Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090768They already do, at least two innocent men committed suicide because of one false allegations and the other allegations without proof thanks to the poundmetoo asshats, the first in Argentina his GF accused him and latter admitted it was a lie, but the guy killed himself thanks to the woke brigade. The other here in México an artist killed himself because nobody would believe in him after being accused without proof by the woke crowd.

And this are the ones I know of, there are probably more.

And do you know what the response of some of the world class asshats at TBP was when it was pointed out that innocent men were suffering from false allegations? I fucking kid you not, "that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make". Like HOLY FUCK! Are you kidding me? You're willing to pay the price of someone else's life for a fucking lie? That is the character of the "woke" crowd.

I wish I kept the link handy, but I didn't think to and can't find it now. I wish I could say you guys would be amazed. But I doubt you would be.

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1090781And do you know what the response of some of the world class asshats at TBP was when it was pointed out that innocent men were suffering from false allegations? I fucking kid you not, "that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make". Like HOLY FUCK! Are you kidding me? You're willing to pay the price of someone else's life for a fucking lie? That is the character of the "woke" crowd.

I wish I kept the link handy, but I didn't think to and can't find it now. I wish I could say you guys would be amazed. But I doubt you would be.

Quick some troll get in there and accuse a mod of sexual assault.

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1090781And do you know what the response of some of the world class asshats at TBP was when it was pointed out that innocent men were suffering from false allegations? I fucking kid you not, "that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make". Like HOLY FUCK! Are you kidding me? You're willing to pay the price of someone else's life for a fucking lie? That is the character of the "woke" crowd.

I wish I kept the link handy, but I didn't think to and can't find it now. I wish I could say you guys would be amazed. But I doubt you would be.

It's good to have somewhere to go when you need to channel some pure evil into your villains.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1090670There's nothing confusing here.

1) GM lists his games as 18+ at the con with very limited info in his teaser blurb. UKGE approves his events.

2) GM runs a "body horror" rpg session where the PCs are somehow, perhaps mysteriously violated.

3) One player has an online hissy fit, lying about what happened in the game.

4) The UK MSM, an MSM even more fucked up than the USA MSM, runs with the liar's story and does zero actual journalism.

5) The usual suspects on social media screech for the GM to "suffer" for daring to run that game.

The important piece to note is #1. The UKGE claims to be a "family friendly con" which is a laughably bullshit marketing spam, but they clearly offer people the option to run 18+ games which by their very definition, won't be family friendly. And we know that the teaser blurb was approved by whoever runs their RPG section as the game was put on the con roster and fully approved.

Body Horror is a sexually invasive genre. Look at Alien. The monster shoves its dick down your throat and its baby bursts out your chest. Look at vampires. The monster gives you sexual ecstasy by sucking out your blood. But in the case of Vamps and Aliens, we keep a veneer of distance from the sexuality of the body horror. This GM? He abducted his PCs and they awoke with ass pains.

RPGs are about immersion. Immersion in public in a body horror game is going to cause some squick in some people. It's why its a poor genre to ever use at a convention with strangers.

Especially in our current era which has clearly gone full retard.

Well maybe if the GM had run with metaphor that required interpretation then he would have pulled it off. But there's a giant difference between metaphor and "you just got raped."

I agree though, there are games you run in the privacy of your own home with like minded people, and then there is a completely different kind of game you run in public with strangers.

EDIT:
And because its important: the actual Gm talking about what happened: https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/2019/06/04/rpg-interview-with-kevin-rolfe-uk-games-expos-infamous-gang-rape-games-master/

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1090780And apparently neither did the game in question!

Fuck. Okay so must I dig through  for a link to find out what really happened? Going back through the posts.....now.

EDIT: What are you alluding to that I am missing here?
https://archive.is/5UN37

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090193"Gang rape fictional teenagers"

Kick him out? Yes
Ban him? Probably
Ruin his life and that of anybody close to him that doesn't join in the witch hunt? Hell no!

I'm thinking none of the above actions were appropriate. "Cancel his games for the specific module" would have been enough as far as I am concerned. The rest is modern society's overkill mentality at work.

Quote from: camazotz;1090779one movie my eight year old wants to see but can't (Deadpool) unless I stand in front of the TV and turn down the volume about twenty times,

A bit out of context, but isn't that part of why they made the Once Upon a Deadpool with Fred Savage?

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1090781And do you know what the response of some of the world class asshats at TBP was when it was pointed out that innocent men were suffering from false allegations? I fucking kid you not, "that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make". Like HOLY FUCK! Are you kidding me? You're willing to pay the price of someone else's life for a fucking lie? That is the character of the "woke" crowd.

I wish I kept the link handy, but I didn't think to and can't find it now. I wish I could say you guys would be amazed. But I doubt you would be.

I have seen more than one feminazi say exactly the same thing. They are willing to pay the price of killing innocent men in the of chance they get one guilty. The true horror being THEY aren't paying shit, it's those innocent men who are paying the price for the lies and the lynching mob.

The same attitude led to many innocent black men being lynched in the not so distant past of the USA, both times promoted by the same party. Funny how that works.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1090706Why is a "family friendly" con approving 18+ content?

Because it's "family friendly" not exclusively for families. If I took my kids to see a family friendly film at the cinema then I wouldn't object to the adult content of other films playing. Would you?

Quote from: camazotz;1090787Fuck. Okay so must I dig through  for a link to find out what really happened? Going back through the posts.....now.

No, need, here, have a link https://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?40678-Interview-with-the-GM-at-the-centre-of-the-UKGE-gang-rape-kerfuffle

Quote from: camazotz;1090788I'm thinking none of the above actions were appropriate. "Cancel his games for the specific module" would have been enough as far as I am concerned. The rest is modern society's overkill mentality at work.

And after watching Grim's video about the interview I agree with you, mainly because it seems there were no underage players, PCs or gang rape of any kind.

Quote from: Anselyn;1090791Because it's "family friendly" not exclusively for families. If I took my kids to see a family friendly film at the cinema then I wouldn't object to the adult content of other films playing. Would you?

This implies separated rooms for different content, which would negate what some argued as a good reason to ban the dude. The probability of a kid walking behind while the adult content was being described. I don't know if infact UKGE has those separate rooms or not.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090792No, need, here, have a link https://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?40678-Interview-with-the-GM-at-the-centre-of-the-UKGE-gang-rape-kerfuffle

Oooh okay now that is really interesting. First: whole scenario sounds generally disgusting, not my cup of tea (but hey, whatever everyone else enjoys), but aside from that, what is most intriguing is the idea that what the GM was going for was not what the players interpreted, and he realizes that at some point it got off the rails. I've had that happen to me as a GM, in fact as recently as last Saturday I had my players asking "what about that guy you mentioned with the king" and I was like, "what are you talking about?!?!?" as I had only described the king, his three wives, and the three women he had taken as political prisoners. I eventually realized that while I hadn't specifically mentioned another person up there, the players inferred it from something I said, plus an expectation that had built up from a prior session in which they became convinced there was a conspirator who kidnapped the women and was part of the escort of the three political prisoners....so when they got to this meeting point their imaginations filled in some gaps I wasn't aware of.

Thanks for the link. Technically what I posted earlier still stands but apparently as a generality to a fictitious scenario.

Quote from: camazotz;1090796Oooh okay now that is really interesting. First: whole scenario sounds generally disgusting, not my cup of tea, but aside from that, what is most intriguing is the idea that what the GM was going for was not what the players interpreted, and he realizes that at some point it got off the rails. I've had that happen to me as a GM, in fact as recently as last Saturday I had my players asking "what about that guy you mentioned with the king" and I was like, "what are you talking about?!?!?" as I had only described the king, his three wives, and the three women he had taken as political prisoners. I eventually realized that while I hadn't specifically mentioned another person up there, the players inferred it from something I said, plus an expectation that had built up from a prior session in which they became convinced there was a conspirator who kidnapped the women and was part of the escort of the three political prisoners....so when they got to this meeting point their imaginations filled in some gaps I wasn't aware of.

Thanks for the link. Technically what I posted earlier still stands but apparently as a generality to a fictitious scenario.

One player, after the session had ended, only one. And surprise, surprise it seems it was a danger hair.

Quote from: camazotzBut at no point do any of these movies grapple with a bunch of teens being sexually abused and gang raped.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1090780And apparently neither did the game in question!

By his own account, the GM had the characters all roofied, waking up naked and handcuffed with their assholes sore - with no explanation given. He claims that their asses being sore was from diarrhea, but he gave no clue of that to the players. Even if the victim isn't penetrated - if a criminal knocks them out, strips them naked, and handcuffs them to others - that's likely to be considered sexual abuse.

More broadly, speaking in general here as someone who has run both kid-friendly and mature-theme games at conventions. There's a lot of middle ground between being kid-friendly, and having a scene like this. Mature themes (18+) can just mean bad language or references to consensual sex. Having planned rape (or implied rape) of PCs calls for a different flag or warning, in my opinion.

When I ran Bluebeard's Bride, say, I definitely asked players about their lines. In my last run, at Kublacon a few weeks ago, one of my players said they weren't comfortable with having sexual violence to PCs. And I'm very glad that I asked.