Quote from: Gagarth;1091575You are the fucktard, you obviously know nothing about Essex lad culture nor 18/30 holidays  which anyone in the UK including the two whiners would have  known about. It was signaled in the game description so do some research before you post pantywaist drivel like this. The Gm's only sin was not being aware or stupidly ignoring that assholes are out to make drama  for political reasons he should never of run that scenario unless he knew everyone of the people who had signed up. He is not guilty of trying to traumatize anyone with a child rape experience and he is not guilty off not flagging  the content.

These seem regional. Being from the US, I'm not familiar with the terms. What's the gist of them?

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1091600Based on the one interview done via text?

 Yes. Was there something you found especially untrustworthy about it?

Either way all I see is a couple of players who complain that the "edgy" RPG that they signed up for was a bit too edgy. Whether there was rape or not doesn't matter that much, see my comment above.

Quote from: BrokenCounsel;1091590Following this debacle, courtesy of a prick GM, it'll get worse - not better.

The SJWs crowd will always be in ambush, and will find any pretext they can think of to dominate as much of society as they're allowed to. It has nothing to do with this particular GM, whether he decided to have the characters in his game raped or not.

Quote from: spon;1091577Previously, I thought X-cards and that sort of thing to be pretty useless,  [..] What's the betting they'll become mandatory and I'll be forced to have them at my table. Again, thanks, mate - way to go.

The SJWs crowd will always be in ambush, and will find any pretext they can think of to dominate as much of society as they're allowed to. It has nothing to do with this particular GM, whether he decided to have the characters in his game raped or not.

SJWs play strategically to gain ground. They'll back down only if they are opposed on the principles of their pseudo-faith.

Any con organizer who answers to their demands is digging his own grave. It's only a matter of time before he's pushed in it.

Resist the whiny bitches (and metaphorically kick them in the 'nads) or become their bitch, that's the choice that's offered us, fellow gamers.

I will be no bitches' bitch.

Quote from: Lychee of the Exchequer;1091620The SJWs crowd will always be in ambush, and will find any pretext they can think of to dominate as much of society as they're allowed to. It has nothing to do with this particular GM, whether he decided to have the characters in his game raped or not.

What I mean is that x cards and other safety mechanisms are more likely to become the norm for most conventions, rather than an optional tool. GMs will be forced to provide advance declarations of 'safe content', demonstrate their command of safety mechanisms, swear oaths to abide by individual player veto, guarantee that each and every game they offer is a certified safe space', and basically surrender themselves to an increasing list of 'Thou Shalts' rather then being able to run their games relatively free from bureaucratic & SJW interference. All because of a prick GM.

That SJWs are always in ambush is a given. But in this particular case, they've been handed a fucking gift.

Quote from: Gagarth;1091585Here is a good target for your x-card.

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My eyes ! My eyes ! How dare you mock this obviously oppressed cute little red guy ! Also, does it have its non-existent balls massaged ? Gross ! This here is obviously an attack on asexual Native American people !

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Hmm, I just noticed the sentences in your sig, Gagarth. Are they real quotes °_O ?

Quote from: Lychee of the Exchequer;1091622The SJWs crowd will always be in ambush, and will find any pretext they can think of to dominate as much of society as they're allowed to. It has nothing to do with this particular GM, whether he decided to have the characters in his game raped or not.

SJWs play strategically to gain ground. They'll back down only if they are opposed on the principles of their pseudo-faith.

Any con organizer who answers to their demands is digging his own grave. It's only a matter of time before he's pushed in it.

Resist the whiny bitches (and metaphorically kick them in the 'nads) or become their bitch, that's the choice that's offered us, fellow gamers.

I will be no bitches' bitch.

Agreed in all. Couldn't have said it better myself. Also fuck their X-Cards or other means of control, I don't need a fucking Con to play, good luck trying to force that on my table!

Quote from: Gagarth;1091585Here is a good target for your x-card.

I agree, I hate dreads. :eek:

Quote from: Trond;1091611Yes. Was there something you found especially untrustworthy about it?

Either way all I see is a couple of players who complain that the "edgy" RPG that they signed up for was a bit too edgy. Whether there was rape or not doesn't matter that much, see my comment above.

I listed that 2 players in the game and the organizer who knew the GM for a decade all disagreed with the account in the interview. I also find that the GM was being evasive in the way they answered questions even though they did admit to have not told the players their supposed reason for being naked with sore bums. I am struggling to see the cause to support the GM here.

I have never been to any Cons in my 46 years (I started playing rpgs when I was 12 in 1984, what a glorious year that was), and I wouldn't start now either, but the X-card thing will probably be pushed hard by organizers in the future. And then the rpg business will relive the Satanic panic of the 80s but now the threat of censorship will come from the inside, spearheaded by the most delicate of the new gaming flowers. These people are already starting to claim my old hobby, bit by bit. I apologize to anyone who might not be of viking blood, a phallic tower of masculinity and straight as an arrow like me on this board (jk), but I feel it all began a few years back with a small minority of gamers, groups of female and hbtq rpg-players who claimed that they were shunned by us regular male gamers back in the 80s, and that they now are reclaiming the games. When I was 12, rpgs were consired to be a nerdy hobby (unlike riding horses or collecting Limahl and Alphaville posters). No girls WANTED to play with us and we never spoke about our gaming sessions in school, not out loud so that the pretty girls could hear us anyway.

I don't know how things were and are in the US and other countries, but that's just my very personal experience.

actually, it has everything to do with this particular GM. The con I'm talking about is bringing in X-cards specifically in response to his actions.

Quote from: spon;1091650actually, it has everything to do with this particular GM. The con I'm talking about is bringing in X-cards specifically in response to his actions.

Good, it is bound to create demand for cons without such restrictions and then those who need safe spaces can play at safe space cons and those who love some edge in their games can play at EdgyCon.com.

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1091647I listed that 2 players in the game and the organizer who knew the GM for a decade all disagreed with the account in the interview. I also find that the GM was being evasive in the way they answered questions even though they did admit to have not told the players their supposed reason for being naked with sore bums. I am struggling to see the cause to support the GM here.

Why support the GM? Maybe because he didn't actually hurt anyone? The degree to which I support him depends a bit on exactly how much info the gamers had beforehand. For instance, he mentioned in the interview that he's inspired by movies like the Hostel. Was there any hint of this or that he was aiming for this sort of "shocker" genre? If you have seen the Hostel then you have seen worse shit than what he described.

My guess is that he didn't communicate it clearly, so if I were in charge I would give him a warning for this. But blocking him from future events, and doxing him (which is exactly what is going on right now, pretty openly too on Twitter) etc? There were no kids at the table. The reactions are ridiculous and over-the-top. It's just a game.

I wouldn't even have been upset if my PC woke up chained in some basement with ass pains. I would just look for the gimp box. The rape segment in Pulp Fiction where Bruce Willis character returns to save Ving Rhames character is the best in the entire movie in my opinion. How times have changed. Rape and revenge is also a central theme in classic movies like Deathwish and I Spit on Your Grave.

Quote from: Trond;1091654Why support the GM? Maybe because he didn't actually hurt anyone? The degree to which I support him depends a bit on exactly how much info the gamers had beforehand. For instance, he mentioned in the interview that he's inspired by movies like the Hostel. Was there any hint of this or that he was aiming for this sort of "shocker" genre? If you have seen the Hostel then you have seen worse shit than what he described.

My guess is that he didn't communicate it clearly, so if I were in charge I would give him a warning for this. But blocking him from future events, and doxing him (which is exactly what is going on right now, pretty openly too on Twitter) etc? There were no kids at the table. The reactions are ridiculous and over-the-top. It's just a game.

I cannot help you in the darkness and ignorance you live in. I hope you recover.