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The Michelle Chronicles: Dysfunctional Gaming Exemplified

Started by Gabriel2, September 22, 2008, 12:10:03 AM

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docbosh

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Wow... The things you can discover when you accidently go looking.

I am PC Toreador from the famous oft debated Michelle Chronicles.

Though DGG and I have parted ways as friends IRL, I can say as some one who was there that yes what was written was true, to a point. I would say that Michelle never really came off that "dumb" in game, there were embellishments in DGG`s literary styling. Nor was DGG a real dick when playing, he was genuinely entertaining as ST and we all enjoyed playing with him. I am not a saint myself, I did "tantrum" and both got kicked out of games, as well as leaving on my own accord. The disfunction was somewhat real, we had to, on occasion, take long breaks from gaming to let levelheadedness return.

The only thing, and why I`m writing in a dead thread, is reading something here made me see one of the things that went wrong with our IRL friendship. I too decided to quit playing the Vampires game I was playing with DGG, a completely different group that was formed at my request a few years after the group that Michelle was in. I quit because we had a some what irregular schedule, and even though I kept clearing my social calendar to be able to play, the game was often cancelled at the last minute, making me lose out on other things I could have done. I was tired of it and decided to stop playing. That is in all gods honest truth. I didn't even feel the need to play one last time, it was another player who asked if I would just for the "closure", and another player wanted me to keep my "options" open. DGG it seems thought I was playing the drama card in order for him to "chase" me to stay, as Michelle had done.

It's rather a shame that things went went sour. I also got in trouble from him for buzzing his livejournal accounts, and became persona non grata, precisely becauce he felt my IRL relationship was spilling over into his LJ posts. I became "The one who must not be named." I was threatened by a foreign friend of DGGs as apparently he came to Montreal often and was prepared to come kick my ass.

I thought we were beginning to patch things up at one point, staying away from Vampire and sticking to some card games. Things went from bad to worse, my wife put the final nail in the coffin with a social faux pas, e-mailing some one who she thought was a recent ex girlfriend of DGG's to commiserate (something truly out of character for my wife to do), only it wasn't the ex, but a friend of his, who thusly sent my wife's e-mail to DGG. Didn't go well. While I didn't agree with what my wife did, she's my wife and I stood by her.

Now DGG and I only merely grunt at one another if we happen to be at the home of mutual friends as we do usually at New Years or other social events.

Quite sad really.

As for social RP gaming, well I have to say I love Kobold's ate my Baby (All hail King Torg!).

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Wow.

 Necromanmcing a thread to go over the drama llamas.

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Quote from: Age of Fable;250263So I think it was done by the rules as written, but there's a certain air of "gotcha!" about it.

I'm not sure a BP of 3 by itself calls for a Self-Control roll upon finding a torpid vamp. But then I don't have V:tM here with me.

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IvoLuijendijk

Wow. What a find, this thread...
I'm amazed to see that the CoM still garners such discussion after so many years!

I remember Michelle from when DGG posted the CoM in White Wolf's VtM forum and I distinctly remember the fun I had reading those stories.
Yes, mostly at Michelle's expense, I admit. I also remember being part of forumites there that kept pressing Marc to post another episode. And another... etc, etc... I just thought they were too funny. Maybe because I was relatively new to RP'ing myself back and everyone in my group had their share of... 'questionable in-game actions'. Dunno.
Actually, like so many others, I made a copy of the whole thing and was recently triggered to open that file once again and re-read some of it. The trigger was someone sticking his tongue out when rolling some dice. But that's beside the point. Funny how the mind works, eh?

Point is, the CoM happened a long time ago and so I started to wonder: What happened to those involved? It's sort of like stumbling upon the roster for the 1999-2000 Indiana Pacers and starting a search for what
Rick Smits is upto these days. You probably know the feeling.

So I did a search for 'DGG Chronicles of Michelle'. That brought me here and dropped my jaw when I sarted reading... I'm not going to comment to the actual discussions or voice an opion at all (dead horse, necromancing, etc.), but even though all this happened back in 2008/july 2011, I still want to thank DGG and 'PC Toreador/docbosh' for posting here and offering us their '20/20 vision hindsight'.


But Marc, can you please scratch an itch that's been plaguing me for years?

You say Michelle eventually read the CoM. How did she respond to your writings? I think I remember you stating on the WW forum that she was pretty pissed, but I'm not sure. I do remember feeling sorry for her at some point and feeling somewhat uneasy about saving a copy of the CoM. (No not sorry enough to delete it, I know).
She and 'Solanna' are still friends you say, so I suppose that she's not too heart-broken about it? Do you know if she's still RP'ing? And are you still GM'ing?

And have you ever heard from PC Gangrel again?

Cheers,
Ivo


Hazzurath

Quote from: DGG;472212Ivo,
I sent you a PM.

As a person who also enjoyed reading the CoM way back when on the WW Forums, I too would like my itch scratched.

Tahmoh

Im sure a fair few of us would be interested in what people in the CoM are upto these days so maybe instead of sending im's DGG and anyone else who knows of them could post updates in this thread...i understand if thats not possible though what with the bad time dgg felt he got way back when on this board(which tbh was sorta expected considering the CoM's content paints a pretty bad picture).


Did the clown sodomy thing ever get resolved? or is Aos stil researching that subject? :)

DGG

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;472383Im sure a fair few of us would be interested in what people in the CoM are upto these days so maybe instead of sending im's DGG and anyone else who knows of them could post updates in this thread...i understand if thats not possible though what with the bad time dgg felt he got way back when on this board(which tbh was sorta expected considering the CoM's content paints a pretty bad picture).

Well rather than send PM's to everyone who is interested in knowing, why don't I just simply state that I do not speak to any of the players from my former gaming days and therefore cannot speak for them. The game folded over 10 years ago, I moved away, bought a house where my GF and I are raising our family.

Even while I am writing this, my loving GF bought me a cup of coffee and my 2 yr-old son is watching Monster's Inc for 15th time. I continue to work as a tech writer in the rail industry. Business is booming. I recently was responsible for ensuring the company receive an $18M milestone payment and received a letter of comendation from the president of the company. Even more fortunate, my GF just recently gave birth to my daughter. So I now have a full set! Apart from being a father, I am also a step father (My GF has a son from a previous relationship).

As for RPGs I play DnD 4ed regularly with a completely new group who have little to no connection or knowledge of the events of the CoM (although sometimes we would share amusing annecdotes from our former gaming days). We play every Mondays in the basement in my house where I spent a lot of agonizing hours renovating it. I got fully dedicated RPG playing area right next to a fully stocked RPG library, Wi-Fi connection, and a fully functioning wet-bar.

Living the dream!

That's about all I can say for myself.

Windjammer

Awesome. I've come across this thread just today, and read it in its entirety (but not the one linked to in the OP). I was laughing so hard at Aos' "shining beacon of intellectual hope" that I had tears coming down my cheeks; reminded me why he's in many ways my favourite poster around here.

But even that gets beaten by this happy online reunion, topped off by a Disney'esque ending for our main protagonist - got the girl, children there, sealed the multi million deal. If that doesn't beat the Harry Potter movie franchise, I don't know what does.

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Quote from: Gabriel2;250205I'm not even sure what diablerizing is, but I'm guessing it means the destruction of the target.  Assuming that's right, this is the height of dickish GMing.
It is, since you consume blood and soul of the vampire. You basically suck it dry to increase the power of your own blood. Think of it as the big-bad-evil quickening, vampire-style.

Now, the GM is actually being very dickish indeed, and off the rails rules wise, btw.

Benoist

Aos's clown raping thing is the stuff of legend!

I miss him. Be back soon, bro!!!

IvoLuijendijk

Quote from: DGG;472390Living the dream!

That's about all I can say for myself.

Sounds like a good life. Good for you mate.

Cheers
Ivo