With some people plonking isn't enough. These are folks who add nothing to the conversation, who are solely there to thread crap, file false complaints, and troll. They conceive a hatred against other posters, then embark on a campaign to get those posters out of the forum. I'm not talking about people you find personnally disagreable, I'm talking about people who degrade the experience for everybody.That's what you have here, a band who go around taking every opportunity they can to ruin a conversation. They have to have their own way, and damn the other guy. It's time for a purge at ENWorld, and let the gutters run red.

Well, but classic D&D really is a better game than 3.14159...

Quote from: JongWKThere's this guy I know that was (is?) absolutely convinced that AD&D 2E (yes, 2E) was the be-all-and-end-all of gaming, and couldn't avoid crapping on any D&D 3E discussion on a mail list. When he organized gaming gatherings, he only scheduled the games of his liking--understandably, this narrowed the options quite a bit. :rolleyes:

It's been a source of disappointment for me that this site seems to have it's own cadre of B/X/RC fanatics.  People like Akrasia, who doesn't hate D&D3, honest! (He just trashes it every time it comes up . . .)

I got tired of that pack on RPGnet, and I find my teeth grinding when it comes up here.

Quote from: J ArcaneIt's been a source of disappointment for me that this site seems to have it's own cadre of B/X/RC fanatics.  People like Akrasia, who doesn't hate D&D3, honest! (He just trashes it every time it comes up . . .)

I got tired of that pack on RPGnet, and I find my teeth grinding when it comes up here.

That seems to be S.O.P. at every gaming site...ever.  
As someone elsewhere once queried, i wonder if model railroad enthusiasts or quilters are as divisive and just plain goofy??

Quote from: jdrakehThe banhammer doesn't get lowered a lot at ENWorld. Their ignore list function totally removes posts made by indvidiuals on one's IL, so the banhammer isn't all that necessary. I like that IL. It stops me from being tempted to click "view post" when I forget why somebody is on my IL (mainly 'cause it's not an option). I guess one could say that their IL is impulse friendly

I actually really like how friendly the moderation is at ENWorld, at least from what little I've seen from lurking there.  They seem to cut folk a lot of slack.

I didn't know that about their IL system, but that's a great idea.

Quote from: jdrakehUnderstandably for you, me, and most of theRPGsite, perhaps, but I get the feeling that there are many hobbyists who don't understand this (i.e., that placing a load of restrictions on what you're willing to play will considerably reduce your odds of playing anything whatsoever).

I'd think this too, but so many people seem to want to play 3.5, AD&D, and original D&D that they don't seem to have any trouble.  At least that's been my experience in Knoxville, TN and Lexington, KY.

Quote from: kregmosierThat seems to be S.O.P. at every gaming site...ever.  
As someone elsewhere once queried, i wonder if model railroad enthusiasts or quilters are as divisive and just plain goofy??

Do you not remember the awesome posts we had a while back about YARN enthusiasts and Swinish behavior? For shame....

Quote from: C.W.RichesonI actually really like how friendly the moderation is at ENWorld, at least from what little I've seen from lurking there.  They seem to cut folk a lot of slack.

I didn't know that about their IL system, but that's a great idea.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of ENWorld (which is ironic, given that circa 2000 I was a foot soldier in the aforementioned goblinoid host).

Quote from: C.W.RichesonI'd think this too, but so many people seem to want to play 3.5, AD&D, and original D&D that they don't seem to have any trouble.  At least that's been my experience in Knoxville, TN and Lexington, KY.

Here it's pretty much 3.5 or nothin' (hence why I'm making 3.5 the foundation of my game collection as I rebuild it). That said, I did manage to run a C&C campaign over the Summer last year.

Quote from: J Arcane...  People like Akrasia, who doesn't hate D&D3, honest! (He just trashes it every time it comes up . . .)
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Umm ... no I don't.  :rolleyes:

Please provide links to all these threads on D&D3 here where I trash it "every time it comes up".  :confused:

Seriously.  If you're going to accuse me of wanton thread-crapping, have the decency at least to provide some evidence.

But you can't do that, can you?

Quote from: AkrasiaUmm ... no I don't.  :rolleyes:

Just so you know, I have never perceived you as being one of these folks. When somebody suggests D&D 3.5 I do see you recommend C&C as an alternative that you personally prefer, but I don't think that I've seen you actually attack D&D 3.5.

Quote from: jdrakehJust so you know, I have never perceived you as being one of these folks. When somebody suggests D&D 3.5 I do see you recommend C&C as an alternative that you personally prefer, but I don't think that I've seen you actually attack D&D 3.5.

Thanks man.  It's frustrating that some people can't distinguish between (a.) prefering game x over game y and (b.) 'trashing' game y.

Quote from: AkrasiaUmm ... no I don't.  :rolleyes:

Please provide links to all these threads on D&D3 here where I trash it "every time it comes up".  :confused:

Seriously.  If you're going to accuse me of wanton thread-crapping, have the decency at least to provide some evidence.

But you can't do that, can you?

We've argued this before, and you wouldn't be honest then, why the fuck should I expect you to be honest now?

You're a coward and a liar, and that's that.  I've no interest in travelling that road again.

Quote from: J ArcaneWe've argued this before, and you wouldn't be honest then, why the fuck should I expect you to be honest now?

You're a coward and a liar, and that's that.  I've no interest in travelling that road again.

:confused:

I was honest then.  I asked you then -- just as I'm asking you now -- for specific instances to support your criticisms of me.  But you couldn't do that then, just as you can't do it now.

So who's being dishonest?  Who's being the liar?  Not me.  If you think I'm dishonest, provide evidence.

You are the one who started the unfounded personal attacks.  Not me.

Look, I honestly have no idea how you formed this impression of me.  I'm sorry that you have this impression, but obviously I cannot do anything about your delusions.  Good luck.

Quote from: jdrakehUnderstandably for you, me, and most of theRPGsite, perhaps, but I get the feeling that there are many hobbyists who don't understand this (i.e., that placing a load of restrictions on what you're willing to play will considerably reduce your odds of playing anything whatsoever).

Amidst the sound and fury, this is an excellent point.  As I've aged, I've relaxed in my exacting demands.  My, for wont of a better term, fanaticism.

It's made me a lot happier and gotten me gaming a lot more.

I think a lot of people fall prey to that sort of exclusionary trap.  They're after a certain very specific experience and if they don't get it, it's not worth it.

This is one reason I've shied away from the whole "no gaming is better than bad gaming" propaganda wagon.  Because, y'know what?  Maybe bad gaming isn't that bad, most of the time.

When your goals are not so lofty (say, getting together with your friends, tossing dice, and having adventures) as your desires (playing through a dramatic adventure with the intensity of your favorite book and the excitement of your favorite action movie!), you tend to have a lot more fun.

I'm not saying you should set your sights so low that you're playing games with the local basement ape and you're absolutely miserable.  But you shouldn't set them so high that you can't reasonably have fun in an "average" game, either.

Sorry if that's rambling and not very concise.