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The Woke Morons started a witchhunt in UKGE

Started by GeekyBugle, June 01, 2019, 10:24:30 PM

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Abraxus

I read the overview of the offending DMs game it exonerates him somewhat but man what a dumbass. There is forgetting parts of the scenario being tun and then him. Even then drugging the PCs is all that is needed. Having the drug that knocks their character out give them diarrhea just seemed really unnessary and imo uneeded element of the story. The DM really needs to get a clue.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: soltakss;1090528By the way, does anyone think what the DM did was a good thing and he shouldn't have been sanctioned for it?

Lets see, no underage characters or players, no fucking gang rape, I would say that yes, he shouldn't have been sanctioned.

I'll go even further, the snowflake that started the moral panic and witch hunt should be perma baned from all conventions for life.

https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/2019/06/04/rpg-interview-with-kevin-rolfe-uk-games-expos-infamous-gang-rape-games-master/
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

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GeekyBugle

Quote from: sureshot;1090569I read the overview of the offending DMs game it exonerates him somewhat but man what a dumbass. There is forgetting parts of the scenario being tun and then him. Even then drugging the PCs is all that is needed. Having the drug that knocks their character out give them diarrhea just seemed really unnessary and imo uneeded element of the story. The DM really needs to get a clue.

No gang rape at all of underage or otherwise characters, but it only exonerates him somewhat?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Ratman_tf

Quote from: sureshot;1090569I read the overview of the offending DMs game it exonerates him somewhat but man what a dumbass. There is forgetting parts of the scenario being tun and then him. Even then drugging the PCs is all that is needed. Having the drug that knocks their character out give them diarrhea just seemed really unnessary and imo uneeded element of the story. The DM really needs to get a clue.

No fun. No purile jokes. No poo humor. Everyone be serious when playing make believe games!
Shit, this would be mild stuff for a game of Paranoia.
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Ratman_tf

#95
Quote from: soltakss;1090528By the way, does anyone think what the DM did was a good thing and he shouldn't have been sanctioned for it?

After hearing/reading the interview with Rolfe and Grim, probably yes.
Looks like the internet mob, as usual, grabbed it's pitchforks at the first sign of a rustling bush and went to work burning everything in sight and stabbing everyone who looked suspicious.

BUT AT LEAST NO ONE WILL BE OFFENDED AGAIN!
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1090576After hearing/reading the interview with Rolfe and Grim, probably yes.
Looks like the internet mob, as usual, grabbed it's pitchforks at the first sign of a rustling bush and went to work burning everything in sight and stabbing everyone who looked suspicious.

BUT AT LEAST NO ONE WILL BE OFFENDED AGAIN!

Thank $hillary praised be her name.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Gagarth

Quote from: sureshot;1090569I read the overview of the offending DMs game it exonerates him somewhat but man what a dumbass. There is forgetting parts of the scenario being tun and then him. Even then drugging the PCs is all that is needed. Having the drug that knocks their character out give them diarrhea just seemed really unnessary and imo uneeded element of the story. The DM really needs to get a clue.

Have you seen the Inbetweeners?
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

Gagarth

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090567So I meet another commie that defends freedom, glad to meet you, even if we don't agree in anything but freedom.

Who are you responding to here?
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Gagarth;1090580Who are you responding to here?


Forgot to quote him :

Quote from: Catelf;1090527I kind of disagree on "Forever. He deserves it."

Agreed.

As a fan of the original KULT rpg ... kind of ... not to mention a fan of understanding what 18+ MEANS ....
This is just nonsensical.
Me?
Leftist, defends communism, liberal values, empathetic, and so on.
I frankly applauded the idea of being "Woke" when it started.
But this is nonsense.

Horror is HORROR.
It is not supposed to be cuddly, it may very well spring uncomfortable shit on your ass!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: kythri;1090568Grim interviewed the dude:

https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/2019/06/04/rpg-interview-with-kevin-rolfe-uk-games-expos-infamous-gang-rape-games-master/?fbclid=IwAR1Nm94V5kTvvcoXxZxPM25UZozfTUUmUzUduFHt8eKoY6lF4oa8cXg_KhA

He claims he's got a recording of the session, and that these are false accusations.

Having read the interview, I fully cop here to the mistake of taking first accounts as read without checking. If this is an accurate description of the game, then everything I said about bullying and sanctions is irrelevant.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

STR 8 DEX 10 CON 10 INT 11 WIS 6 CHA 3

Gagarth

Now that I have seen who made the complaint it is quite obvious that she had not read the scenario synopsis  (a major failing of a lot players) the snowflake obviously just saw Things from the Flood and automatically thought Things from the Flood->Tales from the Loop->Kids on bikes->Stranger Things->My little Pony.  As soon she turned up with the multi- coloured dreads alarm bells should have been ringing and he should have take himself off to bed instead.
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

jhkim

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser;1090584Having read the interview, I fully cop here to the mistake of taking first accounts as read without checking. If this is an accurate description of the game, then everything I said about bullying and sanctions is irrelevant.
So, I'm glad that he got in his side of the story - and it sucks that the BBC failed to get a statement from him for the story. That said, though, he claims that them waking up naked and handcuffed with their bums sore was supposed to represent their diarrhea from the drug - and he just forgot to say that they were covered in poo or otherwise give clues to this explanation.

I gotta say, that sounds fishy to me. It would certainly come across as rape to me, and I suspect the diarrhea explanation is an after-the-fact excuse to get out of trouble. Even if this was really what he intended at the time, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't realize the implication of rape in that setup.

Also, this was a planned event at the start of the third act - which is a terrible time for it, in my opinion. Whatever they did in the first two acts didn't matter - they are always going to have that happen.

Still, if he's been running games for years, they should have collected feedback from other players to see if there is any pattern of complaints. Permanently banning someone should involve more than one person's complaint.

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: jhkim;1090587I gotta say, that sounds fishy to me. It would certainly come across as rape to me, and I suspect the diarrhea explanation is an after-the-fact excuse to get out of trouble.

Truthfully, I suspect it'd come off like that to me as well at the time -- but the thing is, if I thought that was what happened and I was bothered by it, I would have said something right there and then. That nobody claimed to have done so strikes me as fishy. And while it's conceivable this is a retroactive re-envisioning, I have to say that the game scenario as described (and there would be no point misrepresenting that, it would be too easily checked and verified) really makes the GM's explanation sound more plausible than not. If the genre is gross-out dark comedy (and all the players knew this, or should have known this if they'd paid any attention to the blurb), well, diarrhea is funnier than rape (as any fan of the movie Bridesmaids can confirm).

And if the players were in fact all 18+ and no actual rape was depicted, only inferred (both points also fairly easily verified), then as far as accurate accounts go I'm already less inclined to believe the popular reports than Mr. Rolfe's.

QuoteStill, if he's been running games for years, they should have collected feedback from other players to see if there is any pattern of complaints. Permanently banning someone should involve more than one person's complaint.

Agreed.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

STR 8 DEX 10 CON 10 INT 11 WIS 6 CHA 3

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Gagarth;1090585Now that I have seen who made the complaint it is quite obvious that she had not read the scenario synopsis  (a major failing of a lot players) the snowflake obviously just saw Things from the Flood and automatically thought Things from the Flood->Tales from the Loop->Kids on bikes->Stranger Things->My little Pony.  As soon she turned up with the multi- coloured dreads alarm bells should have been ringing and he should have take himself off to bed instead.

A link or archive or screencap for the shitlords blocked by the woke crowd?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell