Quote from: SeanchaiSo is Keep on the Borderlands.

Yeah, that makes me retract my initial assertion that it was a Sandbox module.  I think it has sandbox elements in it, in that it all sits there and exists with or without the adventurers.  But the level constraints of it (and how the Caves of Chaos get higher in level the higher in altitude you climb) is not sandboxy.  Rather it is sort of structured around a pre-defined story of adventurers killing harder and harder monsters and growing in experience and power as they do so.

Quote from: SeanchaiSo is Keep on the Borderlands.

I see you ignored the rest of my post. You know - the part about Adventure Paths following a scripted storyline.

Look, either you're remarkably obtuse and you don't understand something that almost everyone else here has no trouble understanding, or you really are just a fucking troll.

Maybe we could get a show of hands here.

Seanchai:

Obtuse?

Or Troll?

Quote from: HaffrungSeanchai:

Obtuse?

Or Troll?

Dude, move that poll to off-topic.

When I think of sandbox play, I think first about the player and the GM mentality about the play at the table. It's also pretty symbiotic, if they don't agree on the approach, trouble is likely.

A GM is taking a sandbox approach when he's open and receptive to the players moves and motivations. A GM who's sandboxing is treating every PC encounter like a potential hook, he knows there may be a chance that the players are gonna take something away from that moment and run with it.

Players are taking a sandbox approach when they are willing to take some of the reins in driving the action in game. Players who are sandboxing begin to figure out what they want from the world they're in and start to persue it.

Quote from: walkerp.... it's hard for me to say if that is being filtered through my lens of identity politics (though what my identity is, I'm not sure; one of you will tell me, I'm sure).

Just a little friendly ribbing, walkerp. I just meant that usually in discussions like these, some folks have a lot invested in their prefered style of play. As for your identity....post modern Swine ? (That's a joke, holster that gun....)

Regards,
David R

Quote from: David RI just meant that usually in discussions like these, some folks have a lot invested in their prefered style of play.

Regards,
David R

Of course I've got a lot invested.
You think stripper/ninjas are cheap to maintain?
You try getting all your gold pieces exchanged for one dollar bills. You have to go all the way to Hex 5678 for that.

Quote from: David RSandbox is a playstyle, right ? You can use it for most systems out there ? (Some settings/systems are specifically designed for this sort of play, but you can most trad systems for it)

Right all around!

Quote from: HaffrungI see you ignored the rest of my post. You know - the part about Adventure Paths following a scripted storyline.

Look, either you're remarkably obtuse and you don't understand something that almost everyone else here has no trouble understanding, or you really are just a fucking troll.

Maybe we could get a show of hands here.

Seanchai:

Obtuse?

Or Troll?

Your poll is flawed.
My posting history clearly proves  that these are not mutually exclusive characteristics.

Quote from: AosOf course I've got a lot invested.
You think stripper/ninjas are cheap to maintain?
You try getting all your gold pieces exchanged for one dollar bills. You have to go all the way to Hex 5678 for that.

That's why you should occasionally suck the Story Now! crackpipe....oh fuck it, you win again.

Regards,
David R

We're all winners here, David.

Quote from: David RJust a little friendly ribbing, walkerp. I just meant that usually in discussions like these, some folks have a lot invested in their prefered style of play.

You're right.  I'm getting way too invested.  Taking a step back for relaxation.

Quote from: David RAs for your identity....post modern Swine ? (That's a joke, holster that gun....)

Now this is a label I kind of like.  I think I may adopt it.

I say instead of worrying about what to call it, we do it.

But then we'd have nothing to talk about!

Quote from: walkerpBut then we'd have nothing to talk about!

The hell we wouldn't!  Play reports, anecdotes, what worked and what didn't, tips on dropping in modules, cool random charts...?

POSSIBILITIES, baby!  Dare to DREEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAM!

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!The hell we wouldn't!  Play reports, anecdotes, what worked and what didn't, tips on dropping in modules, cool random charts...?

POSSIBILITIES, baby!  Dare to DREEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAM!

I just posted on my City Guard campaign. I look at my notes and see what I can dig out for the other campaigns I ran both traditional and theme oriented.

Quote from: David RAs for your identity....post modern Swine ?

Did somebody call?