What does any of this have to do with the actual thread topic?

Quote from: Sacrosanct;556068Well, then it seems like the fix is an easy one.  Rename this forum to "traditional role-playing games", and add a subforum called "storygames"

That way you have an official policy that enables you to move any storygaming talk out of this main forum without coming off as just moving it to be a dick.

The people that object to moving it would still object because they deny the distinction between a game that has primarily metagame-driven story mechanics with roleplaying in it, and a role-playing game.

Pundit makes the change you suggest and then the debate about the word "traditional" and "storygame" starts.

When they're not specifically trying to be intellectually dishonest, people know what the difference is, they just don't like the classification.  Well, open your own forum then, or call Pundit a useless cocksucker (you have the freedom to do that) and then go talk about your Storygame in the other forum.

Or you know, if you really were that into that type of game, you could go to Story-games.com. An AW thread is right on the first forum page with 58 replies.  Go for it!

Quote from: Marleycat;556077What does any of this have to do with the actual thread topic?

Damned if I know.

(and yes, I decided to take a short break from my Deadpool avatar, cause Curly needed to be represented, yo! )

Quote from: Novastar;556082Damned if I know.

(and yes, I decided to take a short break from my Deadpool avatar, cause Curly needed to be represented, yo! )

Heh, Jack Palance is a good choice.

Quote from: jhkim;556076I only occasionally stop by rpg.net, so I don't have a good idea about what happened over there. .

What happened over there is that they promoted Rand to a moderator and now he's banning people for things like starting a sentence on a new line rather than continue it in a more traditional paragraph form.

Quote from: jhkim;556076I trying to understand your view from this.  Are you saying that discussion of story games is a danger, and that there needs to be active policing to keep that discussion out of the RPG forum here?

It is not dangerous, but it is off-topic. This forum is not for Story Games and I for one welcome that.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;556087What happened over there is that they promoted Rand to a moderator and now he's banning people for things like starting a sentence on a new line rather than continue it in a more traditional paragraph form.

Thank God it got reversed I have no idea how you can ban somebody for bad grammar and expect to be taken seriously.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;556087What happened over there is that they promoted Rand to a moderator and now he's banning people for things like starting a sentence on a new line rather than continue it in a more traditional paragraph form.

...what...

Quote from: Marleycat;556090Thank God it got reversed I have no idea how you can ban somebody for bad grammar and expect to be taken seriously.

Well, it's indicative of why so many people who are on this site prefer this forum, storygame discussions or no.  They promoted Rand and Kai, who immediately went on banning crusades against anyone they don't like (Rand especially), and the admin's positions are heavily into a "rather than admit we were wrong in promoting these guys, we'll circle the wagons and let it continue."

Now, I know Cessna isn't a bad guy.  But his problem is that he's old school military.  Being military myself, I know what that's like.  He's gonna cover for his team, right or wrong, every time.  That's why he gets so defensive whenever someone criticizes a mod.  And that's why he'll never admit that it was a huge mistake to promote them.

Quote from: Marleycat;556077What does any of this have to do with the actual thread topic?

Ghost has sand in his vagina again about the Other Games forums.  He'll rant like a screaming banshee (his avatar is fucking perfect) for a while and then go on to something else probably FFG related.  In the meantime, a couple people will come on to point out how horrible and restrictive this site is with complete immunity.  It happens every so often.

Quote from: jhkim;556076I trying to understand your view from this.  Are you saying that discussion of story games is a danger, and that there needs to be active policing to keep that discussion out of the RPG forum here?  

From my point of view, I think heavy-handed moderation to separate out undesired points of view are a cure worse than the disease - regardless of whether that view is OSR, story games, 4e fans, or what have you.

"Dangerous" is a silly way to put it.  Nothing that gets discussed on these boards is dangerous.  It's all pissing in the wind.  If anyone thinks anything that happens on an rpg board is dangerous or in any way important, they need to take some time off and re-evaluate their lives.

I'm saying exactly what I said: there are people who, for whatever reason, feel the need to bring their "gaming theory" ideas into every thread and shit up whatever discussion is going on.  At rpg.net it got so you couldn't discuss trad games for years, because someone would come in with Fantasy Heartbreaker this and Big Model that and on and on ad infinitum.

There was a guy who showed up here about a year after I joined (he had a Where's Waldo avatar) who did exactly what I described in just about every thread on the RPG board.  Before that, Lev Lafayette did the same thing before he found rpg.net.

I, too, miss rgfa, though I only lurked there.  That was "theory" discussion that actually had a grounding in reality, and those theories were tested by actual play, not the kind of shit Ron and Levi started preaching on BBSs.  But our current governor decided that Usenet was a danger to society and basically got it outlawed in NYS when he was AG.  I still hate the fucker for that.

QuoteOne of the RPGnet rules is "respect your fellow posters," and one of the ways we expect you to do this is by using correct grammar and spelling and by making posts that other users can read easily. I've admonished you in the past on multiple occasions for your sloppy and frequently incomprehensible posting habits, and been ignored. This time, I'm throwing in a sanction.

Please take the time to post coherently and with respect for the rules of grammar, or refrain from posting at all.

Ahem...

QuoteOne of the RPGnet rules is to "respect your fellow posters," and one of the ways that we expect you to accomplish this is by using proper grammar and spelling, and by making posts that other users can easily read. I have admonished you in the past, on multiple occasions, for your sloppy and frequently incomprehensible posting habits, and have been ignored. This time, I'm throwing in a sanction.

Please take the time to post in a coherent manner and with respect for the rules of grammar, or refrain from posting at all.

I figure I've missed a few, but Glass Houses and all that... :rolleyes:

Quote from: CRKrueger;556095Ghost has sand in his vagina again about the Other Games forums.  He'll rant like a screaming banshee (his avatar is fucking perfect) for a while and then go on to something else probably FFG related.  In the meantime, a couple people will come on to point out how horrible and restrictive this site is with complete immunity.  It happens every so often.

I really don't get why it's so bad to post in other games if you're talking White Wolf or FFG, or even Shadowrun. The main forum is implicitly for Dnd centric games. It really isn't rocket science.

As I said if anybody ever wants to talk Mage I would be right there participating but most storygames, or in that style don't interest me so I don't participate in whatever thread that may be made.

Quote from: Marleycat;556099I really don't get why it's so bad to post in other games if you're talking White Wolf or FFG, or even Shadowrun. The main forum is implicitly for Dnd centric games. It really isn't rocket science.

As I said if anybody ever wants to talk Mage I would be right there participating but most storygames, or in that style don't interest me so I don't participate in whatever thread that may be made.

Actually you can talk WW or the 40k RPGs or Shadowrun all day long here, as they're not Storygames.

WH40k RPG is one of the few areas where I and Pundit disagree, actually. He see's it as "misery tourism", where as I enjoy the "grim darkness".