Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1085774It boggles my mind that both parties have come out with a joint statement asking for everyone to cool their jets, and we're seriously considering that it's going to further incense unrelated and uninvolved parties.  Because that might (probably?) actually happen.  I just... I got nothing.

That is the simple fact of how insane these SJWs are. Nothing you do will appease them. Nothing. Even if Webb, FGG and SJG all went out of business right now and admitted total guilt they'd still demand more.

Quote from: kythri;1085866And trees, you dendrophobe.

And pink haired anime holograms if userpic checks out!

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1085774It boggles my mind that both parties have come out with a joint statement asking for everyone to cool their jets, and we're seriously considering that it's going to further incense unrelated and uninvolved parties.  Because that might (probably?) actually happen.  I just... I got nothing.

Here's the thing though, if they keep pushing it despite BJ Hesnley and FGG having released the statement that might be casus belli for Ty Beard.  And then paperwork starts flying out.  Honestly it's a perfect trap.  How long can Stacy D., Chris Helton, and Jessica Price keep their mouths shut?  How long can they put up with it?

Quote from: Lurtch;1085856Just lying and implying. But Motorskills is an idiot.

Getting drunk at a convention doesn't not a habitual drunk make.

Eh, drunk enough to put his arm around someone that didn't want it, (by Webb's own admission), parse that however you want. I know lots of people that like plenty of alcohol at conventions. A minority of them make bad decisions as a result. Webb appears to be in that category, YMMV.

I'm fine with the joint statement from Hensley and Webb, though I will see of Webb follows Hensley's previous request (?) / suggestion (?) to avoid cons for a while. The donation to charity is a good action as well. We'll see.

Quote from: Motorskills;1085890I'm fine with the joint statement from Hensley and Webb, though I will see of Webb follows Hensley's previous request (?) / suggestion (?) to avoid cons for a while. The donation to charity is a good action as well. We'll see.

I don't recall Hensley ever making this request. I know that 3rd parties have made demanded Bill be banned by cons, but not by Hensley herself. Do you have a link to such a request made by Hensley?

Her original statement on the Paizo forums is disturbing to read. It does not seem to match Bill's statement. However, it's perfectly possible for Hensley's experience to be different from Bill's recollection of the event, but they decided 2 years ago to try to put this behind them.

I don't think Stacy, Chris and Jessica, who keep on bringing this back up, are doing so in good faith, but rather to gain status and financial backing for their various projects/brands.  Now that they've carried their own vendetta (Not Hensley's since she asked for this to be over with) against FGG to the point of attacking the contracts FGG has with other parties it looks like they're getting sued. When Bill withdrew as a GoH from Gary Con all three should have declared victory and moved on if they were smart/sincere. But they're not so here we are.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1085758Oh lord.

https://transfelinism.wordpress.com/2019/05/02/sincerely-with-love-steve-jackson-doesnt-care-about-victims-of-sexual-harassment/

Holy shit. That's crazy. Here I was starting to think the world was getting back to normal and then this. Is she serious?

Quote from: shoplifter;1085771https://froggodgames.com/frogs/joint-statement-of-bj-hensley-and-frog-god-games/?fbclid=IwAR2xl73p4vKPnRjGDZpmlw-bmbqNzCHdDq74ZxRx2V3_QLYwROztbDb1tm0




This will still not satisfy the mob.

Well it makes me happy.

Quote from: wmarshal;1085898I don't recall Hensley ever making this request..

It's a reply to Stacy's FB post.

Quote from: Jason Coplen;1085903Holy shit. That's crazy. Here I was starting to think the world was getting back to normal and then this. Is she serious?

No, go look at other posts, that's not the work of a sane person.

Well, OK, she might be serious, but not sensible.

Quote from: jhkim;1085847At this point, I'd prefer to respect Hensley and Webb's request in this matter. I've been posting factual references just to clarify what has been said, but I think now the attempt to beat drums is just a way to fan more outrage.

Quote from: Motorskills;1085890I'm fine with the joint statement from Hensley and Webb, though I will see of Webb follows Hensley's previous request (?) / suggestion (?) to avoid cons for a while. The donation to charity is a good action as well. We'll see.

"If you can't show proof, your claims go *poof*."

You know, for some reason I'm reminded of the fable The Emperor's New Clothes, though I can't imagine why.

The joint statement is a sensible move, and all reasonable people will accept the position both parties want to take and let life move on.

So it'll be interesting to see how the Purple Brained Bastards over at RPGKremlin react, and if Helton, Delofarno and Price maintain their vendetta. The joint statement makes no mention of the Gang of Three being immune to litigation. If they have a brain cell between them, they'll shut the fuck up. Let's see if they take the hint.

Quote from: BrokenCounsel;1085958The joint statement is a sensible move, and all reasonable people will accept the position both parties want to take and let life move on.

So it'll be interesting to see how the Purple Brained Bastards over at RPGKremlin react, and if Helton, Delofarno and Price maintain their vendetta. The joint statement makes no mention of the Gang of Three being immune to litigation. If they have a brain cell between them, they'll shut the fuck up. Let's see if they take the hint.

I honestly don't think that Gang of Three is unintelligent, but unwise and/or just crazy. Maybe socially retarded?

I honestly don't think that Gang of Three is unintelligent, but unwise and/or just crazy. Maybe socially retarded?

My bad: "...iota of common sense between them..."

You're right; they're not stupid, but they are on a crusade, and fanaticism frequently means intelligence takes a back seat.

Quote from: Motorskills;1085890Eh, drunk enough to put his arm around someone that didn't want it, (by Webb's own admission), parse that however you want. I know lots of people that like plenty of alcohol at conventions. A minority of them make bad decisions as a result. Webb appears to be in that category, YMMV.

I'm fine with the joint statement from Hensley and Webb, though I will see of Webb follows Hensley's previous request (?) / suggestion (?) to avoid cons for a while. The donation to charity is a good action as well. We'll see.

I think its more a problem of getting drunk at a con now... We now live in a time where there are people either primed for or actively looking for chances to accuse someone of harassment over just about anything. Pre-2010 or so Webbs antics would have been most likely laughed off by the girl. Or her just getting annoyed. Which may be what actually happened? Getting drunk at a con is no longer a safe thing to do. (Was not exactly safe before either.) Sooner, or later, probably sooner, you are going to step on a landmine.