When one person has problems everywhere they go, it's a reasonable presumption they are the problem. Without in any way implying that rpgnet are in any way good or right of course.

Quote from: EOTB;1083357For any lurkers, I'd like to point out that anyone can go to DF, look around, and see the above is entirely fantasy.  I'm not going to debate someone else's fantasy with them, only ask that if you as a lurker might be inclined to accept it, to instead confirm it.

Why Gamedaddy would be having problems with so many different places I can't hope to guess, but I'd point out he's having problems at many disparate places and presuming they all have the issues.

Gamedaddy has a big lawn, well watered, and no dogs or children allowed.

Dragonsfoot is actually just fine, and while not too exciting, if you stop in every now and then there's always interesting stuff being posted, and more actual "game useable" content than just about anywhere else.

Quote from: CarlD.;1083319As I haven't been there before, what are the hyenas likely to consider poking?

Maybe this:

Quote from: ENWorld rulesYou MAY NOT use the terms "agenda", "ideology", "politics", or "propaganda" in relation to the inclusion of people slightly different to you in gaming products or other media, use pejorative terms such as "social justice warrior" or "virtue signalling" to dismiss the opinions of those you disagree with...

Quote from: Aglondir;1083371Maybe this:

The term Social Justice Warrior is not perjurative, however some do consider it derogatory as it does describe a radical activist that provides no actual facts or proof of any actual wrongdoing, however implies that someone else is morally inferior to them, or committing a crime just because the SJW guest "Feels" that a crime is being committed, or some wrong is being perpetrated against them. Such ridiculous behavior in public forums needs to be called out, because SJW activists revel in making other people miserable or unhappy, damage other peoples reputations spewing their vague allegations, slandererous and veiled threats, and they do not provide any due process or provide no real cause or reason to demonstrate such behavior, and should be identified and tracked as the poison that they are to our hobby.

Quote from: S'mon;1083359When one person has problems everywhere they go, it's a reasonable presumption they are the problem. Without in any way implying that rpgnet are in any way good or right of course.

In this case this is not a reasonable presumption, Because I don't have problems every where I go, just in those places that I mentioned in this thread, nor is it important over the long term as I'm perfectly happy not participating in gaming discussions on those websites, although I'll admit that I will miss the both the friendship and cameraderie of some of the less radical gamers on those websites, the ones that just care to sit at the gaming table with me, or participate in civil discussions in a gaming forums, and have a good time roleplaying. For folks like that, my non-participation is a loss, and I keenly feel the loss of their good company.

Quote from: EOTB;1083357For any lurkers, I'd like to point out that anyone can go to DF, look around, and see the above is entirely fantasy.  I'm not going to debate someone else's fantasy with them, only ask that if you as a lurker might be inclined to accept it, to instead confirm it.

Indeed. Go and see what they have done, and the disrespect they have shown to the old TSR crew over there, and if you find no evidence, get back to me here, and I'll post screenshots of their malice, and start naming names of who there participated with hostility in the purges of the original TSR game designers, and which of the mods there supported said purges by silencing the protests of the accused and denying them their rightful due to present evidence supporting their innocence.

Put em up.  In the amount of time it took you to type that you could have shown the whole world.

Quote from: CarlD.;1083319As I haven't been there before, what are the hyenas likely to consider poking?

For one thing, guys that are into wearing mens clothing is a no-no.

Quote from: Melan;1083300
[edit]I will have to be That Guy and point out that 99% of adult males using cutesy pink avatars are mental cases. As a warning sign, it is a more accurate indicator than danger hair.

Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is danger hair?

Quote from: S'mon;1083350Well if you have to ask... To give you some idea, our BedrockBrendan is regarded as an extreme right winger and possible racist/sexist/fascist over there... So you guys might want to stay away.

Wait. WUT?!

Quote from: EOTB;1083357For any lurkers, I'd like to point out that anyone can go to DF, look around, and see the above is entirely fantasy.  I'm not going to debate someone else's fantasy with them, only ask that if you as a lurker might be inclined to accept it, to instead confirm it.

Actually. I have poked around Dragonsfoot before this thread and have seen some things that seemed a little... off. An attitude shift? There has been one or two other posters here who have noted something off as well over there before I believe? So there may well be something wrong?

If there is, I'm there so much that I can't tell the difference.  It wouldn't surprise me if DF's culture hasn't changed more than once in the 20 years its been around, though.

Some of the Dragonsfoot posters can be obnoxious (EOTB here can certainly be abrasive) but IME the moderation has always been impeccable. Some don't like that it is so even handed I guess - ancient luminaries don't receive much special treatment and annoying jerkwads benefit from the procedural fairness rather than being arbitrarily stomped on. So one could say it is *too* fair - but I prefer that to the alternative.

Quote from: 3rik;1083407Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is danger hair?

Wait. WUT?!

http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?657679-Do-orcs-in-gaming-display-parallels-to-colonialist-propaganda

You'll have to wade through a lot.

I have to say that after reading dozens of pages of them calling Brendan a racist, all the anger I'd had towards him for prior bust ups dissipated, and in the words of Martin Luther King we sat down together at the table of brotherly love. So some good did come of it.

Danger hair - dyed hair, pink green or blue. A common sign of mental illness and SJW tendencies, especially when scraggly and ill maintained, or dyed beard and lipstick on men (the "Kobel"). On women tends to be a sign of the mentally ill Tru Believer cultist  rather than the cynical cult leader Thulsa Doom/Anita Sarkeesian type.

Quote from: EOTB;1083413If there is, I'm there so much that I can't tell the difference.  It wouldn't surprise me if DF's culture hasn't changed more than once in the 20 years its been around, though.

Same with BGG. Lot of people never seen the bad behavior over there. Others are so very much less fortunate and Im one of them. Probably like me and RPG.net. I've only seen like two instances of the crazy that the place is. But whoooeeee have others been the diametric opposite.

Quote from: GameDaddy;1083376The term Social Justice Warrior is not perjurative, however some do consider it derogatory as it does describe a radical activist that provides no actual facts or proof of any actual wrongdoing, however implies that someone else is morally inferior to them, or committing a crime just because the SJW guest "Feels" that a crime is being committed, or some wrong is being perpetrated against them. Such ridiculous behavior in public forums needs to be called out, because SJW activists revel in making other people miserable or unhappy, damage other peoples reputations spewing their vague allegations, slandererous and veiled threats, and they do not provide any due process or provide no real cause or reason to demonstrate such behavior, and should be identified and tracked as the poison that they are to our hobby.

You sound like a "Conservative Justice Warrior" or Russian Troll or whatever they call SJWs on the other side of the political fence.

Here's an axiom, "If I'm advocating hunting people down to expell them to make a more and more pure group, then maybe I'm an ass".

There is a large difference between calling people dumb idiots and "finding the poison".