problem is that could have been done flawlessly, and instead it was done in such a way that the Left only needs to say "This is all just Zak, Zak, Zak" and everyone can discount it.

Especially if WE discount it as a Zak puff piece instead of grabbing it as the ram to break the illusion.

Zak only presented evidence that he is a thief, while he lied about the evidence he provided himself.

Quote from: GRIM on February 02, 2024, 02:07:40 PM
We might know,  but normies didn't. It's important to get through to the go-alongs.

^THIS^

Grim is 100% on point here, while a whole lot of other people seem to have lost the fucking plot.


All this focus on Z being in the article is the dumbest thing. Who cares? Why keep mentioning him?

He's a dick. Yeah, so he's innocent of what they accused him of...

In other news: He's still a dick that no one likes.

True, article didn't mention the names of some of the other people that have been hurt by these psychopaths.

So What?


The real focus should be on the fact that the scumbags in the article have since basically confirmed that it's all true.

That they are Still completely unrepentant.

And that to date NO ONE from their side has taken them to task for it.


Will that "change things" in the short run? No.

But it is only right that their villainy has been revealed for all to see, and that we now have a record of it.


The article gaining wider attention is a WIN people.

Stop trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by making it all about some dick.

Quote from: jhkim on February 01, 2024, 08:29:46 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 01, 2024, 09:56:01 AM

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on January 31, 2024, 05:51:08 PM
if anything, this whole twatgate rpgdrama had reminded me of Ocule's list. I really will only support creators who I know are decent.

I work in the corporate world - it's filled with mid-wits, nincompoops, bureaucratic twats, and a few geniuses. But the level of drama in the TTRPG world is so... *weeeirdly* childishly pathetic and malicious. When it *could* be so much better. But fuck me if watching this unfold as representative of the hobby... Jesus. It's pretty laughable.

As a customer, my reaction is that I have no interest in digging into the drama about who is right and wrong in these debates. In general, I'll buy based on whether it's a product I'm interested in, not based on whether the creator is a good person or not.

I don't care if the person who grew the oranges I buy is a good person or not, or what their politics are. I will boycott a major company at times, but it's the exception rather than the rule - and it's for major things, not stuff that I have to dig through social media for.

Hey, you do you. I don't dig through social media either. I rely on "The ListTM" hehehe lol

https://youtu.be/r0nUFW3MQKI?si=qu9bjvBl88fGiEE_

still one of my fav pundit vids. Especially when Taylor Lane is brought up.

Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on February 02, 2024, 03:56:22 PM
https://youtu.be/r0nUFW3MQKI?si=qu9bjvBl88fGiEE_

still one of my fav pundit vids. Especially when Taylor Lane is brought up.

My favorite "under 30" journalist who just celebrated her 45th birthday at the same time! She's the gift that keeps on giving.