Anyone ever get this? I was a huge, huge, huge fan of the movie when I was younger. Holds a very special place in my heart.
If you had it, how was it? Is it worth the high premium asked for it these days?
Every time I see it on eBay, I think "that might be interesting," but never get it in the end.
I have it, but it's mostly just collected notes and extrapolation on the various stuff shown in the movie (i.e. a few pages for each of the major characters, places, and things). There are some pretty arbitrary AD&D game stats thrown in (Bavmorda as a 36th level magic-user), but they're quite brief and not particularly useful.
There are no adventure seeds or outlines.
jhkim- thanks. Doesn't sound as if I am missing much for the $40 and up price tag it seems to go for.
They had it in the local library back in the day. I was disappointed that it was basically systemless D&D content.
Madmartigan is a seventeenth level fighter or two levels higher than the highest level fighter in your world.
Anyhow, regardless of all that, I loved the movie. The novel was okay. The Chris Clairmont novel was so disappointing that I didn't bother to read the others.
And I really liked Clairmont at the time.
Quote from: David Johansen;886438The Chris Clairmont novel was so disappointing that I didn't bother to read the others.
Yeah, I read that one. It was pretty terrible.
I loved the movie as a child! With Legend, Labyrinth, Krull, Return to OZ, The Wiz, Never-Ending Story, and the like it's a miracle my Gen X, cusp of Millenials, generation only made zany cartoons, video games, and fake news & punditry shows in their adulthood. You'd think we'd be harvesting humor from our laughter trees on the funny farms by now. :p
Anyway, it seems we've found a rare gem in Willow being "better than the book."
How bad of a movie rehash was the RPG setting material? Did they bother expanding the world? Or did Nintendo's NES game do a better job of fleshing out the little details in the world?
Quote from: Opaopajr;886640I loved the movie as a child! With Legend, Labyrinth, Krull, Return to OZ, The Wiz, Never-Ending Story, and the like it's a miracle my Gen X, cusp of Millenials, generation only made zany cartoons, video games, and fake news & punditry shows in their adulthood. You'd think we'd be harvesting humor from our laughter trees on the funny farms by now. :p
Anyway, it seems we've found a rare gem in Willow being "better than the book."
The novelization was okay, it's the sequel novels that were awful, and honest, retroactively ruined the movie for me, like Alien 3 did to Aliens.
Quote from: jhkim;886365I have it, but it's mostly just collected notes and extrapolation on the various stuff shown in the movie (i.e. a few pages for each of the major characters, places, and things). There are some pretty arbitrary AD&D game stats thrown in (Bavmorda as a 36th level magic-user), but they're quite brief and not particularly useful.
There are no adventure seeds or outlines.
Quote from: David Johansen;886438Madmartigan is a seventeenth level fighter or two levels higher than the highest level fighter in your world.
Gotta love the '70s and '80s trend of trying to give any fictional character stats that made them untouchable. Actually,
Indiana Jones is kind of an exception due to the fact you actually play the characters from the movies, but if they hadn't gone down that path, they would have made Short Round the systems equivalent of a 25th-level monk.
Quote from: JeremyR;886731The novelization was okay, it's the sequel novels that were awful, and honest, retroactively ruined the movie for me, like Alien 3 did to Aliens.
I hated Alien 3 when it first came out. It sorta ruined things for me, too. Then 4 came out, and then AVP 1 & 2... And then I looked back at 3 with softer, more nostalgic eyes.
Now I see 1 as classic, almost gothic, horror. Two I see as an action romp through a nightmare realm. And 3 has become, in light from the shlock after, a fatalistic character piece.
Four is this sci-fi existentialist crisis about what it means to be human and have fee-fees. AVP are these action camp romps; fun mindless popcorn camp. Ask more questions than that and it breaks like wet tissue. Also not all that great in repeat viewings...
...And now I know to not read the Willow series!
Quote from: David Johansen;886438They had it in the local library back in the day. I was disappointed that it was basically systemless D&D content.
Madmartigan is a seventeenth level fighter or two levels higher than the highest level fighter in your world.
Anyhow, regardless of all that, I loved the movie. The novel was okay. The Chris Clairmont novel was so disappointing that I didn't bother to read the others.
And I really liked Clairmont at the time.
The thing was, Claremont was both the best and worst thing to happen to the X-Men.
The good thing was that he powered up the female characters and made them able to stand on their own two feet, whether it by raw power, or by giving them a personality.
The bad thing is that he can't write men. He doesn't want to write male characters, which is half the world's population. And thus, unless you force him to work with a male character, he'll try and get rid of them.
Like he did with Cyclops and Madeline Pryor, or turning Wolverine into a rabid beast for an arc, so he could focus on his pet, Jubilee.
I loved Willow, but to me, it's one of those 'closed' settings, where once you end the big threat, there's not much to do, similar to LoTR. Great reading/watching, but I don't want to game there.