I think it helps, no matter what side of the fence you are on, to have a sense of humor about these things.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;555911Oh get over yourself.

Ad hom attacks like that are fucking pathetic. Being high doesn't mean being a victim of drugs either, something you clearly know fuck all about. Try actually READING what i've written instread of filtering it through your internal prejudice

No, what happened was you drew back for a big ridicule routine swing and it blew up in your face.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to go collect a cheque from one of my paying customers, capitalist pig that I am, and maybe snort some coke off a hooker's tits later, depending on the form. If I am high later at least I'll know not to tell you about it.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;555909er, what else do you discuss on rpg forums but games and game mechanics you twit.

You can do that without coming across as a bitter basement dweller, man.  Seriously.

Quote from: The Traveller;555896Was the Other Games forum closed without anyone telling me?

Nope still there, you can still post to it and everything. No guard dogs at the gate, no pop-up ads declaring you a sub-human.  Just a place for games that are not Role-playing Games.  You don't even get banned for calling Pundit badnames Every.Single.Time. he moves stuff there (and sometimes just out of the blue crying).  No difference between here and purple, really.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: KenHR;555917You can do that without coming across as a bitter basement dweller, man.  Seriously.

what do you think i'm bitter about?

Quote from: CRKrueger;555928Nope still there, you can still post to it and everything. No guard dogs at the gate, no pop-up ads declaring you a sub-human.  Just a place for games that are not Role-playing Games.  You don't even get banned for calling Pundit badnames Every.Single.Time. he moves stuff there (and sometimes just out of the blue crying).  No difference between here and purple, really.  :rolleyes:

Except for the games that are actually roleplaying games that do get moved over there we'd be fine.

It's not even as if he can back up his reason for moving threads other than to say 'swine' as if that actually meant anything.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;555932what do you think i'm bitter about?

I gave up trying to figure that out years ago, my man.  Not that I tried for that long.

Quote from: KenHR;555937I gave up trying to figure that out years ago, my man.  Not that I tried for that long.

Perhaps actually reading the posts of the people you moan about first then. Certainly if you want to avoid looking like a complete twat.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;555889Which is exactly what is happening when some mod decides to move threads around. That is EXACTLY the sort of crap that goes on at the site we are all complaining about. To then advertise we are better is beyond hypocrisy.

That's because you seem to still have this illusion that this place wants to be "RPGnet... but better!"

This is not the case.

This place is not RPGnet, nor does it want to be. It is an alternative to RPGnet for people who enjoy role playing games and want to talk about actual gaming and games without the Tangency bullshit, the Swinish pretention that RPGs are art meant to explore the depth of whatever the fuck makes you sound cool and intellectual these days, without the Forgist theory bullshit that wants to construe RPGs as things they are not to promote the storywank of bat penis experts, without all the wank of failed authors who should write fucking books instead of fucking up popular RPGs to change them into something they're not.

The RPG Site is NOT an "emotionally safe" environment. It does not have a vocation to catter to your own delusions of what being welcoming means or does not mean. It is not about "one size fits all", "keeping the peace" or any of that Kool Aid you seem addicted to. It does welcome all manners of actual gamers, but after that, your reputation is pretty much left to what you decide to post and not to post.

If you come across as a whiner who can't get over the fact his threads get moved to another forum and keeps on bitching endlessly about it for years to then keep on posting the same stuff in the wrong places over and over again, then so be it. You'll be treated as such.

Quote from: ghost whistler;555939perhaps actually reading the posts of the people you moan about first then. Certainly if you want to avoid looking like a complete twat.

no i'm getting the last word in!

more seriously, I can't figure out what you're bitter about in your little life, you just channel it all into whinery on this board.

I'm not even sure why the forum it goes in matters. Is someone not using the 'new posts' feature?
Really I'd be okay with a free for all, as long as we could keep religion and politics out of it (which we can never seem to push entirely to the curb).

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;555934Except for the games that are actually roleplaying games that do get moved over there we'd be fine.

It's not even as if he can back up his reason for moving threads other than to say 'swine' as if that actually meant anything.

I agree with Ghost Whistler; telling people from TBP to come here because this forum - or more specifically in this case, the moderators - don't have an agenda is disingenuous at best. If there's one thing RPGPundit, Benoist, et al, definitely do have, it's their own agendas. What they bend over backward to avoid doing, however, is censor or ban people. I, for one, can cope with a few silly agendas on the part of the mods as long as we get the chance to pursue a few silly agendas of our own.

Look, you can't on one hand crow about straightforward gaming talk and a lack of agendas, bitch about the like on RPG.net, and then relegate legit RPGs like Apocalypse World or Hot War to the "Other Games" ghetto when they're both clearly RPGs by any rational standard. I don't like or play AW and I pretty much loathe every RPG Vince Baker has ever published, but my loathing doesn't make it any less an RPG. Neither does yours.

The hypocrisy on display here makes several of you look like Tangency-class fucktards.

KoOS

P.S. No, I don't use the "New Posts" function. I read the forums that interest me and ignore the forums that don't.

Quote from: King of Old School;555949P.S. No, I don't use the "New Posts" function. I read the forums that interest me and ignore the forums that don't.

I totally read this in a mean old man voice.

Apocalypse World is in the margins, Hot War is a bog-standard Storygame using task-resolution to determine how players not characters narrate results.  Example from a review on purple...

Quote from: Hot War ReviewIt was around this point in the text I realized that Hot War is pretty much designed not as a "story telling game" but more of a "story sharing game". In Hot War's sample text, one character shoots and kills another. Out of game, the players discuss what the results of one shooting the other should be. While there doesn't have to necessarily be any such discussion, the game's emphasis on character agendas, relationships, and traits almost encourages players to think in terms of an overall story rather than life-taking, looting, and leveling. GMs still hold importance and sway of course, but the game is directed more towards a group effort rather than the GM being in full control at all times.

Metagame mechanics from player's PoV rather then character's PoV - DNA of a Storygame.  I have Hot War and the reviewer used the wrong term when he says "encourages" players to think in terms of story, the game's mechanics as written require it.  

You may not like Pundit's definition of RPGs, and feel free to call him poopypants because of it, but by that definition, Hot War is clearly defined as a Storygame, not an RPG.