Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090193"Gang rape fictional teenagers"

I don't think that matters one bit.  Arguably, rape in general should just be off the table.  Toss kids in, you've gone to the "oh, HELL no" side of the spectrum.  There's no situation where raping kids is acceptable.

That said, if he got removed and perma-banned from the con, I think that's a suitable punishment.  He can't learn from his mistake and reform his behavior otherwise.

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1090244I don't think that matters one bit.  Arguably, rape in general should just be off the table.  Toss kids in, you've gone to the "oh, HELL no" side of the spectrum.  There's no situation where raping kids is acceptable.

That said, if he got removed and perma-banned from the con, I think that's a suitable punishment.  He can't learn from his mistake and reform his behavior otherwise.

Not arguing for rape at the table, just making the distinction because it does make a difference if it was fictional or not, the second type lands you in jail. Agreed that raping kids isn't acceptable.

Exactly, kick him out, perma-ban his ass and that's enough.

The discussion should be about the woke pearl clutchers trying to ruin his life.

I would say he kind of ruined his own life with a shocking lack of posting an rpg scenario with sexual assault then instead of apologizing making a statement about liking how it bothers people. Truly a lack of any social survival skills imo. Mistake maybe but it is one hell of a mistake that could have easily been avoided if the dumbass DM put actualyl gave a shit about what he was doing and not trying to impress other gamers with the shock value of his scenario. Shit like this that people who truly should know better making easily avoidable mistakes. While giving SJWs an excuse to cause the hobby more harm.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090251it does make a difference if it was fictional or not

I don't think it does.  But that's totally OK, we don't have to agree on that and I'm not going to clutch pearls and try to ruin your life.  

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090251The discussion should be about the woke pearl clutchers trying to ruin his life.

That's just a... shithole we've been down before.  They don't believe in redemption; once a person has made a mistake like this, that person is doomed for life.

I'm not an SJW by any means yet it is also a self-inflicted mistake that might ruin his own life. Anyone with a functioning brain cell could have seen that scenario should have never left the mind of the DM. Your just asking to get banned from the rpg community. As I said yes it is a mistake yet man one hell of stupid mistake to do and then essentially do the equivalent of a smile and go " i like trolling people so I pull this kind of stupid shit for giggles and kicks".

Quote from: sureshot;1090263I'm not an SJW by any means yet it is also a self-inflicted mistake that might ruin his own life. Anyone with a functioning brain cell could have seen that scenario should have never left the mind of the DM. Your just asking to get banned from the rpg community. As I said yes it is a mistake yet man one hell of stupid mistake to do and then essentially do the equivalent of a smile and go " i like trolling people so I pull this kind of stupid shit for giggles and kicks".

That's kind of my take on it.

In general, I don't believe this was all that big of a deal and I vehemently disagree that anyone was actually harmed (and if someone thinks they were, they need to consult a therapist and get on meds) - at the same time, I think the inclusion of the "offending" subject matter is just neck-bearded edgelord behavior, and completely, utterly ridiculously myopic given the current state of wokeness.  To introduce that at a convention with randos at your table?  You're just a fucking moron.

It would be fantastic if everyone acted like adults, and, if they didn't like the subject matter, excuse themselves from the table, and let those that were down with it enjoy themselves, but that's not the world we live in anymore, so, my judgement of "This GM is a fucking moron" stands.

I don't understand the part about remaining at the table until the end if being offended by the scenario. Or sitting through a discussion, movie etc if one is offended. If something bothers me I get up and leave. Fuck politeness and your hurt feelings. Sorry you get no sympathy from myself once one starts talking casual about any form of sexual assault. If the person gets offended by my departure they can go and eat rocks. If for example I was at the table I would have left as soon as any form of sexual abuse came up during the game. Not sit through the entire Edgy Mcbearded rape fantasy scenario. Hell I might even reported him to the con organizers because that kind of shit does not belong in anyway shape or form at any rpg convention. The SJWs are using any excuse to brand the hobby as toxic and unwelcoming. No need to provide them more free ammunition to do so

Quote from: sureshot;1090274I don't understand the part about remaining at the table until the end if being offended by the scenario. Or sitting through a discussion, movie etc if one is offended. If something bothers me I get up and leave. Fuck politeness and your hurt feelings. Sorry you get no sympathy from myself once one starts talking casual about any form of sexual assault. If the person gets offended by my departure they can go and eat rocks. If for example I was at the table I would have left as soon as any form of sexual abuse came up during the game. Not sit through the entire Edgy Mcbearded rape fantasy scenario. Hell I might even reported him to the con organizers because that kind of shit does not belong in anyway shape or form at any rpg convention. The SJWs are using any excuse to brand the hobby as toxic and unwelcoming. No need to provide them more free ammunition to do so

The thing is (And I bet I'm right) the moron wasn't offended but titillated by the "Edgy Mcbearded rape fantasy scenario". Then got a guilty conscience for enjoying it and blamed the GM for the sin, then Mr Edgy Mcbeard gets kicked out, banned and the woke morons go after him to ruin his life.

And it's that last part I have a problem with.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090276The thing is (And I bet I'm right) the moron wasn't offended but titillated by the "Edgy Mcbearded rape fantasy scenario". Then got a guilty conscience for enjoying it and blamed the GM for the sin, then Mr Edgy Mcbeard gets kicked out, banned and the woke morons go after him to ruin his life.

And it's that last part I have a problem with.

Possibly. Unfortunately without any kind of video proof or another player at the same table coming forward to defend the exiled DM. We have a DM/Player said scenario and given how currently sexual assault is justifiably frowned upon in our culture. Well he is screwed. That and his "I'm trying to push your buttons for lols and giggles" comment did not help his case. If one is going to try such a risky form of content an rpg convention one needs to have some kind of proof they were at first willing participants at the table. If not well he is shit out of luck. Even then slapping an 18+ rating does not imo suddenly make the topic of sexual assault an a gaming table acceptable. Which is why I would never ever un a game with such a rating. Even outside of cons at my gaming table and many other posters here he would be banned from their homes. Now the offending DM has to accept the responsibility for his own stupid actions.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090251The discussion should be about the woke pearl clutchers trying to ruin his life.

Do we have any examples of that other than Jim's videos? I don't doubt that it might be happening, but you seem very sure it is happening and I'm interested to know what you're seeing.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1090283Do we have any examples of that other than Jim's videos? I don't doubt that it might be happening, but you seem very sure it is happening and I'm interested to know what you're seeing.

You really think there's any chance it's not happening? Can you recognize patterns? And if it's not happening right now just give them a couple days more.

If you're going to have rape in your public convention game, especially rape of children, you're not edgy you're an asshat


Fuck that guy.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090284You really think there's any chance it's not happening? Can you recognize patterns? And if it's not happening right now just give them a couple days more.

So you're saying that all of this is because you predict bad behavior rather than because it's actually happening?

Someone else posted a link in another thread about this, and the GM isn't even named. I sounded like kicking the GM out was the end of it.

Quote from: Lurtch;1090286If you're going to have rape in your public convention game, especially rape of children, you're not edgy you're an asshat


Fuck that guy.

Agreed. He can eat shit. This is the wrong hill for the anti-SJW brigade to die on.

First they came for Alex Jones, and I said nothing because I don't watch his content.

First they came for the asshats, and I said nothing because I don't enjoy their asshatery.

And that's all I have to say about this to those willing to let the woke pearlclutchers destroy that particular asshat's life.