https://www.cubicle7games.com/cubicle-7-announces-the-one-ring-second-edition/
Looks like the One Ring is getting a new edition.
A new edition doesn't interest me, but this might:
QuoteBelow you can see the products currently in development. We will update these with release dates as they become available.
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Minas Tirith – The Tower of Guard: A guide to the city of Minas Tirith and its surrounding lands.
The Errantries of the King: A campaign adventure set in Gondor. Written by Gareth Ryder-Hanrahan, author of The Darkening of Mirkwood.
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I am more a fan of AiME but I am looking forward to the new adventures/location stuff.
Quote from: Aglondir;1088450A new edition doesn't interest me, but this might:
I remember the old MERP Minas Tirith book as being one of the better setting books of that product line. It'd be interesting to see how this compares.
Glad to see it's going to be compatible with the 1e books.
Quote from: RPGPundit;1089509I remember the old MERP Minas Tirith book as being one of the better setting books of that product line. It'd be interesting to see how this compares.
Probably not as good because when MERP was a thing Tolkien Enterprises and the Tolkien Estate didn't monitor the IP like a hawk as they do now.
MERP was pretty good gaming content wise, but alot of it would not be canon.
I guess the main thing to remember is that MERP is set in The Second Age, whilst Cubicle 7 Middle Earth is set in the late Third Age.
Quote from: Mankcam;1089640MERP was pretty good gaming content wise, but alot of it would not be canon.
I guess the main thing to remember is that MERP is set in The Second Age, whilst Cubicle 7 Middle Earth is set in the late Third Age.
MERP was set mid Third Age, not 2nd Age.
I am having a blast DMing The One Ring, and I'm sure to buy anything they make for it, 1st/2nd/whatever edition so long as it's strongly backwards-compatible.
Quote from: KingofElfland;1089645MERP was set mid Third Age, not 2nd Age.
Yes, of course, my mistake. Not sure how I wrote that, I meant to write that it was mid Third Age whereas Cubicle 7 Middle Earth is late Third Age, and there has been significant changes in some regions.
Thanks for calling me out on that
Quote from: Lurtch;1089610Probably not as good because when MERP was a thing Tolkien Enterprises and the Tolkien Estate didn't monitor the IP like a hawk as they do now.
All of Cublicle's supplements have outstanding. What people forget that a lot of Middle Earth is a blank slate leaving a lot of room for creativity. The biggest issue is not coming up with original ideas, but incorporating or not contradicting stuff that is canon but is only found in the Simarillion or other later writings. Which is not part of the license that Cublicle uses.
Quote from: KingofElfland;1089645MERP was set mid Third Age, not 2nd Age.
Generally, yes. But there was limited content to support Second Age gameplay, iirc.
Quote from: Alexander Kalinowski;1089688Generally, yes. But there was limited content to support Second Age gameplay, iirc.
No more than a paragraph. Usually the earlier books had extensive notes to place play in various periods of the Third Age, even contemporary with the War of the Ring or slightly after, but that tended to tighten up to the Seventeenth Century (the 1600s) mid-run. If I remember correctly, toward the end of the run of 2nd edition they had some Fourth Age material. The only 1st and 2nd Age material were the relevant histories in the major NPC books.
I like the C7 material, but I don't find it "purer" than the MERP material, despite some of the clamoring of its fans.
Quote from: estar;1089676All of Cublicle's supplements have outstanding. What people forget that a lot of Middle Earth is a blank slate leaving a lot of room for creativity. The biggest issue is not coming up with original ideas, but incorporating or not contradicting stuff that is canon but is only found in the Simarillion or other later writings. Which is not part of the license that Cublicle uses.
I love AiME. The products are great but nobody from Tolkien Enterprises was supervising ICE back then.
I'm really looking forward to the Moria book. Mike Mearls wrote a great Moria product for Decipher and I'm hoping C7 can top it.
I bought the 1st edition of tOR and actually ran it for a bit (I think wayback in 2011)
I LOVE the art and the setting information.
The books themselves are organised REALLY badly. Character gen is a nightmare. I remember having to flip back and forth through the book to get character gen done.
Combat is a clunky, messy exception based nightmare to run and again, so much messing about searching through the character book and Loremaster book. Argh!
I hated the travel mechanic too. I'd rather RP and game out the travel than just roll some dice for travel.
It's a shame really, I loved the feel of the setting and general background. The art REALLY contributed to the general LotR ambiance too.
I was tempted to get the 5e books for it, but I hated ToR so much, I decided against it.
I'm kinda scaling back tabletop RPGs and tabletop games in general for a while to focus on other matters in my life atm anyway, So unlikely I'll buy into this new edition for lots of reasons.
Quote from: danskmacabre;1089727I was tempted to get the 5e books for it, but I hated ToR so much, I decided against it.
I have the TOR 1st PDFs and I passed on the supplement because well it was basically too strange for me. But then I got Adventure In Middle Earth which worked perfectly and allowed me to run some kick ass Middle Earth sessions and campaigns. The supplements for AiME are 85% the same as their TOR counterpart with the rest AiME specific rules. Part of the trick making it work is they balanced the monsters so that they are deadlier compared to their normal 5e counterparts. Which in conjunction with the tweaks to magic, healing, rests and liberal use of exhaustion and makes it the right amount of Middle Earth grittiness.
Quote from: danskmacabre;1089727I hated the travel mechanic too. I'd rather RP and game out the travel than just roll some dice for travel.
So I got AiME and it had the journey rules. So I looked at the TOR equivalent. I felt it lacking in clarity. The AiME take was much better in my opinion. Basically the way I viewed it was you have a journey of x length. Instead of rolling per day, or hex. You roll a number of events. Then you rolled what those events are. Then you look at the map to see where those event make sense. It may be sprinkled evenly or bunch up in one section. Either way, as the referee, you get some control in order to make the journey more interesting and more importantly make sense in regards to where the player's are travelling.
I had a session that the whole adventure was an epic resulting from the players dealing journey events, botching some, eventually getting it together and were successful in making it out alive.
Thanks for the info Estar.
When I feel the urge to run a new RPG, I might well pick up the Player and Loremaster book for Aime one day. It does sound interesting.
If a Moria Supplement DOES come out, I'll be WAY more tempted. :)