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The least woke major RPG publishers

Started by Lurtch, November 18, 2018, 10:21:37 AM

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Jason Coplen

#60
July 13, 2020, 03:15:15 PM
Quote from: 1989;1139490Even Dungeon Crawl Classics is drinking the Woke Kool-Aid with #Black Lives Matter propaganda.

https://goodman-games.com/blog/2020/06/03/imagine-better-worlds/

Shame on you white folk for not caring about Black Lives.

What a sad time this is.

Which company can you count on to take your money and not bend the knee to the increasing demands of Wokeness?

Very sad times.
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Warder

#61
July 13, 2020, 03:17:16 PM Last Edit: July 13, 2020, 03:19:41 PM by Warder
In the first picture a deranged female supervillain is fighting a male superhero. Seems pretty standart stuff.

In the second somebody released a laughing gas spell or a trap or the dragon farted helium making everybody high pitched and hilarious. They are having a gay old time.

Also, im a fan of Iain Banks but dont idolise him. Are you saying he had sjw views or some such thing?
I only know of him as sci fi writer who was rather neat.

S'mon

#63
July 13, 2020, 05:39:55 PM
Quote from: Aglondir;1139534What was the oucome of this?

No idea, in fact until re-reading that I'd forgotten the SJW swarm attack on Frog God was aimed at Bill Webb for drunkenly attempting to flirt with a (normal person) Paizo staffer.
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1989

#64
July 14, 2020, 01:57:25 PM Last Edit: July 14, 2020, 02:04:26 PM by 1989
Quote from: S'mon;1139565No idea, in fact until re-reading that I'd forgotten the SJW swarm attack on Frog God was aimed at Bill Webb for drunkenly attempting to flirt with a (normal person) Paizo staffer.

I'm quite interested in knowing how this panned out. What exactly led to the disappearance of the version with this cover?

I also did not believe at all that no virtue signalling was involved. These men (even older than me) are wiser than that. They are not that dumb. I smell male feminists. Sad.

I was also disappointed that Matt said it was "metal". What the hell? That is not metal. It's gender-dysmorphic feminist subversion.

And does anyone know for sure: did they change the pronouns?

I read that they changed the pronouns in that edition. Anybody confirm? Seems like almost nobody got a copy of this version.

YnasMidgard

#65
July 14, 2020, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: 1989;1139765I read that they changed the pronouns in that edition. Anybody confirm? Seems like almost nobody got a copy of this version.
The text seems to be taken verbatim from the 2nd printing, which uses a handful of "his or her", but it mostly avoids singular pronouns by either using plural nouns and agreeing pronouns (Fighters blah blah and their blah blah) or singular nouns ("when a character is hit, the amount of damage is deducted from hit points").
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1989

#66
July 15, 2020, 03:09:24 PM
Quote from: YnasMidgard;1139860The text seems to be taken verbatim from the 2nd printing, which uses a handful of "his or her", but it mostly avoids singular pronouns by either using plural nouns and agreeing pronouns (Fighters blah blah and their blah blah) or singular nouns ("when a character is hit, the amount of damage is deducted from hit points").

Okay, that's good to know. Thanks.

I was actually doing some "research" recently on RPGs and pronouns: which use he, which use she, which use he or she, which use a mix of he and she, etc. The results were ... not quite what I expected ...

trechriron

#67
July 15, 2020, 05:40:28 PM
Quote from: Omega;1065187Thought Hero was still chugging along slowly but surely? ...?

There is a Hall of Champions content creator program now at DTRPG for HERO. You can publish for any version. A few new titles have been released under the program.

We (the fans) also have a nice little (unofficial) Discord server chugging along...
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Omega

#68
July 15, 2020, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: Snark Knight;1139471FFG never seemed especially woke when they were still producing RPGs. Nothing of theirs I ever read made me raise an eyebrow and they still seem to be publishing them so I guess that counts?

FFG is getting worse and worse. Their new Arkham Horror game has in the core a Black Marries Lesbian Pedophile as a PC, and one of the expansions has a "misgendered" PC. Theres likely more of this. But I stopped buying FFG stuff some time ago due to their other bad behavior. FFG sure isnt the same little comic book and burgeoning Game company I met at the very very start all those years ago.

1989

#69
July 15, 2020, 06:29:30 PM
Quote from: Omega;1140049FFG is getting worse and worse. Their new Arkham Horror game has in the core a Black Marries Lesbian Pedophile as a PC, and one of the expansions has a "misgendered" PC. Theres likely more of this. But I stopped buying FFG stuff some time ago due to their other bad behavior. FFG sure isnt the same little comic book and burgeoning Game company I met at the very very start all those years ago.

Good grief. Thats sounds awful.

I remember FFG from the 3e d20 era -- I had a few of their books.

Mr_X

#70
July 15, 2020, 10:38:54 PM
I'd love to see a big ol' list.

Different categories: anti-woke, neutral, kowtowing, and SJW fanatic.

'cause there's a hell of a big difference between not bending the knee (yet) and actively fighting back.

1989

#71
July 16, 2020, 12:10:58 AM Last Edit: July 16, 2020, 12:18:10 AM by 1989
Quote from: Mr_X;1140099I'd love to see a big ol' list.

Different categories: anti-woke, neutral, kowtowing, and SJW fanatic.

'cause there's a hell of a big difference between not bending the knee (yet) and actively fighting back.


I'll take a stab at a start, though my industry knowledge is miniscule compared to that of many people here:

SJW FANATIC

WotC (D&D)
Paizo (Pathfinder)
Green Ronin (Blue Rose)
Modiphius (Vampire: the Masquerade 5e)

BEND THE KNEE

Goodman Games (Dungeon Crawl Classics) #BLM
Frog God Games (Swords and Wizardry 3rd printing)

NEUTRAL

Palladium Books (Rifts, etc.)
Basic Fantasy RPG
Whitebox Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game
Immersive Ink (Delving Deeper)
OSRIC (AD&D 1e retroclone)
For Gold and Glory (AD&D 2e retroclone)

ANTI-WOKE

Myfarog (not sure as I haven't actually read it)

kidkaos2

#72
July 16, 2020, 02:08:55 AM
Quote from: 1989;1139997Okay, that's good to know. Thanks.

I was actually doing some "research" recently on RPGs and pronouns: which use he, which use she, which use he or she, which use a mix of he and she, etc. The results were ... not quite what I expected ...

The use of female pronouns in rulebooks is something I find bizarre.  The fact is that most gamers are male.  If you think using male pronouns will alienate the female audience, then by using female pronouns you're just alienating the male audience instead, which is a larger audience.  Unless you think that using female pronouns doesn't marginalize male gamers.  If you think that, then you're saying that men are stronger than women and thus being sexist.  No matter which way you slice it, I don't understand how using exclusively female pronouns in rulebooks accomplishes anything.

trechriron

#73
July 16, 2020, 03:20:47 AM
Quote from: kidkaos2;1140127...I don't understand how using exclusively female pronouns in rulebooks accomplishes anything.

Its a rebellion against the establishment. Why should 'he' get all the fun? Also, I like the pronoun 'they', it seems more neutral to me and therefor the most inclusive.
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S'mon

#74
July 16, 2020, 05:00:39 AM
Quote from: 1989;1140117I'll take a stab at a start, though my industry knowledge is miniscule compared to that of many people here:

SJW FANATIC

WotC (D&D)
Paizo (Pathfinder)
Green Ronin (Blue Rose)
Modiphius (Vampire: the Masquerade 5e)

BEND THE KNEE

Goodman Games (Dungeon Crawl Classics) #BLM
Frog God Games (Swords and Wizardry 3rd printing)

NEUTRAL

Palladium Books (Rifts, etc.)
Basic Fantasy RPG
Whitebox Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game
Immersive Ink (Delving Deeper)
OSRIC (AD&D 1e retroclone)
For Gold and Glory (AD&D 2e retroclone)

ANTI-WOKE

Myfarog (not sure as I haven't actually read it)

I recommend sticking to the Neutrals there!
MYFAROG is actual White Nationalist, which is another breed of Woke - they're just as touchy as the SJWs when it comes to Wrongthink.
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