Quote from: AsenRG;879999But without proportion, your measure would suffer, and that means you'd be bound to suffer often;)!

(Kudos to anyone but Gronan who guesses what that means, I'm pretty sure he will, despite me trying to make it non-obvious).

It would help to know the author. But...

It sounds like a witticism that equivocates on different meanings of proportion and measure. It seems to me to have an 18th century tone, but that's just a hunch.,

In Gronan's original statement "sense of proportion" means keeping things in perspective and is not related to mathematical proportions or strict comparisons.

In the witticism "proportion" is used in the mathematical sense of comparing to things e.g. lengths or weights.

Measure is then used to refer to measures in a mercantile sense e.g. a merchant measuring a length of cloth or a weight of grain. So without the ability to compare lengths or weights the ability to measure would be difficult or impossible so you ability to measure would suffer.

"bound to suffer often" seems to mean that if you can't measure accurately you are going to have problems in life e.g. going to the store to buy a gallon (4 liters) of milk or a pound (.5 kilos) of meat or cheese can't occur so both the merchant and the customer will suffer.

The last phrase may also be using "measure" not in the sense of measuring but in the sense of a fixed amount of a food commodity, .e.g. "a measure of grain" which was a period way of talking about standard amounts of foodstuffs.

At least that's how I read it.

Quote from: AsenRG;879999Actually, MAR Barker is in the OP - he's hardly irrelevant, because without him, this thread wouldn't exist:).

But who he is pretty much is (and as a corollary, what or whether Chainsaw thinks of Barker) isn't. He's just an observer to Gronan's dungeon who pointed out that it didn't explain what the inhabitants ate.

Standard amounts of foodstuffs... Such as beer!

Well, that joke fell flat, sir. Tough crowd in here, tonight; maybe you should have my cousin do his juggling act for a bit to loosen them up.

(And don't forget to tell them to try the veal; the cook has a lot of it in stock, and we're running a special. Just a hint, there.)

And we'll be here all week, folks! Enjoy the show!

http://www.fkb.com/

Don't forget to tip your servers, those kids work hard!

Quote from: chirine ba kal;880040Well, that joke fell flat, sir. Tough crowd in here, tonight; maybe you should have my cousin do his juggling act for a bit to loosen them up.

(And don't forget to tell them to try the veal; the cook has a lot of it in stock, and we're running a special. Just a hint, there.)

And we'll be here all week, folks! Enjoy the show!

http://www.fkb.com/

What is this, an audience or a jury?  Take theRPGsite -- please!

Thank you Gronan

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;879997Hush, you and your "having a sense of proportion".

He hasn't seen your unending "You Youngsters Know Nothing!" lawncrapper attitude for years.

Quote from: Bren;880017It would help to know the author. But...

It sounds like a witticism that equivocates on different meanings of proportion and measure. It seems to me to have an 18th century tone, but that's just a hunch.,

In Gronan's original statement "sense of proportion" means keeping things in perspective and is not related to mathematical proportions or strict comparisons.

In the witticism "proportion" is used in the mathematical sense of comparing to things e.g. lengths or weights.

Measure is then used to refer to measures in a mercantile sense e.g. a merchant measuring a length of cloth or a weight of grain. So without the ability to compare lengths or weights the ability to measure would be difficult or impossible so you ability to measure would suffer.

"bound to suffer often" seems to mean that if you can't measure accurately you are going to have problems in life e.g. going to the store to buy a gallon (4 liters) of milk or a pound (.5 kilos) of meat or cheese can't occur so both the merchant and the customer will suffer.

The last phrase may also be using "measure" not in the sense of measuring but in the sense of a fixed amount of a food commodity, .e.g. "a measure of grain" which was a period way of talking about standard amounts of foodstuffs.

At least that's how I read it.

And here we have the other half of the Gronan-Bren bromance with his often repeated call of, "I have a brain too! I am so smart!"

Quote from: AsenRG;879823Nope. If Phil Barker asks, you're going to answer!
And you get a penalty box for thinking yourself above him.

Enough sucking up for one thread. :rolleyes: A very reasonable answer would be, "How does your character plan to find out what the monsters eat?", and I would think little of someone's trashing a game with that sort of attitude.

Quote from: jeff37923;880070

Which brings us to jeff's theme song.

Quote from: jeff37923;880070And here we have the other half of the Gronan-Bren bromance with his often repeated call of, "I have a brain too! I am so smart!"

Better than you and your incessant "I'm a 5 year old yelling PEENER! at the dinner table when Daddy has his boss over for dinner" routine.

Quote from: Bren;880096Which brings us to jeff's theme song.

Just put the sap on your IL so I don't have to read his drivel any more.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;880111Just put the sap on your IL so I don't have to read his drivel any more.

Fixed that for you. You owe me a beer.

Quote from: Bren;880113Fixed that for you. You owe me a beer.

Worth it.