There is a serious lack of empathy in this thread, only to be expected, I suppose.

• Dick GMed a game with seriously questionable content
• Player was upset by the content and complained
• Dick was banned from GMing at the convention for life

This turns into victim-blaming, calling the player an attention-whore and loads of stuff about GMs should be able to GM what they like no matter how it affects the Players.

Sad, really.

Quote from: soltakss;1093106There is a serious lack of empathy in this thread, only to be expected, I suppose.

• Dick GMed a game with seriously questionable content

Few have actually supported what the GM ran. Most think it was a bad idea. Some have said that it was listed as 18+, and that should have been enough disclaimer.

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• Player was upset by the content and complained

On social media first, and not to the convention staff. Which, as noted, did result in some uninvolved gon-goers being targeted for harassment.
 

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• Dick was banned from GMing at the convention for life

Some have questioned whether a lifetime ban was appropriate for a GM with no previous complaints and a spotless record.

QuoteThis turns into victim-blaming, calling the player an attention-whore and loads of stuff about GMs should be able to GM what they like no matter how it affects the Players.

Sad, really.

Empathy without wisdom is foolishness.

Quote from: soltakss;1093106There is a serious lack of empathy in this thread,

Empathy for what? Some clown who's fee fees got hurt? Some morons who showed up at a 18+ game about drunk idiots on spring break and then shat themselves when naughty stuff happened to their imaginary characters they'd been playing for a couple hours?

Fuck them.

Empathy is for people who actually suffer real shit.

Quote from: soltakss;1093106There is a serious lack of empathy in this thread, only to be expected, I suppose.

• Dick GMed a game with seriously questionable content
• Player was upset by the content and complained
• Dick was banned from GMing at the convention for life

This turns into victim-blaming, calling the player an attention-whore and loads of stuff about GMs should be able to GM what they like no matter how it affects the Players.

Sad, really.

You forget to mention the outrage mob that it fuelled. Sad, really. Also give me a break about victim blaming.  If someone can get so traumatised by an event in an RPG session they could be classed as a victim then they should not me out in public in the first place.  Is some tender soul who goes to see a Hostel movie thinking they where going to see Murder on the Orient Express a victim? You are shittting on real victims.

Quote from: Gagarth;1093167You are shittting on real victims.

Oh dear that may have triggered someone.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1093104A few members of my groups also play in public places (game stores & cons). None of them have experienced any issues, but they are fairly well-adjusted people. If there were a true threat to their enjoyment, I'd care, but none of them have really expressed such concerns (and certainly not in the grossly exaggerated fashion that some think is needed).

I think the concerns behind this are a bit akin to "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist."
From what I have seen over the last 5 years from the left, these concerns are exaggerated but not entirely without merit.

Quote from: soltakss;1093106This turns into victim-blaming

This here, this is the problem we're having. Your choice of words. Victim.
Also, the accusation of attention-whoring stems from the perception of somewhat mild discomfort/inconvenience being artificially inflated into suffering of a level that warrants the label "victim".

Note that I have no complaint about your calling what the GM did a dick move.

Quote from: soltakss;1093106There is a serious lack of empathy in this thread, only to be expected, I suppose.

• Dick GMed a game with seriously questionable content
• Player was upset by the content and complained
• Dick was banned from GMing at the convention for life

This turns into victim-blaming, calling the player an attention-whore and loads of stuff about GMs should be able to GM what they like no matter how it affects the Players.

Sad, really.

Nonsense...

The GM made a stupid mistake by using material that he should have not used at a con. It's hardly the end of the world...

A player was upset... That's regrettable. But how upset was she really, it's only a game at the end of the day - She or anyone could have left there immediately after the incident and complained but they chose not to, why sit through it ifit was so bad?

Lack of empathy? Kettle... Black... So, the GM gets banned for life (apparently) and is universally shunned for making a stupid but idiotic mistake? And is hounded on social media.

Now, I would have more sympathy for 'this whole jihad' if he'd have done this as a malicious act or went out of his way to deliberately hurt the player (or was trying to sleaze on her). But he didn't as far as I know.

I think the con did the right thing in asking him to leave, at least until the dust settled. Then they could have just given him a 'good talking too' and that would be the end of it... But if they have banned him for life I think it's out of order assuming he's apologized and said he won't do it again. I'd be interested in knowing if they even gave him a chance to speak about the incident or at least given a chance to apologize?

Quote from: Spinachcat;1093141Empathy is for people who actually suffer real shit.

Absolutely...