Quote from: Malleustein;886291If it matters to you and your group, only pick O/R/P.C.C.s of similar power level for the campaign.  It really is that simple and much easier than any attempt to fix that aspect of the Palladium Megaversal rules system would ever be.

The catalogue of character classes isn't a mistake or an accident.  They are options.  Options to be used or ignored by your group.  There is no sensible way to bring the City Rat up to the power level of a Dragon Hatchling, and the end result would be a joke!

Quote from: James Gillen;886801But "relatively normal guy" not only doesn't have a good lifespan in RIFTS, it doesn't bring much to the table.

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Quote from: Nerzenjäger;886296I have this dream of applying OD&D's logic to the Palladium system/Rifts. Imagine adopting the combat system whole cloth, all the damage stuff, all the bonusses and shit, but completely forgoing the skill system. The class you choose can do what it assumedly can--done.
I always loved how the monsters in OD&D don't need special damage types or resistances, because the minor descriptions and genre tropes they were built on came with certain assumptions. Here's a werewolf, no shit you need a silver weapon to fight it. Here's the Fighting-Man, he knows battle stuff. Here's the Mad Scientist, he knows all about technology and science.
Granted, it would need some work to tear it all out of the Megaversal System, but I think it could be done without much harm. It also would still feed into the roleplaying balance Rifts is big on. A Glitter Boy is an awesome combatant, but try entering Chi-Town locked and loaded. While he is arguing over where to store his combat suit with the local authorities, the Vagabond is already gathering valuable information in all the shady places.

Quote from: Matt;887030OD&D logic means what exactly?

Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;887032"Here is a combat system for resolving battles. The rest is common sense, player ingenuity, and referee discretion. Now play the goddamn game and stop expecting us to hold your hand and have to put into writing that fighters can ride horses and that poison won't affect a fucking skeleton. "

Quote from: Matt;887030Except Palladium has a much better combat system that D&D. Much more exciting with its opportunities for defenders to actually defend.

Quote"Here is a combat system for resolving battles. The rest is common sense, player ingenuity, and referee discretion. Now play the goddamn game and stop expecting us to hold your hand and have to put into writing that fighters can ride horses and that poison won't affect a fucking skeleton. "

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;886296I have this dream of applying OD&D's logic to the Palladium system/Rifts. Imagine adopting the combat system whole cloth, all the damage stuff, all the bonusses and shit, but completely forgoing the skill system. The class you choose can do what it assumedly can--done.

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;886296It also would still feed into the roleplaying balance Rifts is big on. A Glitter Boy is an awesome combatant, but try entering Chi-Town locked and loaded. While he is arguing over where to store his combat suit with the local authorities, the Vagabond is already gathering valuable information in all the shady places.

Quote from: The Butcher;887128You know what? You're probably right.

Quote from: Matt;887043Extra points for making me laugh out loud. I do hate that shit in so many games with 200-entry skill lists where they feel the need to separate acrobatics, gymnastics, tumbling, break fall, and balancing into separate skills and make you cherry pick your skills to be halfway competent at what is supposed to be your profession. God forbid you overlook one...very embarrassing to have a thief who forgot to buy stealth because you thought it was the same as sneaking.