Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1092776Thing is the same can be said of all the hypothetical misuses of the #XCard people keep presenting, and I've yet to see one real world example which supports these conclusions.

I've heard a supposed real-world story of a player being a jerk about the X-card. But even if that was true, it doesn't mean that it's the normal case -- any more than the various other RPG horror stories are the normal case.

I've played a bunch of games with the X-card, and it hasn't been an issue. I don't think it's necessary - but complaints that it automatically or regularly ruins games are false.

Quote from: RandyB;1092778Feature, not bug.

I agree that it was designed thusly.

Quote from: jhkim;1092790I've heard a supposed real-world story of a player being a jerk about the X-card.

You'll hear another one if any convention GM puts an X-card in front of me!

The new title of the game session will instantly become "Spinachcat fucks with morons."

I'll be triggered every five minutes, but too traumatized to explain anything, then demanding the GM to jump to my unknown phobias. I'll even change pronouns mid-game!

Watching the human garbage writhe about will be far more enjoyable than whatever the clown GM would have planned anyway.

Quote from: Gagarth;1091585Here is a good target for your x-card.

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The broad with the snakes in her hair?  Snakes... *shiver*

Jessica Price and her hate mob have whipped themselves into such a frenzy they are now comparing being detained by ICE to getting sent to a Nazi extermination camp.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1092440If you go to Twitter you will find that kind of stuff. The solution should be obvious: don't go to Twitter unless that's what you want to find.

Maybe because this about way more than people saying something annoying.  These people have been handed the power by companies, MSM and governments , to effect how we entertain ourselves and what ideas we are allowed to hear or read and from the way you constantly downplay this you are obviously more than happy with that.

Quote from: Gagarth;1092876Maybe because this about way more than people saying something annoying.  These people have been handed the power by companies, MSM and governments , to effect how we entertain ourselves and what ideas we are allowed to hear or read and from the way you constantly downplay this you are obviously more than happy with that.

Explain to me how this impacts how I'm allowed to entertain myself? Since we're on the RPG board, try to keep it related to RPGs. For the record, I own quite a bit, can play/run whatever the fuck I want at my private games (my home or the homes of my players) with the people I've selected to play with, and I've never had anyone get in the way of that. If I played in public places with strangers, I accept that I have to follow the rules of the venue. If I don't want to do that (and I don't), I don't play there.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1092879Explain to me how this impacts how I'm allowed to entertain myself? Since we're on the RPG board, try to keep it related to RPGs. For the record, I own quite a bit, can play/run whatever the fuck I want at my private games (my home or the homes of my players) with the people I've selected to play with, and I've never had anyone get in the way of that. If I played in public places with strangers, I accept that I have to follow the rules of the venue. If I don't want to do that (and I don't), I don't play there.

So everyone who does not conform to the outrage mobs the have to play in private homes? what happens if some woke fuck manages to get into your game  and you don't have the correct gender or poc  mix in you pc's and npc's and they doxx you on twitter.  

Also who do think are getting to dictate the standards at public venues?  If the outrages mobs ability to censor continues at the pace that it is currently at  how long before you have to submit scenarios to be vetted by an ideological pure committee  and if it does not meet the required  standards you will be public shamed and banned from every public rpg venue.

Here is  a good example of the start of this sort of thing from the Roll20 standards which used to restrict only certain people.

QuoteInclusivity

All Looking for Group postings and listings should be in the spirit of inclusion as opposed to exclusion. This will allow you to best attract the gaming group you wish to play with instead of attempting to repel those you don't.

Additionally, we ask that you refrain from creating a post seeking someone of a specific different background (such as creed, disability, gender, orientation, race, etc.)  than yourself. While we appreciate a desire for inclusion, such posts specifically targeting a group becomes an issue of tokenism-- looking to fill a spot with someone removed of their individuality save for that specific descriptor.

Any attempt to discourage others from playing through the use of bullying, discrimination, or harassment, is subject to the same moderation actions as outlined in the Discrimination and Harassment section of the Code of Conduct.

Yet the following LFG listing is perfectly acceptable given the lack of comment from moderators and the fact that a Roll20 employee has applied.

Quote[LFG/DM] Looking for LGBT+ women to form a group!

But posting to this thread about the Inclusivity clause would get you moderated.

Quote from: Gagarth;1092884So everyone who does not conform to the outrage mobs the have to play in private homes? what happens if some woke fuck manages to get into your game  and you don't have the correct gender or poc  mix in you pc's and npc's and they doxx you on twitter.  

Also who do think are getting to dictate the standards at public venues?  If the outrages mobs ability to censor continues at the pace that it is currently at  how long before you have to submit scenarios to be vetted by an ideological pure committee  and if it does not meet the required  standards you will be public shamed and banned from every public rpg venue.

Here is  a good example of the start of this sort of thing from the Roll20 standards which used to restrict only certain people.



Yet the following LFG listing is perfectly acceptable given the lack of comment from moderators and the fact that a Roll20 employee has applied.



But posting to this thread about the Inclusivity clause would get you moderated.

Nice barely intelligible rant.

I don't have to play in my home (or, occasionally, one of my players' homes), but I choose to. We could play elsewhere, but why?

As for your infiltrator/social media terrorist, it's alarmist bullshit. I'm fairly selective about who I allow into my home, and if somebody does something illegal, law enforcement can be called. If they just want to bitch on Twitter, whatever... I won't see it and don't care.

I also don't use Roll20, so that matters not at all to me.

I think I see the problem you have. Your gaming needs are at least somewhat dependent upon things out of your control that likely intersect with people that don't like you (for whatever reason). Maybe you should fix that.

Quote from: Gagarth;1092875Jessica Price and her hate mob have whipped themselves into such a frenzy they are now comparing being detained by ICE to getting sent to a Nazi extermination camp.

I find getting statements from actual victims of the Jewish holocaust helps with that.

Quote from: Gagarth;1092884Yet the following LFG listing is perfectly acceptable given the lack of comment from moderators and the fact that a Roll20 employee has applied.

#Roll20 has never been consistent or honest with their policies, and this isn't the first time I've seen exactly this sort of thing.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1092885I think I see the problem you have. Your gaming needs are at least somewhat dependent upon things out of your control that likely intersect with people that don't like you (for whatever reason). Maybe you should fix that.

Maybe should get out of your basement and see what is going on.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1092879Explain to me how this impacts how I'm allowed to entertain myself? Since we're on the RPG board, try to keep it related to RPGs. For the record, .

For the record everything I have posted is related to gaming in a public space maybe you should go read the title of thread again. I will give you a clue it is about gaming in a public space not about the handpicked troglodytes you have hand picked (or grown in vat)  to play in your basement.

Quote from: Gagarth;1093057Maybe should get out of your basement and see what is going on.

Quote from: Gagarth;1093060For the record everything I have posted is related to gaming in a public space maybe you should go read the title of thread again. I will give you a clue it is about gaming in a public space not about the handpicked troglodytes you have hand picked (or grown in vat)  to play in your basement.

Personal attacks. You're wasting your time, and you're wasting my time too. I'm just going to ignore you now.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1092885I think I see the problem you have. Your gaming needs are at least somewhat dependent upon things out of your control that likely intersect with people that don't like you (for whatever reason). Maybe you should fix that.

He is. At least to some extent here on the forums hashing it out. You seem to have no problems since you game far away from anybody, so why do you care?

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1093099He is. At least to some extent here on the forums hashing it out. You seem to have no problems since you game far away from anybody, so why do you care?

A few members of my groups also play in public places (game stores & cons). None of them have experienced any issues, but they are fairly well-adjusted people. If there were a true threat to their enjoyment, I'd care, but none of them have really expressed such concerns (and certainly not in the grossly exaggerated fashion that some think is needed).