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Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 22, 2008, 11:01:17 AM
You know? The LARPer guy who weighs 300lbs and has trouble breathing through his nose but is trying to convince you that he's a member of the delicate immortal race of elves?

Or what in Cosplay is the equivalent of this:

(http://kantenflimmern.de/wp-content/uploads/pokecosplay.jpg)

The person who in NO FUCKING WAY resembles what they're trying to portray.

Do you think there's an equivalent in RPGs too? Does it happen in your gaming group? Does it tie in with a lot of the "asshole" players? Does it explain them?

RPGPundit
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: blakkie on February 22, 2008, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: RPGPunditDo you think there's an equivalent in RPGs too?
Yeah, most players. Only they know it and do all of us the service of not trying to 'help' out our imaginations by dressing the part. :keke:
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: jgants on February 22, 2008, 11:45:59 AM
OK, Pundit, you owe me a new set of eyes now.

And some psychiatry bills will likely be headed your way, too...  :D
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: B.T. on February 22, 2008, 11:55:33 AM
This thread is the reason why these forums are better than the WotC forums.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: Nicephorus on February 22, 2008, 11:59:01 AM
Well, there are those players who are incapable of playing any personality other than their own with a side of metagame and self interest.  Oh sure, they may say that they're a ranger this time out to save the gnomes but their character winds up the same as all of their other characters.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 22, 2008, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: blakkieYeah, most players. Only they know it and do all of us the service of not trying to 'help' out our imaginations by dressing the part. :keke:

Well, I meant what is the non-dressing equivalent.  Since we regular non-insane RPGers don't dress the part, the equivalent would be somewhere in the realm of acting the part.

RPGPundit
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: Stumpydave on February 22, 2008, 12:23:08 PM
For me its politics.  I cannot do a political character.  I'd love to, the wheeling and dealing, the secrets and betrayals, the smoky rooms and machinations of real power.

But I get bored, I want to be the action hero, I want to bust in guns blazing and   chase the bad guys down the freeway at 120mph.

Somehow I can't see Francis Urquhart toting a twelve bore and kicking in doors, but for my sins, other people might.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: blakkie on February 22, 2008, 12:29:19 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditWell, I meant what is the non-dressing equivalent.  Since we regular non-insane RPGers don't dress the part, the equivalent would be somewhere in the realm of acting the part.
I don't play with professional actors (though I do play with someone that does, so maybe I will) or even active amateurs. Therefore my answer.  The only ones that don't fall into it are the few that:
1) always play the same PC (name may vary)
2) that character is the player very thinly veiled....but with an axe :)
3) or never speak in the 1st person (this I find rare, and I find it more annoying than crappy 'acting')
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: Pseudoephedrine on February 22, 2008, 12:35:39 PM
Neither myself, nor my current DM can play "good" PCs. We can play PCs who do good things every so often, but not good characters.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on February 22, 2008, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: StumpydaveSomehow I can't see Francis Urquhart toting a twelve bore and kicking in doors, but for my sins, other people might.


You might say so.  I couldn't possibly comment.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: James J Skach on February 22, 2008, 01:20:37 PM
The OP always reminds me of the saying "You can't stick a fork in your mind's eye..."

Thanks Pundit...Thanks a lot....
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: Blackleaf on February 22, 2008, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: blakkieor never speak in the 1st person (this I find rare, and I find it more annoying than crappy 'acting')

Really?  Will the say something like:  Thrag says "Have you seen the wizard?" -- or do they just not do dialogue and say: Thrag asks the innkeeper if he's seen the wizard.

Personally I'd rather hear the other players do either of the above than engage in bad 1st person acting.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: jeff37923 on February 23, 2008, 03:03:32 AM
Quote from: RPGPunditOr what in Cosplay is the equivalent of this:


The least you could do is put a warning label on the thread. Something like "Sanity-blasting imagery ahead! Caution!"



Some people, like me, dig the acting and can get into it and do a good job (used to do Summer Stock at the local theater). Some people just don't want to get that much into the role-playing and that's cool to. Some people try to role-play and just can't act to save their life, that's OK with me because my thespian sensibilities can take the punishment as long as role-playing their character doesn't mean fucking over the entire party and pissing people off for their own amusement.

I'm just really easygoing on this one while I'm gaming, because as long as we're all having fun then it's OK.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: pspahn on February 23, 2008, 03:18:56 AM
Quote from: blakkie1) always play the same PC (name may vary)
I hate ninjas and martial artists for this reason.  I had one player who insisted on playing the oriental monk/ninja/mystic martial artist in every game we played, and what's worse, he always played him as a soft-spoken Carradine clone.  As a strange aside, I ended up running an oriental adventures campaign and he was the only one who decided to play the gaijin European fantasy character.  Go figure.  

Quote3) or never speak in the 1st person (this I find rare, and I find it more annoying than crappy 'acting')
It's funny, but as a GM I almost never speak in first person.  I find it kind of  hard to protray the scene correctly, so I usually say something to the effect of "Carlton says" or "Carlton takes a deep breath and looks at you."  I think I'm scarred from an early GM who wanted everything done in-character, including an attempt I made to seduce a young woman.  I've said it before, but there's something kind of unsettling about trying to seduce a fat bearded guy who's acting coy and batting his eyelashes at you.  :)

Pete
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: dar on February 23, 2008, 08:50:33 AM
I prefer playing third person style. I do lapse into acting out imporant NPC's though, I tend to start and not realize it, just trying to get accross what is going on.

I think a nice short hand for threads with links like in the the OP would be like the NSFW label cept 3D6SL for 3d6 San Loss.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: David Johansen on February 23, 2008, 10:44:30 AM
Anyone who wants to play a monk in a eurocentric game?

Or to broaden that the person who absolutely cannot make a character that fits any setting unless they're given a very restrictive template list.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: KrakaJak on February 23, 2008, 03:05:05 PM
As a GM I often get stuck in a role I'm not qualified to play. In those situations I avoid going "in-character". I describe what people say, how people act or what impression they give in third person in descriptive terms rather than literal.

There was another player who tried to play a cross-dressing socialite Water-Caste Dragon-Blooded. This was pretty opposite of form for the player involved. He got the self-important attitude right, but failed horribly at the socially graceful.
Title: The Tabletop RPG Equivalent of the Fat Guy In the Elf Suit
Post by: blakkie on February 24, 2008, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: StuartReally?  Will the say something like:  Thrag says "Have you seen the wizard?" -- or do they just not do dialogue and say: Thrag asks the innkeeper if he's seen the wizard.
More like "I ask him if he's seen the wizard." This wierd, not quite 3rd person but not 1st person phrasing.  And yeah, it's 'I' but I think that belies that the susposed existance of the character doesn't really register with them.

Just talk in the first person once in a while. :p  I don't care if they try to act or not, hell I know I can't and from the GM seat I try to adjust the tone of my voice a little to differentiate who's speaking. Dwight the GM or the guy that might know where the wizard is.

EDIT: I'd even be more happy with true 3rd person.