The War Against Desborough and Mongoose Publishing

Ian Warner · June 25, 2012, 04:06:06 AM

Quote from: James Gillen;5526195. Do you speak with a Jamaican accent?

Whadaya mean what kind o' accent is this? IT IS A TROLL ACCENT! Ah Ja- Makin' me crazy!

RPGPundit · June 25, 2012, 04:34:37 AM

Quote from: _kent_;552471Maybe you should fuck off then.

The idea that idiot mods involved in any discussion can ban people with opposing views is repulsive.

Only a mod who didn't post in this thread should have considered the ban.

An opposing view to thinking that women are sub-human (along with the blacks and the gays)? Who the fuck here WOULDN'T have an opposing view to that?

But that's not relevant anyways. People don't get banned from this forum for their "views". They get banned here for being disruptive pieces of shit, which BT was in spade. And they only get banned after being given umpteen chances and a much wider margin of patience, patience to rival motherfucking Job, and make it abundantly clear that they just can't stop being disruptive pieces of shit.

Bitch, please. Show me one other significant forum where BT could have kept on posting the kind of shit he did for as long as he did.

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RPGPundit · June 25, 2012, 04:37:13 AM

Quote from: One Horse Town;552499I don't think i entirely agree with this statement, but it's becoming pretty clear that some of the most vocal are non-gamers who know only what gamers have posted to get them outraged.

I mean, i've posted a pageful of quotes that glorify rape and mysogyny from Baker and his cronies and not only isn't it being acknowledgeod as such, apparently it's an attempt to derail the thread...

So yeah, looks like this is just about Desborough and these dicks can't see their hypocracy.

Well of course its hypocrisy, that's why they're Swine. They can justify pederastic necrophiliac throat-rape because its "art" and Baker is an "intellectual", and they've been told by the self-styled glitterati that they look to for being told what's fashionable that Baker is avant-garde and a sensitive genius. On the other hand, Mongoose makes games about Conan and Starships, so no matter how utterly flimsy the justification, it must be destroyed in order that fashionably-leftist hipsters can get their groovy-cards punched.

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RPGPundit · June 25, 2012, 04:48:05 AM

Quote from: James Gillen;552621Yeah, that's why I left, ultimately. If it was still a good place to discuss roleplaying and promote the industry, I could curb my speech, walk away from Tangency and just use the forum for what it was intended for. But roleplaying is no longer what it's about. They don't get that many RPG reviews any more and when I was still following them, those reviews didn't seem to get any comments.

We now have by far the best reviews sub-forum around. Plus the two most prolific and solicited reviewers around: myself and Davenport.

QuoteI think that as they allow themselves to be trolled like this for the sake of the correct "sociopolitical agenda", more and more people within the industry will see RPG.net as more a liability to them than an asset. More so than B.T. and his Dave-Sim-without-the-talent ranting here.

JG

"Will see"? Perhaps you haven't noticed how many industry guys are coming here nowadays (sometimes even instead of, not just in addition to, there)?

You'll note that when the Redbrick thing happened, the Redbrick guy wrote here, not there.

We've been getting several of those kind of scoops lately.

Oh, and of course, three of the big consultants that WoTC got are frequenters of this site and not the other one, including the owner/operator of this site, yours truly:

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Sinister Brain · June 25, 2012, 05:15:38 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;552660Bitch, please. Show me one other significant forum where BT could have kept on posting the kind of shit he did for as long as he did.

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4chan? :idunno:

The Traveller · June 25, 2012, 06:44:44 AM

Quote from: James Gillen;552621I think that as they allow themselves to be trolled like this for the sake of the correct "sociopolitical agenda", more and more people within the industry will see RPG.net as more a liability to them than an asset.

I think you're giving them too much credit here tbh. Rather than allowing themselves to be trolled, they are actively encouraging it, inciting it themselves, and rather than trolling they see it as a jihad.

The motivations of such mysterious company must neccessarily be obscure, perhaps they feel the ship is sinking anyway, may as well do some GOOD as they mistakenly imagine. Which once again proves the truism, there's nothing more dangerous than someone out to do the world a favour, which is worth a moment's ponder.

GRIM · June 25, 2012, 07:17:32 AM

Quote from: daniel_ream;552641Bah. I've got half a mind to just buy the rpg.net domain and database outright.

It cannot possibly be a revenue generator for Skotos; offhand I'd guess 5 large would do it.

That's a Kickstarter I'd donate to.

GRIM · June 25, 2012, 07:19:28 AM

If anyone wants to ask me about any aspect of this clusterfuck I'm willing to give my version of events from my side.

The only places where discussion on this has been relatively sane is here and on 4chan (bizarrely) and 4chan keeps deleting the threads.

Plus, y'know, I can swear here...

_kent_ · June 25, 2012, 07:32:34 AM

Can someone explain what kind of forum and thread 'somethingawful.com' and 'grognards.txt' are without venting, Im looking for clarity?

I noticed them when they put chunks of my blog in their endless thread (why one thread?). Above they are characterised as trolls but they don't often put direct links to blogs/forums instead lifting the text out which seems sly and not very troll-like. Are they a gathering of young sneerers contemptuous of early rpgs? Are they old and jaded turncoats?

GRIM · June 25, 2012, 07:33:41 AM

Quote from: _kent_;552685Can someone explain what kind of forum and thread 'somethingawful.com' and 'grognards.txt' are without venting, Im looking for clarity?

I noticed them when they put chunks of my blog in their endless thread (why one thread?). Above they are characterised as trolls but they don't often put direct links to blogs/forums instead lifting the text out which seems sly and not very troll-like. Are they a gathering of young sneerers contemptuous of early rpgs? Are they old and jaded turncoats?

My impression is that it's just a place to laugh contemptuously at nerds that this group of nerds don't like. It's trolls and borderline trolls at best I think.

Sinister Brain · June 25, 2012, 08:17:10 AM

Here comes the rating system posts at the TBP. I think I'm going to puke.

I would voice my displeasure but I just got warned/threadbanned a little bit ago by Kai Tave for making fun of myself (Reversed by an admin) so I don't even think I'm going to fucking bother. I'll stick to the occasional post over there on games and helping/bullshitting with the actual gamers there and posting here instead.

P.S. it's ok to link to TPB stuff yes?

Ian Warner · June 25, 2012, 08:44:46 AM

I already have a ratings system of sorts: There is a content advisory for each product in my catalogue and if you don't like said content you can fuck right off.

vytzka · June 25, 2012, 08:57:19 AM

Quote from: _kent_;552685Can someone explain what kind of forum and thread 'somethingawful.com' and 'grognards.txt' are without venting, Im looking for clarity?

I noticed them when they put chunks of my blog in their endless thread (why one thread?). Above they are characterised as trolls but they don't often put direct links to blogs/forums instead lifting the text out which seems sly and not very troll-like. Are they a gathering of young sneerers contemptuous of early rpgs? Are they old and jaded turncoats?

A bunch of dorks who feel that their choice of dorky pastimes makes them more enlightened than you.

Oh and you have to pay to post there. Or have a custom avatar. Or do any number of other shit.

Ghost Whistler · June 25, 2012, 09:25:35 AM

Quote from: Sinister Brain;552687Here comes the rating system posts at the TBP. I think I'm going to puke.

I would voice my displeasure but I just got warned/threadbanned a little bit ago by Kai Tave for making fun of myself (Reversed by an admin) so I don't even think I'm going to fucking bother. I'll stick to the occasional post over there on games and helping/bullshitting with the actual gamers there and posting here instead.

P.S. it's ok to link to TPB stuff yes?

Ridiculous.

I could run a game of Black Crusade without all the unpeasant stuff that heretics might feasibly get up to.

Or I could read Matt Ward 40k fluff.

How do we rate Poison'd?

J Arcane · June 25, 2012, 09:27:07 AM

Quote from: Sinister Brain;552687Here comes the rating system posts at the TBP. I think I'm going to puke.

I would voice my displeasure but I just got warned/threadbanned a little bit ago by Kai Tave for making fun of myself (Reversed by an admin) so I don't even think I'm going to fucking bother. I'll stick to the occasional post over there on games and helping/bullshitting with the actual gamers there and posting here instead.

P.S. it's ok to link to TPB stuff yes?

No, it isn't.

This isn't "BitchAboutRPGnet.com" despite what some grudgebearing posters occasionally attempt to paint it as on all sides of the aisle (including locally).

If this issue didn't have broader consequences (albeit stupid ones for all concerned), and a broader reach than simply there, the thread would probably have been closed by now.

And this post doesn't seem to have any relevance to the actual topic of the thread.