Quote from: Motorskills;1085766We've had people on this forum confirm that Webb is (was) a habitual drunk at conventions and was "high-strung". His decision-making abilities seem flawed at best*. And AFAIK, Webb isn't denying that he was drunk, that put his arms around a colleague and called her 'sweetie', which is unprofessional at best (especially to a subordinate / contractor).

*Edit: which is why using some low level of force to remove him from the situation could be justified, for the safety of others. IANAL / IANALEO.

Got some links to prove your assertion?

Should be easy since the source is "people on this forum".

Quote from: MotorskillsWe've had people on this forum confirm that Webb is (was) a habitual drunk at conventions and was "high-strung". His decision-making abilities seem flawed at best*. And AFAIK, Webb isn't denying that he was drunk, that put his arms around a colleague and called her 'sweetie', which is unprofessional at best (especially to a subordinate / contractor).

*Edit: which is why using some low level of force to remove him from the situation could be justified, for the safety of others. IANAL / IANALEO.

Quote from: jeff37923;1085814Got some links to prove your assertion?

Should be easy since the source is "people on this forum".

I suspect Motorskills is referring to Post #396:

Quote from: Brad;1084623I've played in Bill Webb's convention games what, three or four times? Seen him at at least six conventions total. That dude is 1) super friendly, 2) extremely high strung, 3) and drinks heavily. His wife and kids are usually with him, which makes this whole thing seem suspect...at 2AM when someone has been drinking throughout the entire day still seems 100% lucid and "into gaming", while talking about his kids in front of a bunch of gamers with his wife present, it almost makes zero sense to me he'd be hitting on some young girl. Like when would he have the time? The dude is frantic as shit, running a ton of games and basically shilling his company. I'm inclined to agree with the whole offered the girl a cigarette and she freaked out. Even if it was a pass, so what? FGG telling Bill Webb to avoid talking to young autistic millennials who take everything out of context? Could totally see that happening. Bill Webb sexually assaulting someone? Nope.

And followup Post #407:

Quote from: EOTB;1084649My experiences with Bill are very similar and my conclusion's the same.

Quote from: jeff37923;1085811Holy fuck, it's the Royal Flush of Lunacy Poker.....

That made me LOL so hard I spit my coffee all over my screen. Thanks for that.

He might be referring to a post that I remember agreeing with.

But if so, let me be clear: every year I've gone to GC or NTRPG, many people attending the con are/were just as tipsy as Bill Webb at any given time.  And at no time would I be worried about any female in my family getting assaulted by Bill Webb.  Lots of people like to have a few drinks at the con.  (And next year's con room rates are generally contingent on the hotel making X amount of money at the bar/kitchen this year)

Quote from: jhkim;1085817I suspect Motorskills is referring to Post #396:


And followup Post #407:

Neither of your quotes support Motorskill's assertion that "Webb is (was) a habitual drunk at conventions and was "high-strung".

Got anything that proves Motorskill's assertion correct?

Quote from: jeff37923;1085814Got some links to prove your assertion?

Should be easy since the source is "people on this forum".

I've seen Bill very drunk and flirtatious at cons, so I can verify that. I'm not sure what exactly is meant by "high-strung". Other people at cons are drunk and flirtatious, and that in and of itself I wouldn't think warrants banishment from the gaming community. I was NOT a witness to the incident at Paizo Con, which is the only incident I'm aware of with any specificity. Anything else seems to be people saying essentially "they've heard things through the grapevine" which isn't worth anything more than bad gossip. The initial FGG statement after PaizoCon led me to believe that Bill had done something that would be worthy of sanction, but between BJ asking to let it be, and Bill's version making it seem more an incident of being more like Joe Biden failing to respect personal boundaries rather than outright stalking, I've become inclined to think the Paizo incident should've stayed between BJ and Bill without others demanding to come in to the situation and "rescue" BJ against her will. I think BJ has the right to set her boundaries, and to feel freaked out if she feels they've been crossed, but others hyping this incident to demand Bill's exile is terrible. Joe Biden is still allowed to be the likely nominee of the Democratic party, right?

Quote from: jeff37923;1085824Neither of your quotes support Motorskill's assertion that "Webb is (was) a habitual drunk at conventions and was "high-strung".

Got anything that proves Motorskill's assertion correct?

Please reread the quotes, jeff37923. I am adding bold in the statement below to highlight those parts.

Quote from: BradI've played in Bill Webb's convention games what, three or four times? Seen him at at least six conventions total. That dude is 1) super friendly, 2) extremely high strung, 3) and drinks heavily.

Quote from: jhkim;1085836Please reread the quotes, jeff37923. I am adding bold in the statement below to highlight those parts.

Yeah, and that has nothing to do with him being called a drunk, which is just a way of saying alcoholic or someone who can't handle their booze. Bill Webb is nothing of the sort.

At this point, I'd prefer to respect Hensley and Webb's request in this matter. I've been posting factual references just to clarify what has been said, but I think now the attempt to beat drums is just a way to fan more outrage.

Some posters seem to be pushing that Hensley was lying and/or overreacting, and that Webb didn't do anything significantly wrong. But it seems to me from their statement that they are agreed he did wrong, that he apologized, and that they would prefer to leave it at that. I'm fine to accept that.

The thread is so much more fun when its about throwing mud at the woke morons, anyway. Cause that's always fun.

Quote from: jeff37923;1085824Neither of your quotes support Motorskill's assertion that "Webb is (was) a habitual drunk at conventions and was "high-strung".

Got anything that proves Motorskill's assertion correct?

Just lying and implying. But Motorskills is an idiot.

Getting drunk at a convention doesn't not a habitual drunk make.

Quote from: Chocolate Sauce;1085733Stacy really needs to stop posting things online and consult an attorney. She's giving the plaintiffs more ammo to use against her

Hush you! STACY KEEP POSTING!!!!

The LOLZ must flow!!

Quote from: Dr. Benton Quest;1085743As I get older, I see the wisdom in the old "don't talk politics or religion" stance.

That's why I ban politics at my game table, regardless if I agree with the politics discussed.

Elfgame time is sacred!

Quote from: Antiquation!;1085758https://transfelinism.wordpress.com/2019/05/02/sincerely-with-love-steve-jackson-doesnt-care-about-victims-of-sexual-harassment/

OMG. That's awesome!!!

Who knew you could take Crazy to the Crazy power?

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1085765The more I read stuff like this... the more I am concerned for our society-at-large.

Society is fucked. Enjoy the fall, its like a waterslide!

BTW, forum member Opaopajr is our high priest of DEL-All. It's way more fun than Alt-Right or Ctrl-Left and involves asteroids.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1085777Nope. It's a sign of weakness. They'll press harder now.

Agreed. Never ever apologize to clowns.

Quote from: SavageSchemer;1085792These nutbags represent something like 1% of 1% of society in general. They just happen go be noisy as fuck on the internet. Probably because they have nothing better to do all day, any given day.

Except most media and academia have either been converted to their cause, or pander to them.

When you have the mainstream media, the schools and social media, your reach is far greater than just being "noisy as fuck".

Quote from: jeff37923;1085811Holy fuck, it's the Royal Flush of Lunacy Poker.....

Notice the "pansexual" part? AKA "I'll fuck anything." Anything includes kids and animals.

That's a far different statement than being bisexual or even being open to a variety of fetishes.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1085863Anything includes kids and animals.

And trees, you dendrophobe.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1085863Notice the "pansexual" part? AKA "I'll fuck anything." Anything includes kids and animals.

That's a far different statement than being bisexual or even being open to a variety of fetishes.

I just assumed that was their way of saying "I'd be willing to fuck anything, but nothing has ever offered."

...although it definitely took some chutzpah for them to refer to the attorney as a 'nutcase'.

Quote from: shoplifter;1085771This will still not satisfy the mob.

Partially because there are people out there who fan the flames of hate. For fun. Posing as one side or the other. But in realith neither. Just there to instigate. No. Really. A few years back I found out a customer of mine was doing this and I stopped dealing with them thereafter.