Quote from: jeff37923;1084474I agree, Social Justice Terrorists seems to be a much better fit.

I'd prefer, "People not deserving of my contempt." Much like actual terrorists. Contempt requires a lot of work.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1084491And you know what? I'd be OK with that if there were reparations for being falsely or unfairly accused in these situations. Without that a life can be ruined on an accusation. which is not a thing I'm willing to tolerate.

There is, but it requires the party who made the false accusation to actually have some assets worth going after them for.

Quote from: S'mon;1083526They have been trying to expand the definition of harassment to single interactions. A guy asks a girl out and she says no, they want that to be harassment if she didn't enjoy the approach. So being hit on by a charming bad boy is not harassment but being hit on by an awkward nerd is.

Lets not forget the whole ploy of "Oh I said yes at the time but now I dont like him so that was really rape."

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1084507https://twitter.com/amazonchique/status/1119247088582189056?s=21

Posted this before but did not post for some reason.

Thank you! And it looks like someone archived it a hour ago too

Concerningly, this did not come up on either a #Google or #Twitter search for me.

Quote from: Tanin Wulf;1084516There is, but it requires the party who made the false accusation to actually have some assets worth going after them for.

And that's the problem.

People with nothing to lose have been given the power to bring whoever they want down to their level.

#CrabBucket.

Quote from: Haffrung;1084098There's nothing wrong with getting drunk, even if you're married and a father.

Off topic maybee. From decades of experience with multiple family members and now a former player who drink heavily and get drunk. I have to very disagree with the idea that there is nothing wrong with getting drunk. There is alot wrong. The least of which is judgement impairment and then stepping up from there. And unfortunately I have seen every step up all the way to attempted homicide and attempted suicide. And in one case it cost someone their life and utterly destroyed anothers.

Or were you really meaning getting slightly tipsy or just a mild buzz? But even that can and often will leave judgement impaired a little.

Where this comes back on topic on the Webb case is the question of wether he was actually drunk? Or was he just buzzing and probably not thinking exactly clearly?

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1084191Besides, turn over your average internet SJW and you've got a more-than-even-chance of finding a degenerate anyway.  Normal, non-controversial (to anyone else) behavior such as flirting, or so on, that's a sin to them.  But the bulk of them will defend degenerate behavior, or at least engage in hypocrisy about it.

The hypocrisy runs deep in some SJW circles, that's for sure, and not only on the internet. My wife's former boss was a very influential professor and dean whose line of work was, basically, social justice for workers. I know for a fact that she's had some influence on political candidates like Hillary Clinton. She's working for equality and better work conditions around the world. Her stances on official issues would go from (in my view) reasonable (such as better rules for maternal/paternal leave for workers) to a bit cuckoo (both men and women should be able to do either male or female roles in Hollywood, because there's no difference apparently). But she was a complete hypocrite, as it is really all about her career. She would whip her own employees around like something I have rarely heard of from the most cynical bosses, making them work ungodly (and illegal) amount of hours with no overtime, and giving her workers psychological problems in the process. If she disagreed with someone she would ridicule and grind them to dust at official meetings, so everyone could see how "stupid" they were. The university did not catch on to any of this until she picked a fight with the university leadership, and she's now been demoted (although in her words she "decided not to renew her deanship").

For the record, hypocrisy can be found in all sorts of places, but in some cases it just seems so jarring given their line of their "life's work". Sorry, just needed to rant a bit

Quote from: Omega;1084524Off topic maybee. From decades of experience with multiple family members and now a former player who drink heavily and get drunk. I have to very disagree with the idea that there is nothing wrong with getting drunk. There is alot wrong. The least of which is judgement impairment and then stepping up from there. And unfortunately I have seen every step up all the way to attempted homicide and attempted suicide. And in one case it cost someone their life and utterly destroyed anothers.

Or were you really meaning getting slightly tipsy or just a mild buzz? But even that can and often will leave judgement impaired a little.

Where this comes back on topic on the Webb case is the question of wether he was actually drunk? Or was he just buzzing and probably not thinking exactly clearly?

Really...

Quote from: jhkimNick Rekieta is claiming that this cigarette story what happened in his video, but I haven't seen that from any of the previous descriptions of the incident.

Quote from: jhkimHas anyone seen this cigarette story from anywhere other than Rekieta's video? What is his source for that?

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1084491The source is Bill Webb, and the reason you haven't heard it before is because he hasn't said anything in his defense until now.

Thanks. Has Webb posted his account of this anywhere, or was it a private communication to Rekieta?

I found Rekieta's video misleading, because makes it sound like the cigarette story is what others are accusing Webb of - when his video is the first mention of the story, and it has no resemblance to the prior accusation. Right or wrong, the accusation is that he drunkenly stalked a woman through the halls until a con staff member intervened to stop him.

I almost regret that I do not have an account at rpg.net so I cannot read the other thread, and then I remember why I would not want to post there.

Quote from: Myrdin Potter;1084547I almost regret that I do not have an account at rpg.net so I cannot read the other thread, and then I remember why I would not want to post there.

RPG.net is the cancer that is killing table top gaming.

Which is a goal of a great number of its users, I would wager.

Quote from: jhkim;1084538Thanks. Has Webb posted his account of this anywhere, or was it a private communication to Rekieta?

I found Rekieta's video misleading, because makes it sound like the cigarette story is what others are accusing Webb of - when his video is the first mention of the story.

This entire statement is not true except for perhaps, the very first part. What you probably meant to say though, is that you found Rekieta's video confusing because this is perhaps the very first time you have heard an account of just some of what may have actually happened at the convention, right? Also what do you suppose the odds are, ...this is what actually occurred two years ago?

Quote from: jhkimThanks. Has Webb posted his account of this anywhere, or was it a private communication to Rekieta?

I found Rekieta's video misleading, because makes it sound like the cigarette story is what others are accusing Webb of - when his video is the first mention of the story.

Quote from: GameDaddy;1084562This entire statement is not true.

Can you clarify what you mean there?  Has there been a previous mention of the cigarette story?  If so, could you link it?  I haven't seen it in previous discussion, and Anon Adderlan seemed to confirm that.

Quote from: jhkim;1084563Can you clarify what you mean there?  Has there been a previous mention of the cigarette story?  If so, could you link it?  I haven't seen it in previous discussion, and Anon Adderlan seemed to confirm that.

No. Yes. No. Probably the best place for people to learn about this is on Nick Reiketa's Youtube channel, since it seems that attorneys are now using media and public forums to demonstrate some of the finer points of law. It is obviously illegal in Texas to damage someone's business or reputation by making unsubstantiated or false claims about them, which seems perfectly reasonable to me.

This is a free country, and everyone is free to dislike who they want. It is not ok though for the general public to destroy anyone's livelihood though, or to continuously harrass, stalk, or lie about them, or to damage their reputation or friendships.

Definition of libel
a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
synonyms:   defamation, defamation of character, character assassination, calumny, misrepresentation, scandalmongering; aspersions, denigration, vilification, disparagement, derogation, insult, slander, malicious gossip, tittle-tattle, traducement;
lie, slur, smear, untruth, false insinuation, false report, smear campaign, slight, innuendo, rumor;
informal mudslinging; informal bad-mouthing;

Definition of defamation of character
"Defamation of character" is a catch-all term for any statement that hurts someone's reputation. Written defamation is called "libel," while spoken defamation is called "slander." Defamation is not a crime, but it is a "tort" (a civil wrong, rather than a criminal wrong).

Quote from: GameDaddy;1084569No. Yes. No. Probably the best place for people to learn about this is on Nick Reiketa's Youtube channel, since it seems that attorneys are now using media and public forums to demonstrate some of the finer points of law. It is obviously illegal in Texas to damage someone's business or reputation by making unsubstantiated or false claims about them, which seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I completely agree that making false claims to damage someone's business should be punished. If Brookes and/or Hensley lied about what Webb did at PaizoCon 2017 - then they and anyone knowingly passing along their lies should be held responsible. If those claims were truthful, though, then they should not be punished.

I have no opinion on whether Brookes and/or Hensley lied at this point.

Reiketa's Youtube video fails to mention what Brookes and Hensley actually said, and instead reports only this cigarette story. Regardless of whether the cigarette story is true or not, that's not what Webb has been accused of. I'd be interested to hear his side of the story, and I'd prefer to hear it as he tells it rather than second-hand through Reiketa.

https://twitter.com/sphynxian/status/882439561237995520?s=21

This is one of the original reports that started everything. Note the actual report and note the distortions that have appeared since then.