Quote from: SHARK;1086467Greetings!

Whoa, Antiquation! Hey, Ratman is joking with you. Perhaps I missed it, help me out.

Ser SHARK,

Ha! Yes I agree, I think I understood the humor there.

 

Quote from: SHARK;1086467Who has been verbally leaping on you to be quiet? I don't believe that it is controversial in any way to state that our once-wonderful states of Oregon and Washington are full of SJW freaks. I have fiends that live there, as well as members here that have made it very clear that Oregon and Washington have suffered terribly through social and political changes over the last 10 years or more.

I have had multiple people metaphorically jump down my throat over divergent opinions, up to and including vice presidents of my company and even my own manager, even when I was carefully wording and curating my speech so as not to cause unrest. Additionally, family members born and raised here, who cannot even listen to views opposing their own let alone accept their validity or consider them intellectually. It's more sad to me than anything. As far as states suffering, I believe incoming Californians coming in have been a large part of the problem for Washington, culturally at least. Portland seems to be a shithole of idiots to me but I've only visited, never lived there so I don't feel qualified to speak on its culture.

Quote from: SHARK;1086467I don't think anyone reasonable would disagree with such a position. I've even read news articles discussing the growing homeless problem in both such places, and lamentations that Portland, etc. have become SJW shitholes.

Washington has a HUGE homeless problem. Although not nearly as bad as Cali, at least.

Quote from: SHARK;1086467I have been to both states, and they are beautiful, special treasures of our country. I have friends that live there as well. I think it is absolutely a sick, and tragic disaster which has overtaken both of those states. Hard to believe that they are nuttier than California, though I know the same terrible BS is swallowing up California, too. All three of these states are deeply fucked and horrible. Some elements of California are able to resist a bit more, simply because of land size and population. It's a mere academic formality though. All three states are fucked and swallowed by SJW's.

They unfortunately are nuttier than Californians, in their own way. It's a shame. They tend to be fairly delusional and insular IMO, at least West of the pass. East isn't a WHOLE lot better but it's generally better, particularly out in the boonies like the Colville area.

Quote from: SHARK;1086467I hope the good folks still holding out manage to resist, fight back, or get the fuck out to somewhere more safe, sane, and reasonable.

We're doing our best. We're not winning any awards or making waves, but we do exist.

Edit: As soon as we finish gathering the nest egg, the fiancee and I will most likely be moving out to Texas to be with her family and make our money and investments last longer (not to mention property purchases). Plus even in Houston traffic isn't as shit as it is here!

Quote from: Dr. Benton Quest;1085743I agree.  There's a lot of good discussion over there, but there's also a lot of politics that creeps into some threads.  I usually just tend to ignore those threads and stick with the gaming-only messages, but sometimes it's difficult.

As I get older, I see the wisdom in the old "don't talk politics or religion" stance.  It gets really old when someone starts talking politics and all of a sudden the forums polarize.

This is precisely why we don't allow real-world politics or religion in my chatroom, #randomworlds (see link in my sig).

Quote from: SHARK;1086467Perhaps I missed it, help me out. Who has been verbally leaping on you to be quiet?

I read that to be Seattle, not therpgsite, but Antiquation! can correct me if I'm wrong.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1086468Washington has a HUGE homeless problem. Although not nearly as bad as Cali, at least.

That it does. I ride the bus into Seattle because I don't like driving there, and I get to see a lot of it first hand when I venture into the city for X-Wing events. They just leave the homeless to rot on the streets. It's goddamn shameful, and it's getting worse every year.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1086473That it does. I ride the bus into Seattle because I don't like driving there, and I get to see a lot of it first hand when I venture into the city for X-Wing events. They just leave the homeless to rot on the streets. It's goddamn shameful, and it's getting worse every year.

Indeed. It's really, really bad. My brother knows better than I do, he works down there and complains about it almost every time I see him. To make matters worse, we're doing next to nothing to alleviate it.

If I ever actually have to go into Seattle I take the bus now too. Parking prices and traffic are not worth the trouble. Plus I would greatly appreciate not having someone take a literal shit on the hood of my car again.

Quote from: Omega;1086410Well if it is any consolation. Someone in India bought Lion & Dragon. :cool:

Huh?

Quote from: Antiquation!;1086468I have had multiple people metaphorically jump down my throat over divergent opinions, up to and including vice presidents of my company and even my own manager, even when I was carefully wording and curating my speech so as not to cause unrest. Additionally, family members born and raised here, who cannot even listen to views opposing their own let alone accept their validity or consider them intellectually. It's more sad to me than anything. As far as states suffering, I believe incoming Californians coming in have been a large part of the problem for Washington, culturally at least. Portland seems to be a shithole of idiots to me but I've only visited, never lived there so I don't feel qualified to speak on its culture.

1 in 5 Oregon residents came from California. They aren't all going to Curry County, that's for sure. The lopsided population of the Portland metro area is such that they easily dominate the legislature. Instead of pushing changes just for Portland, they force it down over the entire state. That ensures that people who are tired of it cannot just move to a nearby, smaller city within Oregon. You might have seen how numbers are exploding in Vancouver (WA). Those are Oregon residents that have had enough.

California is definitely exporting people, but we're still at maximum dumb. You'd think exporting nutbags to WA and OR would have a net positive effect, but I don't see it.

BTW, if you hate where you live, or where you work, decide if you're immortal or not. If your are not immortal, consider taking swift action and not suffering more years somewhere you don't want to be. The economy is hot, and that's when you move to a new job in a new locale. Recessions aren't a good time for relocation.

Quote from: Lynn;10864841 in 5 Oregon residents came from California. They aren't all going to Curry County, that's for sure. The lopsided population of the Portland metro area is such that they easily dominate the legislature. Instead of pushing changes just for Portland, they force it down over the entire state. That ensures that people who are tired of it cannot just move to a nearby, smaller city within Oregon. You might have seen how numbers are exploding in Vancouver (WA). Those are Oregon residents that have had enough.

Holy crap, I had never heard about this before. That's sad, but sort of interesting nonetheless. I had no plans of migrating to Oregon, but this information ensures I never will. That also explains a lot about Vancouver.

Seattle doesn't bully WA quite to that extent AFAIK, but certainly its immediate neighboring cities feel the ever-looming presence of its legislation, ordinances and infrastructure decisions mostly in a very negative way. Then there's the culture itself, and the so-called "Seattle Chill" as they call it which I've found to be more accurate than not.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1086500BTW, if you hate where you live, or where you work, decide if you're immortal or not. If your are not immortal, consider taking swift action and not suffering more years somewhere you don't want to be. The economy is hot, and that's when you move to a new job in a new locale. Recessions aren't a good time for relocation.

This is an EXCELLENT point, and something I hope people consider. I have moved across the country several times for this exact reason, plus having fresh opportunities on the other side. As soon as the iron is hot and life calms down for me, plus I'm financially well-padded again, I plan on doing it again.

What boggles my mind is people who move TO California. Not because of family or friends, but because they actually want to live there. Unless you're going to be working with film studios or working some prestigious job in Silicon Valley, I just don't understand it at all yet I've known 8 or 9 people who did exactly that.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1086530Holy crap, I had never heard about this before. That's sad, but sort of interesting nonetheless. I had no plans of migrating to Oregon, but this information ensures I never will. That also explains a lot about Vancouver.

Seattle doesn't bully WA quite to that extent AFAIK, but certainly its immediate neighboring cities feel the ever-looming presence of its legislation, ordinances and infrastructure decisions mostly in a very negative way. Then there's the culture itself, and the so-called "Seattle Chill" as they call it which I've found to be more accurate than not.

I think the Seattle region will step it up (I don't think the push to get rid of plastic straws is coming from Cowlitz...), but since the WA economy is so much stronger than the OR economy, and  bounces back more quickly from downturns, Seattle doesn't have to grub up all the state funds to survive. The Seattle "economy" doesn't have the fragility of the Portland economy.

Greetings!

Idaho is very nice. Lots of conservative people here, and liberals are a definite minority. Guns are popular here, and the government and law enforcement supports law-abiding citizens being armed to the teeth, with whatever guns they want.

Traffic is light, jobs are plentiful, and land is everywhere, and reasonable in price.

Idaho enjoys four distinct seasons, and there is beautiful wilderness and forest everywhere. The state has many lakes and rivers, with a wide variety of water sports and activities being very popular, from swimming, boating, and rafting, to just hanging out or walking by the shoreline. People in Idaho love being outdoors, so there is always lots of fishing, camping, and hunting going on.

I especially enjoy the culture here. People here are good Americans, open, very friendly, law-abiding, conservative, and patriotic. There are large areas of open farm country and wilderness. The place isn't so swallowed up with consumerism, with freeways, glitzy hotels and shopping centers, business parks and urban ghettoes everywhere. I can drive for 45 minutes from where I live and see more cows and horses than people.

During the spring and summer, there is a decent variety of music concerts available, and at least one gaming convention that is also very popular.

I highly recommend living in the great state of Idaho.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK;1086543Greetings!

Idaho is very nice. Lots of conservative people here, and liberals are a definite minority. Guns are popular here, and the government and law enforcement supports law-abiding citizens being armed to the teeth, with whatever guns they want.

Traffic is light, jobs are plentiful, and land is everywhere, and reasonable in price.

Idaho enjoys four distinct seasons, and there is beautiful wilderness and forest everywhere. The state has many lakes and rivers, with a wide variety of water sports and activities being very popular, from swimming, boating, and rafting, to just hanging out or walking by the shoreline. People in Idaho love being outdoors, so there is always lots of fishing, camping, and hunting going on.

I especially enjoy the culture here. People here are good Americans, open, very friendly, law-abiding, conservative, and patriotic. There are large areas of open farm country and wilderness. The place isn't so swallowed up with consumerism, with freeways, glitzy hotels and shopping centers, business parks and urban ghettoes everywhere. I can drive for 45 minutes from where I live and see more cows and horses than people.

During the spring and summer, there is a decent variety of music concerts available, and at least one gaming convention that is also very popular.

I highly recommend living in the great state of Idaho.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quiet you. If too many people come here, they'll just ruin it (like they ruined wherever they are fleeing)!

Can I get my own... Private Idaho?

SHARK! NO! Don't encourage them! We are full! FULL! No more room in Idaho! Move along! We are all hillbillies with guns! Nope, sorry, no room in the barn!

Quote from: MWMattei;1086546Quiet you. If too many people come here, they'll just ruin it (like the ruined wherever they are fleeing)!

Greetings!

LOL! Yeah, so true, huh?

We definitely don't want that. Grrrr!:mad: We certainly don't want hordes of new people coming here and turning it into another urban mess like they just came from. I can never understand why all these morons allegedly flee from such terrible places, then shortly upon arrival, proceed to seek to change the new home into everything that they just *left*. Wierd.

Welcome, by the way, to the forums here!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK