Quote from: rgalex;1087128Can I add to that by pointing out that Motorskills was just banned for 2 weeks (pending admin review.) at TBP for posting about that outcome.  Supporting Comicsgate and both-sideism don't you know.

Banned for 2 weeks for pointing out reality!

Quote from: RPGPundit;1087029How does one do that?!

BGG. You can glance at the "users owning" and/or "comments" list, which of course is not any representation of total owners of a game, and see where they are listed as being from.

Quote from: Larsdangly;1086891The only reason this site isn't a complete alt-right echo chamber is that very rarely someone calls out the frequent posters on their horse shit and they are allowed to stay.

It's remarkable how little criticism and mockery is required to make an ideologue pull their fucking head in and shut the fuck up.

About ten years ago on rpg.net a bunch of what were not then, but would now be called SJWs, posted in Trouble Tickets a petition asking that rpg.net be made an "emotionally safe environment", with this and that topic banned, or saying this or that about certain topics banned, and so on. None of the things they were speaking about were rpg-related, it was all Tangency shit.

In other words, they were on a roleplaying games site demanding the right to an "emotionally safe environment" to discuss things other than roleplaying games. Which would be like my going onto a politics forum and demanding they stop people talking about D&D5e. Apart from lots of needless irrelevant drivel, the main problem with this is that the rules made to keep the off-topic discussion from being too horribly toxic quite naturally seep into the main discussion forums. And this is of course the aim of any ideologue, to make everything political.

Of course it all starts in the US. American culture spreads across the world like an incontinent toddler's urine spreads across a floor. We only hope it was a wooden floor, so we can at least mop it up. You never get the smell out of carpet.

The Emotionally Safe Environment Petitition was was roundly-mocked at the time, and for a year or two after. Among the people asking for protection from mockery were furries, to which Cessna said, "whenever I hear this, I picture a guy standing there in a squirrel suit saying, "don't laugh at me."" I believe Cessna has Woken from his old, sensible self, stopped gaming and now just guards the right of people to discuss politics on an rpg forum.

We roundly mock the Social Justice Warriors and Conservative Justice Warriors both. Both are spineless cowards who cannot handle actual debate and any serious challenge to their deranged views, and when confronted with it, will claim bias. We do have bias, we are here to game and discuss gaming; our bias is away from ideology and towards common sense. Now stop incontinently spraying your political urine everywhere, shut the fuck and roll the dice.

Behave yourself, or I shall mock you once more. Fucking BNG.

Quote from: Opaopajr;1087137Wait, was there commentary from Motorskills or just shoot the messenger?

It was a two-week shoot the messenger ban with the mod further claiming that sharing this information was not done in good faith because it made a Comicsgater look good.

Yeah. They've set their purity purge cycle to Purée. The last remaining mod will, after banning everyone else, permaban themselves for the wrongthink of wishing they still had someone to talk to.

Quote from: Chris24601;1087176It was a two-week shoot the messenger ban with the mod further claiming that sharing this information was not done in good faith because it made a Comicsgater look good.

Yeah. They've set their purity purge cycle to Purée. The last remaining mod will, after banning everyone else, permaban themselves for the wrongthink of wishing they still had someone to talk to.

I don't know if "Purée" is a high enough setting to describe what's going on. In their 14 day banning of Motorskills they've implied he's pro-KKK, pro-Confederacy and pro-Comicsgate/Gamergate. Qouting the mod:

You necro'd this thread to

a) post a Comicsgater's content

b) insult another poster

I don't believe this is posted in good-faith - the way you talk about his subscriber count, your apparently agreeing with him, and again, necroing the thread to insult another poster does not make me think this is any different to your previous both-sides comments in favour of groups like the Confederacy and the KKK.

As you well know, support of Gamergate and related hate-movements like Comicsgate is not permitted here. Two week ban pending admin review.
Send your appeal, if any, to the admins (admin.rpgnet@gmail.com) as per all previous times you've been banned.


All that for doing little more than interrupting their Two Minutes of Hate thread on Comicsgate. (Which I know nothing about, and frankly don't have the time/will to learn about.) Motorskills doesn't come across as praising Hambly, but any tapping on the brakes by pointing out reality (as Pundit put it) gets you 2-week ban and slimed as a white supremacist. WTF?

When you catch a ban at TBP you can't see why you got the ban, nor the instructions on how to appeal. I guess they assume you have them memorized or printed out at your desk. If I was Motorskills I'd definitely try to appeal. Not to be able to post in the thread again, but to get the mod to wipe that smear off the Trouble Tickets board about being pro-KKK/Confederacy.

My politics don't jive with Motorskills, but it's hard for me to imagine he's a neo-Confederate of some kind. The only thing by Motorskills posted on TBP that comes even close is that he commented he didn't like the destruction of any statues by anybody. He didn't call for the Confederate statues to remain as they are in places of honor, but to either cover them up or remove them to a museum. Not pure enough, and that was from two years ago. Say something that sticks in a moderator's craw, and they'll look for anything in your history to blow up into a crime against society.

If the TBP mods had to meet in person with each other I'm afraid they'd beat on each other to the point of killing someone in one of their criticism/struggle sessions that would inevitably occur. If you want to see how bad echo chambers can go check out the Japanese film United Red Army. (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/united_red_army)

Quote from: wmarshal;1087188I don't know if "Purée" is a high enough setting to describe what's going on. In their 14 day banning of Motorskills they've implied he's pro-KKK, pro-Confederacy and pro-Comicsgate/Gamergate.

Holy shit!

QuoteMy politics don't jive with Motorskills, but it's hard for me to imagine he's a neo-Confederate of some kind. The only thing by Motorskills posted on TBP that comes even close is that he commented he didn't like the destruction of any statues by anybody. He didn't call for the Confederate statues to remain as they are in places of honor, but to either cover them up or remove them to a museum. Not pure enough, and that was from two years ago. Say something that sticks in a moderator's craw, and they'll look for anything in your history to blow up into a crime against society.

Oh, yeah. That'll do it.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1087175It's remarkable how little criticism and mockery is required to make an ideologue pull their fucking head in and shut the fuck up. [...]

We roundly mock the Social Justice Warriors and Conservative Justice Warriors both. Both are spineless cowards who cannot handle actual debate and any serious challenge to their deranged views, and when confronted with it, will claim bias. We do have bias, we are here to game and discuss gaming; our bias is away from ideology and towards common sense. Now stop incontinently spraying your political urine everywhere, shut the fuck and roll the dice.

Behave yourself, or I shall mock you once more. Fucking BNG.

Could use some tightening up for a Les Miserables song, but overall a most worthy sentiment.

First Gaming Commandment: Thou shall not thine be a Bitter Non-Gamer!

If a lefty-liberal like Motorskills is a KKK-white supremacist in the eyes of RPGnet, I wonder how they regard the more red-blooded posters here? "Worse than Hitler" presumably to start with.

Quote from: S'mon;1087223If a lefty-liberal like Motorskills is a KKK-white supremacist in the eyes of RPGnet, I wonder how they regard the more red-blooded posters here? "Worse than Hitler" presumably to start with.

Well, you gotta remember, we're an alt-right forum.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1087175Of course it all starts in the US. American culture spreads across the world like an incontinent toddler's urine spreads across a floor. We only hope it was a wooden floor, so we can at least mop it up. You never get the smell out of carpet.

Your American citizenship request got denied again, didn't it?

Quote from: jeff37923;1087244Your American citizenship request got denied again, didn't it?

You have to remember, we mostly only get the bad bits of your culture. Copyright, but no Fair Use. SJWs, but no Tennessee Barbeque.

Quote from: S'mon;1087248You have to remember, we mostly only get the bad bits of your culture. Copyright, but no Fair Use. SJWs, but no Tennessee Barbeque.

Greetings!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!:D OMG, my friend. What a laugh to start the morning with! Hilarious!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: S'mon;1087248You have to remember, we mostly only get the bad bits of your culture. Copyright, but no Fair Use. SJWs, but no Tennessee Barbeque.

You can have that charlatan Memphis "barbeque"; Texas is the only way to roll.

Quote from: S'mon;1087248You have to remember, we mostly only get the bad bits of your culture. Copyright, but no Fair Use. SJWs, but no Tennessee Barbeque.

I know, but I've been teasing Kyle Aaron about this for years.....  

(And honestly, from travelling around the globe, I am a bit embarrassed that America's main contribution to world culture is Fast Food.)

Quote from: Brad;1087251You can have that charlatan Memphis "barbeque"; Texas is the only way to roll.

I dunno about Memphis; I'm delightfully familiar with middle Tennessee BBQ, which seems similar to east Tennessee (and to Alabama north of the river) as far as I can recall.