Y'all are missing the real point.

The real hoax is the title of the thread. Think about Pundit. Think about the title. Think about Maid. Come on...almost...you're just about there....

i have the pdf(they send out free copies to a buncha people who expressed an interest in the game) and tbh its not that perverted at all.  infact they actually dropped a shitload of perverted and racist stuff from the translation that they have put up as a separate pdf file on the googlegroups page, in that file is stuff that would have proved the perverted opinion and then some(a ton of interestingly named devices that are basically dildo's and a kkk mask are a few of the items dropped from the equipment section for instance) as for the game itself i found it to be pretty easy to read through and the tables are bloody fun to mine for ideas even if u dont play the game.

so as seanchai suggested some people are makin a mountain of a molehill here.

im not a 100% sure they shouldnt have maybe gone for something different first though like lodoss or the shin megami tensei rpg.

Quote from: Fritzs;255064RPGPundit: Before asking, think about it for a while... why would forgers attempt to fake transaltion efford, especially when nearly anyone can check if the original japanese version really exist or not. Wouldn't that be quite stupid...?

There have been several hoaxes in the history of RPGs.  The one I can think of off the top of my head is that "old school" game that was supposedly the reprint of a super obscure 70s RPG, but was in fact an invention of the publisher.

Note, however, that I do NOT believe that it is a hoax now. It clearly does exist, it has been confirmed independently for me.  That said, it just means that the Forgers searched diligently and picked the single most fucked up perverted Japanese RPG and decided to publish that, in order to shout "See?? this is what EVERYONE plays in Japan! Over there they're STORYGAMERS like us, and don't spend their time playing stupid D&D! They play pseudo-"sophisticated" games with perverted morality, like we do!"

Bully for them.

I guess in a way, its still a hoax. Because they're trying to push Maid as a "mainstream" Japanese RPG, when in fact its pretty evidently not. Most Japanese gamers are playing Lodoss-esque campaigns, and not pretending to be sex-slave-maids.

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They definitely should have done something more traditional for pete's sake. Al Shard for starters.

Quote from: Hobo;255139Desire to play this game definitionally makes you a sick fuck, so you're outta luck there.  

Please don't group me with the lawncrappers.

Quote from: RPGPundit;255178There have been several hoaxes in the history of RPGs.  The one I can think of off the top of my head is that "old school" game that was supposedly the reprint of a super obscure 70s RPG, but was in fact an invention of the publisher.

That one, Encounter Critical by S. John Ross. wasn't a hoax, Pundit, any more that Professor Tolkien was trying to fool people into thinking he'd actually translated the Red Book of Westmarch.

That said, there have been plenty of hoaxes in RPG-land for sure!

-clash

RPGPundit: Once again, you failed to do your research before posting. If the forgers wanted to pick the sickest japanese RPG possible, they would pick Zettai Reido. And Tenra Basho Zero was allready being translated before they picked Maid RPG.

Quote from: flyingmice;255186That one, Encounter Critical by S. John Ross. wasn't a hoax, Pundit, any more that Professor Tolkien was trying to fool people into thinking he'd actually translated the Red Book of Westmarch.

That said, there have been plenty of hoaxes in RPG-land for sure!

-clash

I beg to differ. The game was out for months before Ross admitted that it wasn't real, though certainly anyone who gave it a serious read could have suspected that it was just not quite right as a historical document.  Or maybe not, maybe only someone who is used to looking at historical documents.. I don't know. I remember reading it and thinking "this can't be real"... but I also remember that at the time, it was being touted as real.

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I don't think anyone is suggesting that this game is the most popular RPG in Japan or that it is representative of mainstream Japanese gaming.  I never heard that.  I just heard that it was a Japanese game translated into English, which is true.

You are starting to run out of things to rage at RPGPundit and it is showing here.  This effort is particularly lax and flabby.

Quote from: Fritzs;255192RPGPundit: Once again, you failed to do your research before posting. If the forgers wanted to pick the sickest japanese RPG possible, they would pick Zettai Reido.

Ah yes, but the "Maid" RPG had the benefit of "my life with master"-esque mechanics and more pretentiousness, it wasn't explicitly just filth.  It was implicit filth with a veneer of sophisticated story-creation, much like so many of the storygamers' favorite games.

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I would expect storygamers who chose to translate an rpg, to translate a storygame.  That's hardly a surprise surely.

The game sounds like nothing I'm interested in playing, the broom example goes way past my personal comfort zone and deeply into creepy ass shit for me, but actually I wouldn't have been interested anyway given the subject matter so it's not like it's a lost sale.

I struggle to achieve outrage though, Walker in post 37 comes close to my view on the matter in general.

Quote from: One Horse Town;255143Besides which, what is your opinion about this sort of stuff?

I think the genre is kind of dumb. It's also a cartoon. You can find fetishism all over American comic books. I think that to be outraged at such a thing is either naive or masking something else, possibly the outragee's own fetishes.

Quote from: droog;255237I think the genre is kind of dumb. It's also a cartoon. You can find fetishism all over American comic books. I think that to be outraged at such a thing is either naive or masking something else, possibly the outragee's own fetishes.

Nice troll!

Quote from: One Horse Town;255238Nice troll!

I don't see it. You asked for my opinion and I gave it to you.

Quote from: droog;255239I don't see it. You asked for my opinion and I gave it to you.

OK. My apologies. I understand your 'repression' comment.

Personally, as someone who has written some stuff that has been released commercially, i have a hard time understanding how some stuff released as a 'game' can really be enjoyed as such. YMMV and so on.