Quote from: GeekyBugle;1092270"victim blaming"
"victim"

Yeah, the "victim" of a fictitious rape against a fictitious character that was not even described but just inferred by the player.

Both the players that have gone public said the rape was not just implied. The organizer who has known the GM for a decade and talked to all but one of the players and the GM (only one to talk to both) bounced the GM for life. But, yes, let's pretend it was only "implied".

QuoteAnd one of the players went to twitter to comment on the bad experience she had because that is what social media is used for, to make comments.

As you seem in-fucking-capable of reading, let me spell out to you what I'm saying.

1. I've already, several fucking times, pointed out that the players had a genuine grievance, dumb ass.
2. I'm not rebuking the players for commenting on twitter. I'm saying that using twitter first, rather than trying to establish the most effective way of making the complaint, is fucking stupid, and typical of the Hive Mind.

QuoteInstead of blaming her, maybe consider that it is not transparent to everyone, especially newer con attendees, of what exactly the complaint process is

It doesn't take an intellectual genius to work out that if you have a problem at a con, you find a con rep and ask them what to fucking do about it. I doesn't matter if it's your first con or your 31st con. USE SOME FUCKING COMMON SENSE.

Quoteand why they should use it.

Give me fucking strength. If you have to have it spelled out to you 'why you should use' the official channels at a well organized convention, rather than your own preferred means of communication, then honestly, you shouldn't be allowed out the fucking house. If we continue to wipe the asses of some of these people, they are gonna continue to think that their fucking saviour is right there on the end of a fucking hash tag. Before you know it, their house will be burning down, and they'll be wondering why tweeting the fucking fire brigade DIDN'T FUCKING WORK.

Seriously dude, get a fucking grip. And if you're so pissed that the Raptors' celebration parade is gonna fuck up your day, why don't you send a fucking tweet about it? That should do the trick.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1092270"victim blaming"
"victim"

Yeah, the "victim" of a fictitious rape against a fictitious character that was not even described but just inferred by the player.

The event they'd gone through some effort to attend was fucked up by the provider apparently through no fault of their own. They bitched on social media (hm, that seems familiar wonder where else that tends to happen allot...even guys that are in no way effected by what happened... maybe site or somewhere...) They lost time, part of their good time was shot because of someone else's mistake.

Saying they were the victim of a jackass isn't the same as saying it was the equivalent of being attack, but it is being a 'victim' of something. Allot of people are over reacting by trying to make it some false equivalency but the target of pick pocket, a con man, a drunk driver or someone paid for a bad show are 'victims'. Its not all on the same level. Common damn sense and understanding of language should tell anyone that if it wasn't for all Team jersey manufactured outrage bullshit that passes for thinking online.

Quote from: BrokenCounsel;1092275As you seem in-fucking-capable of reading, let me spell out to you what I'm saying.
Seriously dude, get a fucking grip. And if you're so pissed that the Raptors' celebration parade is gonna fuck up your day, why don't you send a fucking tweet about it? That should do the trick.

He could come to this site and bitch about the obvious conspiracy those moron are colluding against him or whatever to work up a good rage boner for several pages.  It seems to work for allot of the other site members. This place used to at least be good for a few giggles, now its just...sad.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1092273I have grown to hate the term "victim".

But you depict one so well... as do so many on this site.

That aside what word then would you use for someone with a genuine grievance over something negative that occurred to them due to the action, inaction, thoughtlessness of another?

Quote from: CarlD.;1092278The event they'd gone through some effort to attend was fucked up by the provider apparently through no fault of their own. They bitched on social media (hm, that seems familiar wonder where else that tends to happen allot...even guys that are in no way effected by what happened... maybe site or somewhere...) They lost time, part of their good time was shot because of someone else's mistake.

Saying they were the victim of a jackass isn't the same as saying it was the equivalent of being attack, but it is being a 'victim' of something. Allot of people are over reacting by trying to make it some false equivalency but the target of pick pocket, a con man, a drunk driver or someone paid for a bad show are 'victims'. Its not all on the same level. Common damn sense and understanding of language should tell anyone that if it wasn't for all Team jersey manufactured outrage bullshit that passes for thinking online.

The correct term is "survivor".
They are survivors of a bad taste game.

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1092269There is no requirement that anyone has to report anything to the Con. Just like if I want to bitch about how bumpy my flight is now, I can make a Facebook post on it, I am not required to call United.

And there's no requirement that we have to put up with bullshit like this.

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1092269Focusing on this is just victim blaming. They did not drop a rape scenario like a giant turd on the table, the GM did.

Fuck victimhood.  There was no "victim" of anything.  There was an attention-whore who overreacted to a socially-inept goon.

Quote from: kythri;1092283And there's no requirement that we have to put up with bullshit like this.



Fuck victimhood.  There was no "victim" of anything.  There was an attention-whore who overreacted to a socially-inept goon.

I can bitch about a parade screwing up a business trip just like the player can bitch about a very bad tabletop role playing session. If other posters here want to call this a crusade by woke morons, when pretty much everything has backed up the story of the player that complained, then I can say they are the same thing as they are complaining about. Which I am here.

I ignore the extremes of online rpg discussion except to mock it. Not my fault that both sides ignore facts that do not suit their narrative.

Quote from: CarlD.;1092281But you depict one so well... as do so many on this site.

Ha, now who is victim blaming?

QuoteThat aside what word then would you use for someone with a genuine grievance over something negative that occurred to them due to the action, inaction, thoughtlessness of another?

There is a negative physiological reaction that happens when someone adopts a victim hood mentality.

Quote from: CarlD.;1092281But you depict one so well... as do so many on this site.

How would you say I've acted like a victim?

QuoteThat aside what word then would you use for someone with a genuine grievance over something negative that occurred to them due to the action, inaction, thoughtlessness of another?

The problem isn't the word. The problem is the social currency that being a victim affords.

Victims of a RPG session!!!

LOL.

How will those poor "survivors" ever recover? Can Twitter ever provide enough feelz and vibes to heal their trauma?

Oh, their wounds! Wounds caused by the GM's words because "Words are Weapons"!!

Bwahaha!

If we kowtow to this "woke" toddler bullshit and allow it to fester in our hobby, the hobby deserves to die.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1092320Victims of a RPG session!!!

LOL.

How will those poor "survivors" ever recover? Can Twitter ever provide enough feelz and vibes to heal their trauma?

Oh, their wounds! Wounds caused by the GM's words because "Words are Weapons"!!

Bwahaha!

If we kowtow to this "woke" toddler bullshit and allow it to fester in our hobby, the hobby deserves to die.

Luckily only a few cons and publishers will die, the hobby is safe from entryism thanks to the OGL, PDFs and POD. Fuck the Woke Morons and those who want to bend the knee too.

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1092288I can bitch about a parade screwing up a business trip

So... you were a... victim... of the parade?

And so far in this thread its mostly been more than a few of us calling out the DM for poor behavior. And calling out the main player with a problem for not handling this properly. And the con for possibly over-reacting.

After that toss in the usual SJW screeching mob as they can not leave anything alone. Ever. It does not matter anymore what happens somehow, some way these loons will leap in gunz-a-blazin.

Was the player a victim? No not really. No more than being in the presence of any sort of general foul mouthery or crassness makes you a victim of anything. Had it been specifically directed at the player then sure. That is a totally different matter and can indeed constitute an attack as it were.

But overall this thread has been surprisingly even compared to some of the other blow-ups.

Quote from: Omega;1092328So... you were a... victim... of the parade?

And so far in this thread its mostly been more than a few of us calling out the DM for poor behavior. And calling out the main player with a problem for not handling this properly. And the con for possibly over-reacting.

After that toss in the usual SJW screeching mob as they can not leave anything alone. Ever. It does not matter anymore what happens somehow, some way these loons will leap in gunz-a-blazin.

Was the player a victim? No not really. No more than being in the presence of any sort of general foul mouthery or crassness makes you a victim of anything. Had it been specifically directed at the player then sure. That is a totally different matter and can indeed constitute an attack as it were.

But overall this thread has been surprisingly even compared to some of the other blow-ups.

I had to wait in line to check in for over 40 minutes, and this was in the elite lie. The humanity of it!

And the title of the thread and the posts by GeekyBugle shows the manufactured outrage. They can take their X-Cards and shove them but that has nothing to do with the actions of the shitty GM at the con.

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1092341I had to wait in line to check in for over 40 minutes, and this was in the elite lie. The humanity of it!

And the title of the thread and the posts by GeekyBugle shows the manufactured outrage. They can take their X-Cards and shove them but that has nothing to do with the actions of the shitty GM at the con.

Agreed, there's manufactured outrage, by the woke morons and the "think of the children!" brigade. But I guess you think we should just bend the knee. Nope, not gonna happen.