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Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: RPGPundit on October 15, 2007, 02:18:57 AM
The Chargen system for the new traveller will apparently include the possibility of death during chargen, like classic Traveller did.

I'm not sure yet if this is a good idea or crazy in this day and age, but I must admit I'm utterly surprised by this, I would never have thought mongoose would have done such a thing.

RPGPundit
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Settembrini on October 15, 2007, 02:39:10 AM
I never understood the problems with it.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Caesar Slaad on October 15, 2007, 07:37:45 AM
I see the hate for it as a bit over the top, but at the same time, I don't exactly see a reason to bring it back.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Zachary The First on October 15, 2007, 08:08:13 AM
The burgeoning gorgnard in me cheers, but honestly, I'd say there's not really a place for it.  T20 capped it at injuries and some disabilities, I think, which is fine for me.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: John Morrow on October 15, 2007, 08:09:21 AM
Quote from: RPGPunditThe Chargen system for the new traveller will apparently include the possibility of death during chargen, like classic Traveller did.

I think they should handle it the way people handled it in the old days.  A failed survival roll could mean either death or injury and a half-term.  The reason for the survival roll (as well as the reenlistment roll) was to prevent players from just going straight to the 56 year-old grizzled veteran with lots of skills.  Going another term in a high-risk career could mean that you'd actually lose the character you already had.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: beeber on October 15, 2007, 08:15:39 AM
Quote from: RPGPunditThe Chargen system for the new traveller will apparently include the possibility of death during chargen, like classic Traveller did.

I'm not sure yet if this is a good idea or crazy in this day and age, but I must admit I'm utterly surprised by this, I would never have thought mongoose would have done such a thing.

we rarely used the death result but i'm glad it's included anyway.

link to this info, pundit?
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Mytholder on October 15, 2007, 08:21:37 AM
The Planet Mongoose blog on character generation. (http://blog.mongoosepublishing.co.uk/index.php?blog=2&title=traveller_character_generation&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Caesar Slaad on October 15, 2007, 08:47:09 AM
Okay... Gareth had a post here... where'd it go?
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: beeber on October 15, 2007, 08:58:29 AM
zhos stole it?

i noticed posts appearing on the main list or in new posts, but they weren't there when i came here :confused:
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Werekoala on October 15, 2007, 11:33:46 AM
Huzzah!
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: jrients on October 15, 2007, 11:38:32 AM
Mytholder got picked up as a spambot by the board software.  All should be a-okay now.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Pierce Inverarity on October 15, 2007, 12:28:08 PM
Well... if the chargen rules are any guide, the Mongoose approach is a nod in several directions at once. Sounds as if it works fine for chargen--we'll see what happens with the skill system and combat.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Koltar on October 15, 2007, 02:12:45 PM
I used to play and run classic TRAVELLER as a teenager , my friends & I always assumed that the character you generated just after a previous one that died in character creation was somehow related.


- Ed C.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Settembrini on October 15, 2007, 02:24:31 PM
I hereby postulate, that anybody who has problems with death at character generation, is a proto story-whore.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Zachary The First on October 15, 2007, 02:37:02 PM
Quote from: SettembriniI hereby postulate, that anybody who has problems with death at character generation, is a proto story-whore.

What if we don't mind it, but don't really see a need for it, either?
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Pierce Inverarity on October 15, 2007, 02:40:39 PM
Slippery slope, Zach, slippery slope...
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: rcsample on October 15, 2007, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: Zachary The FirstWhat if we don't mind it, but don't really see a need for it, either?

If you believe this, the terrorists have already won!

Actually, I feel the same as you regarding this....I doubt I'd use it, but if I can work around it...no biggie...
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Balbinus on October 15, 2007, 07:19:20 PM
The point of the death rule was in part to make it a gamble to proceed in chargen further in the hope of getting a better character.

As such it made chargen itself a game, and I rather like it as a rule.

So I'm glad they're keeping it, we use it in our Classic Traveller game and if I buy this we'll likely use it in this.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: Tyberious Funk on October 16, 2007, 09:16:44 PM
I never played Classic Traveller, but I used to hear stories about how characters died in chargen and used to think "Wow... tough game!"

Once I actually read the rules, I realised what a non-issue the whole thing really is.  So you can die in chargen... big deal?  It's not like you are forced to play the game using the dead character.  "Oh, sorry Bob.  Your character died.... I guess it's going to be a quiet campaign for you! *snicker*"  Take a few extra minutes and start rolling another one!
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: dar on October 17, 2007, 08:13:29 AM
Quote from: Tyberious Funklike you are forced to play the game using the dead character.

WTF!

Some settings would be awesome playing a dead character.
Title: The New Traveller: Chargen
Post by: flyingmice on October 17, 2007, 10:10:28 AM
Quote from: darWTF!

Some settings would be awesome playing a dead character.

Some settings you DO play a dead character.

-clash