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"The monsters eat FUCK YOU, that's what they eat."

Started by Gronan of Simmerya, February 13, 2016, 06:59:55 PM

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Spinachcat

There is ONLY one way to play RPGs!

With dice! :)


Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;879159How the fuck did a dumb story about me flipping off Phil Barker as a college sophomore turn into an argument over "ONE TRUE WAY TO PLAY?"

How? You posted it online! That's the original sin right there! :)

I liked the story. I was always a fan of Judges Guild's Rat on a Stick (even made them several times too!). IIRC, Wizardry 4 had a restaurant in the dungeon so the idea was certainly in the mindspace for early RPGers.

On the subject of what monsters' eat, please tell us how much Dave Arneson and Gary Gygax concerned themselves with ecology in their games?

I've read what Gary said in the 1e DMG, but how did his thoughts on ecology play out at the table?

Bren

Quote from: Spinachcat;879180There is ONLY one way to play RPGs!

With dice! :)
Well there is Amber. I understand that some people around here claim that is an RPG. ;)
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AsenRG

Quote from: Bren;879183Well there is Amber. I understand that some people around here claim that is an RPG. ;)

You sure it's not a dirty story game:p?
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Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: Bren;879169Hey man. Some of us cannot quote verbatim every line of every book we read back in high school. I read Bored of the Rings over 40 years ago. I'm sure I've also forgotten most of the people in my homeroom and a few Monty Python quotes in the intervening decades. :)

Well, that certainly isn't MY problem.

:D
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There was an old rogue-like called Moria where the only food you could buy was from The Comandant's Deep Fried Lizard parts and came in red and white striped buckets.

I like worked out ecologies and lower key fantasy elements in my games.  I mean, I get that other people like gonzo but I can't ever separate gonzo from silly.  Okay, I can't separate grimdark from silly either and I always run Warhammer rpgs as pure slapstick.  But I like little nods like raised bed gardens in high mountain meadows that provide food stuffs for dwarven realms or orc slave farms in the marshes based on the Aztec ones where they pile up the dirt right on top of the swamp and plant their crops.

And orc raiders always carry off the sheep and cattle that they don't eat while besieging the village or the farm.

I don't run every game that way.  The D&D I run on Saturdays for the teenagers is pure improve with a healthy dose of silly.  But even then I try to put in food and water supplies.  And bread stone of course.
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crkrueger

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Quote from: Armchair Gamer;879142I've more or less accepted it and decided to leave the game to the OSR and other various Gygax-cultists. :)

Aw, how sweet, another drive-by against the Gygax-cultists in your head.

Kinda like here:
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;876477Champions may be a bit too new-school and storygamey for most of the crowd here ;)
Where you can't even announce a new game without letting everyone know how much you don't like this place.

And yet you're here. Again. And Again. And Again. While always letting us know you'd apparently rather not be.

{Insert Catholic Self-Loathing and Masochist Joke Here}

Oh wait, forgot the ;)
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

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Kyle Aaron

Quote from: AsenRG;879133Sorry to break it for you, but they're exactly as right as you are:).
No. They are objectively wrong. I make an argument from my authority: mine.

Quote from: BrenWell there is Amber. I understand that some people around here claim that is an RPG.
They are wrong, too. But everyone has to fully indulge their pretentious thespy deviancies from time to time, to avoid having them spread into their true gaming experience.

Gaming is serious fucking business. This is why some of you cannot bear mockery or get humour. Of course, that's mostly because you're American, but...
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crkrueger

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;879162"Frito stared thoughtfully into the sediment of fish hooks and the frothy head of ground glass on his Orca-Cola."

I didn't know which one to go with.  The head I assumed would be part of the Cola, so the fish hooks are probably the option.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

crkrueger

Quote from: AsenRG;879133Sorry to break it for you, but they're exactly as right as you are:). As long as they're doing that on their tables, and not on yours, they can have all the setting detail in the world.
Of course, if you ever ended on one such table, you wouldn't fit the group and would have to be ditched, and vice versa with those people and your table;).

Quote from: Christopher Brady;879140I was hoping he was being facetious.

Brady and AsenRG, you guys might not know, but Kyle is always facetious about gaming.  Or does that mean he can't be facetious because he doesn't think gaming is serious enough to be facetious about.  Whichever.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Bren

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;879229This is why some of you cannot bear mockery or get humour. Of course, that's mostly because you're American, but...
Well sure. As Americans we do have a hard time with mockery and humor. We are serious people who are up to the serious business of saving the world from itself and ensuring that everyone on the globe has access to McDonalds, Disney princesses, Hollywood movies, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. Now if we still lived back in the old country with all it's quaint and silly customs or if we were from upside down land where you folks have so much more practice at being mocked than we would undoubtedly get more of this strange thing you call "humour."
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JasperAK

Quote from: Spinachcat;879180There is ONLY one way to play RPGs!

With dice! :)


http://geekandsundry.com/tabletop-dread-part-1/ Hehehehe

If this didn't show me everything I needed to know about storygames...

crkrueger

Quote from: JasperAK;879237http://geekandsundry.com/tabletop-dread-part-1/ Hehehehe

If this didn't show me everything I needed to know about storygames...

It's like pretty much every storytelling game ever...
  • Ridiculous amount of fun as a party or convention one-shot.
  • Absolutely useless for anything you want a Role-Playing Game for.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

JasperAK

Quote from: CRKrueger;879242It's like pretty much every storytelling game ever...
  • Ridiculous amount of fun as a party or convention one-shot.
  • Absolutely useless for anything you want a Role-Playing Game for.

And I saw Wil's post for Fiasco as well. You are absolutely right. Great fun but I'm not sure if 'game' is appropriate. Talk about 'Wil-may-I'...

AsenRG

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;879229No. They are objectively wrong. I make an argument from my authority: mine.
You have exactly zero authority=>your argument is unfounded=>your argument is irrelevant.

Quote from: CRKrueger;879232Brady and AsenRG, you guys might not know, but Kyle is always facetious about gaming.  Or does that mean he can't be facetious because he doesn't think gaming is serious enough to be facetious about.  Whichever.
I wasn't keeping tabs on him, so no, I didn't know. Thanks for the warning, though it seems quite clear from his latest post:)!
Of course, I can reply in tone by being just as facetious. It would work until I get bored;). Admittedly, that point is quickly approaching, because his facetiousness fails to entertain, and facetious and boring is just a total communication botch.
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jeff37923

Quote from: JasperAK;879237http://geekandsundry.com/tabletop-dread-part-1/ Hehehehe

If this didn't show me everything I needed to know about storygames...

"For much of the 40 years of RPG history, the only game you could play was D&D."

Fuck you, you know-nothing hack! This schlub is not knowledgeable enough to talk about RPGs.
"Meh."