Quote from: HappyDaze;1090287So you're saying that all of this is because you predict bad behavior rather than because it's actually happening?

Someone else posted a link in another thread about this, and the GM isn't even named. I sounded like kicking the GM out was the end of it.

I predict the moon will rise tonight, the Sun will set today and then rise tomorrow. Do I have evidence? No, I have a pattern and no reason to believe the pattern will stop repeating itself.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090293I predict the moon will rise tonight, the Sun will set today and then rise tomorrow. Do I have evidence? No, I have a pattern and no reason to believe the pattern will stop repeating itself.

You seem far too invested in making this thing a bigger thing that it seems to be.

Bored now.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090292First they came for Alex Jones, and I said nothing because I don't watch his content.

First they came for the asshats, and I said nothing because I don't enjoy their asshatery.

And that's all I have to say about this to those willing to let the woke pearlclutchers destroy that particular asshat's life.

What you seem determined to ignore is that the DM that is being targeted ruined his own life. Never ever include themes such as sexual assault at any gaming table ever. If those participating agree to include it at the gaming table one takes a cellphone video of them giving their consent to join. If they refuse then one that scenario is never ever run let alone mentioned ever again. More importantly never admit to including such material just to push people buttons for shits and giggles. The particular DM fucked up, gave them the rope to hang him with and now has to face the consequences of his own actions. If assuming people should own up to their own mistakes makes me a pearlcluther than so be it.

Again he fucked up big time seemed determined to do it to get a reaction presumably a negative one you thought nothing would happen especially in today PC rpg culture.

Quote from: sureshot;1090296What you seem determined to ignore is that the DM that is being targeted ruined his own life. Never ever include themes such as sexual assault at any gaming table ever. If those participating agree to include it at the gaming table one takes a cellphone video of them giving their consent to join. If they refuse then one that scenario is never ever run let alone mentioned ever again. More importantly never admit to including such material just to push people buttons for shits and giggles. The particular DM fucked up, gave them the rope to hang him with and now has to face the consequences of his own actions. If assuming people should own up to their own mistakes makes me a pearlcluther than so be it.

Again he fucked up big time seemed determined to do it to get a reaction presumably a negative one you thought nothing would happen especially in today PC rpg culture.

Yeah, I know he brought it on himself, and you seem pretty happy to let the SJWs destroy him because you don't like the shock jock theme.

I don't like the theme either, I just happen to think that letting the woke morons destroy ppl is never a good thing.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090299Yeah, I know he brought it on himself, and you seem pretty happy to let the SJWs destroy him because you don't like the shock jock theme.

The offending DM brought this on himself. He should have never run such a scenario without the consent of players either captured on film to prove his innocence. Or some other form in writing on paper or an email. Then when it offends his players like the DM knew it would they admit to doing it on purpose to get a negative reaction. We are not talking about an SJW sad that the DM was too graphic in the depiction of the death o his character. We are talking about a DM who on purpose decided to include sexual assault into one his games for simple shits and giggles and to see how far he could push his players. He all but asked to be banned from the hobby and become the rpg version of an pariah. I'm not an SJW yet neither terribly sad when a DM goes out of his way to purposefully self destruct his own career as a DM so to speak to push people buttons. Actions have consequences and he did something truly stupid now he has to pay for it. I'm not an SJW and he and any other DM who would such a stunt would be banned from my table. No exceptions, non-negotiable. If I'm at a con they get reported. I'm assuming the offending DM is an adult  and should have known without being told not to put sexual assault willingly into their scenarios. Anyone who does that deserves what they get. It's like your trying to downplay the severity of what he did just to push the narrative that the SJWs are ruining his life. They DM ruined his own life.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090299I don't like the theme either, I just happen to think that letting the woke morons destroy ppl is never a good thing.

The offending DM destroyed himself. If one has to be told not to put sexual assault into their campaigns they are either the most clueless social person on the planet or not giving the the absolute shits about what happens to them. Either way they don't get my support because they should know better. This was not a DM who committed a minor infraction he included a rape scene in his campaign. Yes the offended players should have left. You know what though the DM should have never included such a disturbing topic in the first place. Sexual assault is one of those topics where both SJWs and anti-SJWs both agree is a VERY bad thing. The offending DM was a dumbass , should have known better and now pays the price for his easily avoidable stupidity.

Quote from: sureshot;1090301The offending DM was a dumbass , should have known better and now pays the price for his easily avoidable stupidity.

So... he was ejected from the con, and banned from future cons.  Is there no room in your viewpoint for him to recognize he fucked up, and insure that he doesn't make similar boneheaded choices in the future?

The GM in question lacked basic common sense. He disregarded the fact the con was a public venue. And that there is just content you do not ever bring to a public venue.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1090305The GM in question lacked basic common sense. He disregarded the fact the con was a public venue. And that there is just content you do not ever bring to a public venue.

More than that - he didn't warn his participants there would be ANY adult material, let alone what he eventually sprang on them. The scenario submitted to the organisers did not include any mature material at all.

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1090302So... he was ejected from the con, and banned from future cons.  Is there no room in your viewpoint for him to recognize he fucked up, and insure that he doesn't make similar boneheaded choices in the future?

Given the DM reaction after the game ended and the nature of the material he did not just fuckup he went out of his way to fuck up on purpose. The DM fuck up could have been easily avoided and his ejection also avoided if he used common sense and not put that kind of material in his scenario at the con. It's not even common sense anyone on a personal level who actually gave a fuck about anything would know not to include sexual assault in scenario being run at a con at a public venue. He also pulled a bait and switch with the con organizers by not including the adult material to be vetted by them only to spring it on his players at the table. No warning to the players beyond the 18+ rating yet in today PC gaming culture that could mean simply killing a goblinl. Though if the game has an 18+ rating it should have been a huge warning sign to anyone that it would not be your standard con game.

Make an innocent mistake I'm all for a second chance. Playing mind games with the players and the con for shits and giggles no second chance. Even then only with a public apology on Youtube for being a truly fucking stupid dumbass who gives the hobby a bad name.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1090305The GM in question lacked basic common sense. He disregarded the fact the con was a public venue. And that there is just content you do not ever bring to a public venue.

Quote from: spon;1090306More than that - he didn't warn his participants there would be ANY adult material, let alone what he eventually sprang on them. The scenario submitted to the organisers did not include any mature material at all.

Agreed and seconded on both posts. With the intent to play mind games for shits and giggles because he could.

QuoteThe thing is (And I bet I'm right) the moron wasn't offended but titillated by the "Edgy Mcbearded rape fantasy scenario". Then got a guilty conscience for enjoying it and blamed the GM for the sin

Sooooo... according to you (because you bet you're right), the people who turned up expecting a game of 'Stranger Things', and got paedophile gang rape instead are a) morons; b) secretly turned on by it? Fucking wow. Do you think (because you know you're right) that not liking child rape is somehow abnormal? Or do you think they were morons for expecting a game that maybe didn't include child rape and obviously shoulda fucking known better? And sure, yeah, it's so obviously not the GM's fault because they were getting off on the idea and then got struck by a case of Catholic guilt?

You really are a fucking class act, pal. Still like you said: 'everyone's got a right to be an asshole', and you sure do like to exercise your fucking rights, don't you?

Quote from: BrokenCounsel;1090315Sooooo... according to you (because you bet you're right), the people who turned up expecting a game of 'Stranger Things', and got paedophile gang rape instead are a) morons; b) secretly turned on by it? Fucking wow. Do you think (because you know you're right) that not liking child rape is somehow abnormal? Or do you think they were morons for expecting a game that maybe didn't include child rape and obviously shoulda fucking known better? And sure, yeah, it's so obviously not the GM's fault because they were getting off on the idea and then got struck by a case of Catholic guilt?

You really are a fucking class act, pal. Still like you said: 'everyone's got a right to be an asshole', and you sure do like to exercise your fucking rights, don't you?

So now it was paedophile gang rape? The characters were teens, so you're wrong.

And exactly where do you draw the line in regards to free speech?

Yes, I'm a class act, I have enough class to follow my liberal principles "I disagree with what you say but would fight for your right to say it"

You on the other hand have no principles and act depending if you agree or not with the speech. So either a right wing SJW or a left wing one.

Your argument is "won't somebody think of the children?" as if that guy being a shock jock actually raped somebody.

Also, I thought you were bored with me?

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1090302So... he was ejected from the con, and banned from future cons.  Is there no room in your viewpoint for him to recognize he fucked up, and insure that he doesn't make similar boneheaded choices in the future?

Doesn't seem like there's any room for redemption for being a neckbeard shock jock. Eerily familiar with the SJWs, where do we draw the line? What is "justified" grounds to destroy some asshole's life? And are we sure the woke morons won't move the goal post and keep on reducing what's acceptable?

When they start going after what we find acceptable will be too late.

If you don't defend the rights of those you disagree with you don't believe in rights but in privileges.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090316And exactly where do you draw the line in regards to free speech?

You do realize that free speech is only in respect to the government - right?

The convention isn't run by the government and has no requirement to allow creepy GMs to do whatever they want to.

This is hard to decide because the guy should had fucking told them there would be teenager rape involved in his game.  I mean not telling them that is a douche move and I can certainly see why the players would complain about it.  On the other hand free speech...  I am neutral on this as both sides are fucking things up.