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Title: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: RPGPundit on July 02, 2024, 07:22:27 PM
The idea that �#dnd� is for "Everyone" is a lie. The truth is that actually, D&D is for ANYONE, and that's very different.
�#ttrpg� �#OSR�



Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Brad on July 02, 2024, 09:50:01 PM
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But yeah, interesting how this works. People are doing something, there are certain conceits you have to go along with if you want to do that, too. Instead these fucks infiltrate everything and destroy it from within by calling whatever they're doing "inclusive". Marxists are the worst...
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: RPGPundit on July 03, 2024, 09:02:30 AM
They sure are. But regular gamers have been bad at falling for their semantic traps. My video is an attempt to show how we need to forcibly reject their semantics and replace them with our own.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Heavy Josh on July 03, 2024, 12:53:25 PM
I like this semantic difference. It's not much, but it's a useful distinction.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: I on July 03, 2024, 04:02:51 PM
I like it too.  Short, succinct, and makes an important distinction.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Steven Mitchell on July 03, 2024, 04:07:57 PM
Quote from: I on July 03, 2024, 04:02:51 PMI like it too.  Short, succinct, and makes an important distinction.

It's a good response to have to a dishonest charge.  Because most of those charges are crafted to be short and fuzzy in such a way that they can't be answered briefly.  It's part of what makes them work.  This response isn't a full answer, but it is a lob back into the opponents court.  Very handy to see if they are one of the dishonest hacks or someone just confused.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: RPGPundit on July 03, 2024, 05:00:26 PM
That's right. The point is also it disarms their argument. Because if "anyone" can play, it exposes the lie to the idea that "everyone" must be represented.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Man at Arms on July 03, 2024, 06:09:26 PM
Anyone can play.  It's a game.  Games have rules.  Someone must run / host the game.  They get to choose what kind of game, they want to run.  Play if you want to play, the game that's being run; but you don't get to take over the game with nonsense.  You may be asked to leave, if you try to take over. 

This isn't gate keeping, it's just enforcement of the rules and gaming environment present at the table.

Anyone, not Everyone.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Insane Nerd Ramblings on July 03, 2024, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: Man at Arms on July 03, 2024, 06:09:26 PMAnyone can play.  It's a game.  Games have rules.  Someone must run / host the game.  They get to choose what kind of game, they want to run.  Play if you want to play, the game that's being run; but you don't get to take over the game with nonsense.  You may be asked to leave, if you try to take over. 

This isn't gate keeping, it's just enforcement of the rules and gaming environment present at the table.

Anyone, not Everyone.

Like anime/manga, TTRPG's filter out/gatekeep themselves by their entertainment value alone. That and you don't have to play with someone if you don't want. That's why the whole 'Gatekeep the chuds' doesn't work. Even if they wreck every single TTRPG franchise in existence, people will just create their own to suit themselves.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Mishihari on July 03, 2024, 07:03:50 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2024, 09:02:30 AMThey sure are. But regular gamers have been bad at falling for their semantic traps. My video is an attempt to show how we need to forcibly reject their semantics and replace them with our own.

One of the major lessons I drew from 1984 is that if you accept the bad guys' language, you also accept their way of thinking and their conclusions.  Reject the language.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Exploderwizard on July 03, 2024, 07:29:25 PM
I don't really care if some folks want to play games about their screwed up college lives, or being baristas in hip multicultural town. Like anything else, create a game that does the best job at that particular thing, and find like minded people to play with. What DO care about is the hijacking of established games that were never designed for such things and trying to transform them from whatever the game was designed to do into a pile of mediocre dog shit and insist that whatever game was hijacked, is supposed to be the crap that they are serving. Don't like what existing rpgs are all about? No problem, make your own and do your thing. The problem is that leftists are not happy unless they shit the bed that everyone shares. We have become too nice and civilized. I bet the tune would change after a good round of beatings.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: SHARK on July 04, 2024, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on July 03, 2024, 07:29:25 PMI bet the tune would change after a good round of beatings.

LAUGHING Oh, you *know* that's right, brother!!!!

All of these Woke pussies need to be beaten down, hard.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: jeff37923 on July 04, 2024, 03:03:34 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2024, 05:00:26 PMThat's right. The point is also it disarms their argument. Because if "anyone" can play, it exposes the lie to the idea that "everyone" must be represented.

Hate to say this, but I think that you are assuming that a woke griefer is rational enough to understand and acknowledge the distinction while they are getting off on their own self-righteousness.

It's like why people attend protests, they don't do it because a protest is effective - they attend to share in the emotional frenzy of the moment. When the woke are castigating people for wrongthink, they primarily do it for the emotional high and not from any logical frame of mind. So, countering their emotion with logic only serves to change the perceptions of the readers who are not involved directly in the back and forth between the woke and their target. That may be the end result you want. I don't know.

Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: Ratman_tf on July 04, 2024, 03:34:22 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on July 04, 2024, 03:03:34 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2024, 05:00:26 PMThat's right. The point is also it disarms their argument. Because if "anyone" can play, it exposes the lie to the idea that "everyone" must be represented.

Hate to say this, but I think that you are assuming that a woke griefer is rational enough to understand and acknowledge the distinction while they are getting off on their own self-righteousness.

Oh yeah. The wokesters don't care. They want results and word games are how they attempt to get those results. They'll abandon or ignore word games when they're not useful to them.

But the average Joe or Jane gamer are the targets of those word games. And they can be persuaded by counter-word games.
Title: Re: The RPG Hobby is For Anyone, not Everyone
Post by: orbitalair on July 05, 2024, 12:46:44 PM
Ridicule Works. 
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